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Thanks. I don’t think it’s necessary for me to say it but - for the sake of some here - that’s similar to, yet not, what I see in the passage.

What is your commentary on the passage?

That’s right. That’s also one of the reasons, not the only reason, that I’m no longer a trinitarian.

btw, what you stated here is precisely what I believe about Jesus.

Trinitarianism teaches that Jesus is not a human person. Has the trinitarian clergy never told you that?

God. Who do you think they saw, if not God?

We also know, or should, that the Father is his Father and our Father, his God and our God. No one besides the Father is “his God and our God”. [“my God and your God,” if Jesus is the speaker.] In order have someone else we must remove Jesus from the equation.

Jesus is the Father’s logos (“word”) made flesh. When did that happen? Where did that happen? How did that happen? Why did that happen? Is this John’s way of saying what Matthew and Luke said in the birth narratives in their respective Gospels?

The same word which the Geneva Bible calls “it,” not “he”. John is speaking about the incarnation of the Father’s logos.

Is that what you see written in the Geneva Bible rendering of the prologue? You saw “he”? I saw “it”.

Remember @Johann, in trinitarian philosophy, Jesus is not a human person.

You don’t think you were begotten? (The act of a father.) You don’t think you were conceived? (The act of a mother.) You don’t think you’re a human person? You don’t think you’re created? You think biology is philosophy? You think scripture disagrees with biology?

Starting in the beginning. “In the beginning was that Word, and that Word was with God, and that Word was God. This same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by it, and without it was made nothing that was made. In it was life, and the life was that life was the light of men...

Similar (or even same) titles doesn’t make a deity. God and the Messiah share titles, with themselves* and with others - angels and humans. *There’s potentially that “How many selfs is God?” issue for trinitarians and binitarians.

Start with male and female.

A person who is begotten, a person who is conceived; Is a human person, a created person indeed.

Heterodoxy isn’t a dirty word.

Human life - a living human being - in the womb.

“And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son …” (Luke 1:31, NASB) The virgin Mary conceived Jesus in her womb (and gave birth to him). Why does the Creed say the Holy Spirit - not the Virgin Mary - conceived Jesus?

Christianity is Jewish.