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“All scripture is inspired by God …” (2 Timothy 3:16) No?

Atheists. My personal experience with them has been that, by and large, they haven’t denied that Jesus ever existed. (They denied various aspects of what biblical and extra-biblical sources say about him.) Occasionally I encounter some who have denied that he ever really existed.

The organization is the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society. The Jehovah’s Witnesses. Good stuff.

Speculation. ”You are willing to go farther than I am.” ”I’m not willing to go as far as you are.” What is the solution to the stalemate?

A marvellous point of agreement that I want to publicly acknowledge. Earlier in our conversation I put forth Isaiah 44:24 as an example. There is an organization which says that we are both mistaken about the concept of agency being speculation in regard to the creation of the heavens and the...

You’ve said the HOW could be agency. We’ve both said that that is speculation in the case of the creation of the heavens and the earth.

You said that the text is ambiguous and that it is only speculation that the angels created the heavens and the earth. In the specific case of creation of the heavens and the earth, yes. Valid examples of agency. See the rest of the story. Yahweh says that he did it alone, by himself. That...

Again, agreed. You’re speculating on ambiguity. I’m grounding on Yahweh himself saying that he did it alone, by himself. That’s not a contradiction. It’s something which we can prove by testing it. “God said” is sufficient for me.

“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” (Genesis 1:1) Elohim, plural in form, singular in meaning. “In the beginning gods created the heavens and the earth.” Elohim, plural in form, plural in meaning.

I’m not speculating. I’m absolutely certain that Yahweh is the creator. Yahweh himself says that he is the creator.

To glorify the creator. Their existence is witness that there is a creator.