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  1. Matthias

    The Chosen - Godly Truth or Dangerous Fiction?

    As we’ve agreed that Paul was acting under the inspiration of God, yes. [Using the concessions of their pagan philosophers was also a common practice among the later Greek Apologists.] Are the writers and producers - who acknowledge that they are presenting a fictionalized Jesus for the...
  2. Matthias

    The Chosen - Godly Truth or Dangerous Fiction?

    Should the apostles have used creative license to proclaim a fictionalized Jesus? Maybe “should” isn’t the right word. Would the apostles have used creative license to proclaim a fictionalized Jesus? Objection. Calls for speculation. Question withdrawn.
  3. Matthias

    The Chosen - Godly Truth or Dangerous Fiction?

    Yes. Would you agree that there is no creative license involved in the presentation of Jesus in scripture?
  4. Matthias

    The Chosen - Godly Truth or Dangerous Fiction?

    Elmer Gantry. That’s the fictional character I’m thinking of right now.
  5. Matthias

    The Chosen - Godly Truth or Dangerous Fiction?

    For starters, they weren’t proclaiming Jesus for the purpose of entertainment. What might they think about Christians 2000 years later offering people a fictionalized Jesus as entertainment? I guess we’ll find out when we meet them.
  6. Matthias

    The Chosen - Godly Truth or Dangerous Fiction?

    Christian criticism of The Chosen covers a lot of ground. Some complain that the program presents Jesus as only a man who has a God - Jesus being fictionalized as a unitarian. *gasp*
  7. Matthias

    The Chosen - Godly Truth or Dangerous Fiction?

    Thank you. I don’t advocate or endorse book burning. My meager claim to fame in the classroom was encouraging my students to read widely, deeply, thoughtfully and critically. There is a Jewish saying which I shared with my students. You’ve probably heard it yourself somewhere along the way -...
  8. Matthias

    The Chosen - Godly Truth or Dangerous Fiction?

    I watched The Passion of Christ and found myself in a rather uncomfortable conversation with Catholic relatives on my wife’s side of the family. The non-fictionalized Jesus is sufficient to get me thinking. Why put things in our minds which we know aren’t true? Why put things in the minds of...
  9. Matthias

    The Chosen - Godly Truth or Dangerous Fiction?

    I’m still trying to track down the Jenkins quote. It may or may not be accurate. Have you read any of the objections Christians have raised against program?
  10. Matthias

    The Chosen - Godly Truth or Dangerous Fiction?

    A non-fictionalized Jesus vs. a fictionalized Jesus. No one in scripture thought it necessary to present a fictionalized Jesus to their audience. Why is that?
  11. Matthias

    The Chosen - Godly Truth or Dangerous Fiction?

    The figure attributed to Jenkins is 95% of The Chosen is not found in the Bible.
  12. Matthias

    The Chosen - Godly Truth or Dangerous Fiction?

    I mentioned in the OP that I’ve only watched a portion of one episode.
  13. Matthias

    The Chosen - Godly Truth or Dangerous Fiction?

    No. That’s not the entertainment they’re offering their audience.
  14. Matthias

    The Chosen - Godly Truth or Dangerous Fiction?

    Yes, I’m willing to watch other forms of entertainment. But none of them involve presenting a fictionalized Jesus for entertainment.
  15. Matthias

    The Chosen - Godly Truth or Dangerous Fiction?

    “For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed … you put up with it well enough!” (2 Corinthians 11:4, NET) The ”one we proclaimed“ isn’t a fictionalized Jesus, for entertainment or any other purpose. Is a Jesus fictionalized for entertainment “another Jesus”...
  16. Matthias

    Church refugees

    A stand alone church without association with other churches begs the question, how many churches is Jesus the head of?
  17. Matthias

    Who is “the new Moses”?

    My assessment is that Moses typology is valid in explaining how Jesus is the new Moses, irrespective of what I or anyone else believes in regard to the separate issue of literal vs. ideal preexistence.
  18. Matthias

    Who is “the new Moses”?

    Please see the link I provided in post #38. There are many examples of typology in addition to Moses typology.
  19. Matthias

    Who is “the new Moses”?

    For my edification, do you know what notional / ideal preexistence is? What about Moses typology? Are you familiar with what that is?
  20. Matthias

    Who is “the new Moses”?

    Is Jesus identified as the prophet like Moses in the NT? ”Luke identifies Jesus as the prophet like Moses in Acts 3:22 more clearly than in any other text in Lk-Acts.“...