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  1. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    The answer I was anticipating is 1. Jesus is 1 being. Human. If Jesus is a non-human being before becoming a human being then he is 2 beings.
  2. Matthias

    What is the rule of faith for Christians?

    Yes. In scripture it is called the Church of God and the Churches of God. Where have you been lately? I haven’t seen you around. Is all well with you?
  3. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Good answers or bad answers in common? ;)
  4. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    How many beings is Jesus?
  5. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    The deity of Jesus is his God and Father.
  6. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I think all translations have their pluses and minuses, their strengths and weakness. I primarily use NASB (my workhorse) but I like NABRE* for casual reading. I rotate Bibles from time to time, as that often stimulates my mind. Reading only one translation can dull my mind. I habitually consult...
  7. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Does anyone here remember Hank Hanegraaff, “The Bible Answer Man”? Well just I’m case anyone is wondering, I’m not him. (I had the thought over dinner - lunch - today that a particular member of the forum may perceive me that way.) I don’t have all the answers. There are things in scripture...
  8. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    He isn’t addressed by that name in scripture. That indicates to me that the name “Immanuel” is symbolic. Jesus (the anglicized rendering of his Hebrew name) is “God with us” or “God is with us”. Does this mean that Jesus is literally God himself? When I was a trinitarian I would have answered...
  9. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I left the Southern Baptist Church (and trinitarianism) in the early ‘80s. I seldom read or make use of the KJV. The language was appropriate for its time but is archaic now. People in the 21st century don’t speak like people living in the 17th century did. If someone insists on it in order to...
  10. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I’d like to tell you something. Just between you, me and the hat rack. Come a little closer; I won’t bite. * I haven’t spoken with a single person here and come away with the impression that he or she doesn’t care about the truth. Not one. You can call me blind. You can call me naive. You can...
  11. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    This has been a wild and woolly thread. One of the best I’ve been involved in for quite a while! My thanks to all for their contributions.
  12. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Yes. But he also commented on what he read. Right?
  13. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    If that is so, and if that is all they should do, then why could we not just sit home in our bathrobes and fuzzy slippers and listen to an audio Bible?
  14. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    So are you saying that “preachers and teachers” should read the Bible to us? Yes. It sounds to me like that’s only true if we turn ourselves into audio Bibles in our conversation with one another. Paul commended the Bereans. I understand that he did so because they listened to the message...
  15. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Amen. This comment caused me to stop and think. (Thank you for that.) If I adopt that posture then how will God work through others to help me? Does God give us “preachers and teachers”? If so, for what purpose?
  16. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    It shapes mine too. That’s good. Unfortunately, I can’t say the same about myself. I still occasionally find that I’m subconsciously holding a bias. Dialoging with others, or reading commentary on scripture, helps me to see that - every once in a while. It seems that whenever I allow myself...
  17. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Thank you for your very kind words. My personal philosophy on debating is that it is a lose-lose proposition for the debaters. When we take a debate posture we dig in our heels, harden our hearts, close our eyes and stop up our ears. We become invested in defeating our partner rather than...
  18. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    It appears to me that you’re reading Jesus into the text, not out of the text. “In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with God, and Jesus was God.” Is that what you see (or hear) when you read John 1:1?
  19. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    That’s an excellent presentation. What you’ve expressed here is precisely what I believe.
  20. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Thanks. I want to know what people believe and why they believe it. You provided that for me. I’m a mature believer but I still drink milk with my meal.