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My answer of “what” Jesus is from before the creation of the world is … … of no interest to you.

If he wasn’t speaking to himself, then our options are severely limited. Trinitarian scholarship recognizes this and suggests that God was speaking to his angelic court. See, for example, the trinitarian commentary in the NET. Genesis 1 God created alone, by himself, without the agency of...

Let’s revisit the proposition I asked you about. I’ll bold the last phrase and underline the key word to draw greater attention to it. God is the Father, Christ is the Word made flesh, and the Holy Spirit is both of them. The proposition isn’t “of both of them” but rather “is both of them”...

How do you know it isn’t occurring here when you don’t even know what it is? The only explanation I can think of is that you’ve already decided what is going on here and alternatives aren’t possible. In order to understand what Jewish monotheism is we have to understand what ideal preexistence...

See Jewish monotheism for the specifics. I’ll go back and look but I’m pretty sure I already mentioned ideal preexistence to you. P.S. I did. See post #123.

Elohim can mean more than one; can be plural in meaning. When it is, it’s always talking about pagan deities. 1 Kings 11:33 is a good example. Ashtoreth, Chemosh and Milcom are individually elohim (singular) “god or goddess” and collectively elohim (plural) “gods and goddess”). It’s never plural...

Strict Jewish unitary monotheism is my answer. (There’s no need to even mention the ******* when we stick with that.)

Some words are like that in Hebrew. Elohim is one of them, but not the only one. Menahem Mansoor wrote a popular two-volume textbook titled Biblical Hebrew Step-By-Step. In Volume 1 he addresses this in Lesson Twenty-two, “Dual Number”. In Section 2 he gives six examples of “Nouns with Plural...

That’s false. In regard to this forum, that’s false. Now you’re catching on. I have very little interest in discussing anything with you at this point.

No. Elohim, translated God, is always singular. No it doesn’t.

That’s right - God, singular. Trinitarianism is a form of monotheism.

I count at @theefaith as a friend. He’s “stuck in Catholicism” but he listens to me and to others. It’s becoming ever more clear to me that you will resort to bearing false witness against those who don’t agree with you. You’re beginning to lose my attention, which would be no great loss for...

Then the Holy Spirit isn’t the Father and the Holy Spirit isn’t the Son. Right? It’s a fundamental tenet of trinitarianism not to confuse the persons.

Aren’t you familiar with the Shield of the Trinity?

We are going in circles. You keep saying that I’m saying things that I haven’t said. That’s either a reading comprehension issue or an integrity issue. Repeated attempts on my part have convinced me that it’s not the former. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don’t. Some people, always; some people...

“Us” is plural, “God” isn’t.

I posted examples of a singular rendering and a plural rendering in English. Never have I said that the plural rendering is applicable or appropriate when the subject is the deity of the Bible. Gods (plural) = more than one God (or god) = polytheism. I’m beginning to question your integrity.

You don’t appear to know that elohim is singular or plural in meaning, depending on context. I see no need to when I’ve already responded to it on the forum.