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What does it look like when it’s translated plural? This trinitarian (@Johann) helpfully shows us (in his thread titled, Did Christians “invent” the Trinity?): “. HaShema - Deut. 6:4. Hear, O Israel: Jehovah (singular) our Gods (plural) [is] a unioned/unified Jehovah (singular).” Bold is mine.

“And David said to all the congregation, Now bless the LORD your God. And all the congregation blessed the LORD God of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the LORD, and the king.” (KJV)

The people worshipped God and the king. No.

Jesus isn’t a blasphemer. He is the Messiah, the Son of God. Jesus worships his God, not the Trinity.

Gods. Plural. God. Singular. It’s English.

Singular - God. Plural - gods. You didn’t post an English translation that rendered it plural, and for good reason - there aren’t any.

Thanks. I didn’t think a simple yes or no answer was likely, but I thought it possible. The proposition I asked about in post #253 isn’t trinitarianism. It doesn’t appear to me that you were able to recognize that it isn’t.

God is the Father, Christ is the Word made flesh, and the Holy Spirit is both of them. I don’t believe that. Do you? I’m just looking for a simple yes or no answer from you, if you feel you can.

It’s being taught as trinitarianism by someone on the forum who self-identifies as trinitarian. It isn’t what the doctrine of the Trinity teaches. A. God is the Father, Christ is the Word made flesh, and the Holy Spirit is both of them. B. God is the Father, Christ is the word made flesh...

For readers who may be wondering, here is what I - Jewish unitary monotheist, not a trinitarian - believe: God is the Father, Christ is the word made flesh, and the Holy Spirit is both of them.

That’s interesting. You know I’m not a trinitarian. Here’s what I believe: God is the Father, Christ is the word made flesh, and the Holy Spirit is both of them.

Has any trinitarian ever pointed out to you that “God is the Father, Christ is the Word made flesh, and the Holy Spirit is both of them” isn’t what trinitarianism teaches? “God is the Father, Christ is the Word made flesh, and the Holy Spirit is both of them“ isn’t the Trinity.

God is the Father, Christ is the Word made flesh, and the Holy Spirit is them both. @RLT63 do you recognize this as a valid description of the Trinity?

In post #85 I asked you to post English translations you use which render the Hebrew word plural in English. I think it’s reasonable for me to post English translations where the Hebrew word is rendered singular in English. “In the beginning …” (Genesis 1:1) Here’s a survey of 12: NASB, KJV...

The only God who may be worshipped is the Messiah’s God. Everything else is idols. Human beings may be, and are, worshipped. See, for example, 1 Chronicles 29:20.

In Hebrew, “God” is elohim. Which translation(s) do you use which render the Hebrew word plural in English? Please post a few for us. *** While we wait. Elohim is always plural in form. Elohim may be plural in meaning or singular in meaning. When elohim is used in reference to the one God...

Then translate it plural. The Bible says God (singular) created the heavens and the earth.

Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God. Kudos on the lower case l (cp. Psalm 110:1) but when Thomas saw Jesus he saw the Father - his God - in Jesus. There is no God besides the Messiah’s God. Everything else is idols.

The Apostles’ creed doesn’t say the Trinity created the heavens and the earth.

Thanks. There is no God besides the Messiah’s God. Everything else is idols.