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  1. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Yes. There is a primary sense and there is a secondary sense. Trinitarianism - are you or are you not a trinitarian? :) - understands Jesus to be God in a primary sense; literally. Jewish monotheism understands Jesus to be God in a secondary sense; figuratively.
  2. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    How many selfs is the Trinity?
  3. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    No. Remember, I’m not a trinitarian. I’m an ex-trinitarian. The quote is from a former trinitarian student of mine. It’s nothing more than a rationalization. A statement of unbelief (a human person couldn’t defeat Satan) followed by a statement of faith (only God himself could defeat Satan). I...
  4. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    For better or for worse, this is a segregated online community. Being or not being a trinitarian has certain consequences here. You made a comment recently to a non-trinitarian member about their status as a Christian. That caused me to ask if you are a trinitarian. Some trinitarians deny that...
  5. Matthias

    A man asked me are Christians good people?

    No. I’m secure in my Christian faith. The only Christian (or non-Christian, for that matter) here who can hurt me is me. I was speaking generically. All “Christian” discussion forums have Christians behaving as Christians should and Christians behaving as Christians shouldn’t. If it weren’t so...
  6. Matthias

    Church councils?

    Determination and perseverance, or so it seems to me. What do you think about the post-biblical Church councils?
  7. Matthias

    WHO IS GOD.................?

    That’s a trinitarian answer to the question. Two things are noteworthy about it for me: 1. Not all trinitarians give this answer. 2. Neither Jesus (a Jew), nor the apostles (who were Jews), nor the earliest Christians (who were Jews) give this answer in scripture.
  8. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I’m guessing now that you’d rather not say.
  9. Matthias

    "The word was a god"?

    There’s a lot of truth in that. Do you subscribe to the Apostles’ Creed?
  10. Matthias

    "The word was a god"?

    That’s right. Elohim. “God,” not “gods”. Not all trinitarians think so. I presume you’re aware of that.
  11. Matthias

    "The word was a god"?

    You’re paraphrasing, but that’s right. The question has always been, who is the “us” referring to? and - to your elohim question - does it mean that elohim (“God”) is plural in meaning?
  12. Matthias

    "The word was a god"?

    Elohim is always plural in form but may be either singular or plural in meaning depending on the context. When used in reference to Yahweh it is always singular in meaning. Yahweh is “God” (elohim, plural in form, singular in meaning). Yahweh isn’t “gods” (elohim, plural in form, plural in...
  13. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I don’t have one. I think I recall you either saying or implying that you aren’t, but I’m not certain.
  14. Matthias

    "The word was a god"?

    The assertion made by your source is usually denied by trinitarians. Do you agree with it?
  15. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Are you a trinitarian?
  16. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    The person I quoted is a former trinitarian student of mine. I preserved his anonymity simply because I haven’t obtained his permission to quote him. He was expressing his rationale; a rationale held by trinitarians but also by binitarians and some unitarians. Jesus wasn’t a human person in...
  17. Matthias

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    @Peterlag “A human person cannot have done what Jesus of Nazareth did. Only God himself could do that.” Anonymous
  18. Matthias

    to read Bible

    Well done. I hope that you’ll read through the Bible many times in the days of your life. May the God of the Messiah make them long and richly blessed. Do you read an English translation or a non-English translation of the Bible?
  19. Matthias

    Is Jesus God Himself or God the Son?

    I’ve read Augustine but I haven’t read as much Augustine as my Catholic family (I married into) and trinitarian friends (Catholic and Protestant) warrants. It’s on my bucket list of things to do. Thanks to the encouragement of a Catholic friend I made on these forums, I’ve been re-reading...
  20. Matthias

    Does Anyone Here Believe in The Trinity?

    A proverb. When you’re a guest in another man’s house don’t spit on his god and expect him to amen. The composition is mine, but I learned it from an encounter I had with a Jew.