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The Church mustn’t influence the state to kill people for their faith.

What is your question about the verse?

No.

By looking for people who hold the teaching and faith of the Messiah.

Who is God to me? The Father. Who is God to @theefaith?

You’ve clarified the picture for me since this post @heartwashed. What I see you presenting to me now is this: The Trinity is 1 self and 3 selfs, 3 YHWHs. Who is God to heartwashed? The Trinity; 1 self and 3 selfs, 3 YHWHs. Who is God to me? The Father; 1 self, 1 YHWH.

Not quite. The vowel pointings make important distinctions.

Here’s a general thought @theefaith: One of us (some would no doubt say, both of us) has accepted a counterfeit.

Only the High Priest of my faith.

Agreed.

I haven’t pledged allegiance to the state. Christians who do may well find themselves killing fellow Christians (and non-Christians) who have pledged their allegiance to different states. I’m required to obey the state unless or until it acts in a way which is contrary to the teaching and...

I wish I had known what you were going to say before I read it with my mouth full! I’ll be fine. My wife isn’t home. I have time to take care of it before she is. This is a serious point. I shouldn’t have laughed, and wouldn’t have, if I had been prepared for it. Jesus is a Jew. The Church...

Spoken Hebrew always has vowels. Written Hebrew sometimes has vowels, sometimes doesn’t have vowels. The written Hebrew biblical texts discussed in this thread have vowels. They’re as recognizable in Hebrew as they are in English for those who know how to read them.

Agreed. When someone sins against my God they need to repent. Upon repenting they will be forgiven.

People make their choices and reap what they sow. That the RCC has excluded me is of no concern to me. Is it your understanding that it excludes non-Catholic trinitarians? Though they have rebelled against the RCC and many of its believes and practices, they have, at least theoretically...

How can there be what is? I’m not sure I understand what you’re asking. Divine nature is more than possible. I think you mean by that, is Jesus deity. My answer is no. My answer is no. The origin of Jesus is in the womb of the his mother. My answer is yes.

I think your definition is too limited. I don’t have any problem with the thought that persons of your faith have been martyred but neither do I have any problem with the thought the persons of other faiths have been martyred. Persons of my faith have been martyred, whether they are recognized...

@theefaith this might sound strange Jesus is a Jew, not a Roman Catholic. He had / has it right. The faith was once and for all delivered to the saints in the 1st century. Deviating from it is a serious matter.

The head of the Church is the Messiah. The head of the Messiah is God. Otherwise, I’m in agreement with your setup. I’m not in agreement with your conclusion. Paul spoke in Acts 29 of savage wolves which would, and even were in his day, which would come into the church, not sparing the flock...

I’m under the new covenant, despite trinitarian insistence to the contrary.