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One of my best friends is a Mormon. I remember him telling me that. A case can be made for Hebrew but I don’t find it particularly strong. It strikes me as a sentimental argument. Abraham is the key figure, it seems to me, in that conversation. What was his native tongue? Akkadian? Aramaic...

That’s an eyebrow raiser. I’ve often heard it said that Hebrew was, or might have been, the universal language before the Tower of Babel. Maybe it was, but I doubt it. Scripture doesn’t elaborate on it or make an issue out of it.

Baptized by a fellow Jew, and not in the Roman Catholic Church. I’m told by @theefaith that the only real Christians are Roman Catholics. I’m also told by theefaith that Jesus himself was Roman Catholic. (Maybe he thinks John the Baptist was also Roman Catholic?) I’m not sure exactly how that...

* The forgotten Trinity *

Woof!

Yes. I also stress after in my conversations.

We get what we get from Rabbinical Judaism. It can be very colorful and imaginative at times. God casting lots is something I would not suggest, nor do I believe it to be the case. In a word, speculation.

Jesus is my brother.

It made them, all of them, Jewish. They remained Israelite and Hebrew.

The Messiah himself is the wisdom of God incarnate.

That’s not my philosophy. “That’s all bridge under the water now” is more along my line of thinking. We were talking about the children of Israel; his twelve sons. Jesus had an unspecified number of brothers and sisters in his immediate family. All of them were children of Mary.

They all came out of Egypt together. They were all gathered together at Mount Sinai. It wasn’t the tribe of Judah alone which was Jewish. Matthias replaced Judas Isacariot, restoring the number to twelve.

I was raised Protestant and was taught sola scriptura. I spent summers on my grandparents farm and saw God outside of scripture; in his creation. Many years later, I began reading Roman Catholic scholars. It was there that I found out when, where, why, how and by whom we came to have the...

You might find the linked article interesting - “Was Abraham Jewish? - from a Jewish source. https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2013020/jewish/Was-Abraham-Jewish.htm I had a polka tune (Lawrence Welk?) running through my mind as I read it. :)

Yes. So did Noah, to single out someone (a non-Jew) who lived before Abraham.

See above. They all had the same father. They didn’t all have the same mother. P.S. I’m sorry @farouk. I mistakenly thought theefaith’s post was addressed to me. I wouldn’t have responded to it until after you had if I hadn’t erred.

It’s not a prerequisite of kings that their mothers be queens. So even by your standard, Jesus is a Jew. So even by your standard, the tribe of Judah - present at the giving of the law at Mount Sinai - were Jews.

Then there were Jews before the giving of the law at Mount Sinai. If that be the case, it’s another stake in the heart of those who say the Jews came only from the tribe of Judah.

How did any of the New Testament writers know? The same way they did. 1. They spent time with Jesus. 2. The Father revealed to them that Jesus is the Messiah. 3. They knew Isaiah was speaking about the coming Messiah.

Matthew 8:14-17; Luke 22:35-38; John 12:37-41; Acts 8:26-35; Romans 10:11-21; 1 Peter 2:19-25.