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I don’t like playing that game but I’ll make a one-time exception for you. I’m not wrong. You’re wrong. What did the exercise accomplish? I didn’t learn anything new. Did you? I don’t think so. I haven’t changed my mind. Have you? I don’t think so. Where do we go from here?

Thanks. I thought that’s where you were going with it, started to say as much, but changed my mind. Your spiritual ancestors weren’t burning Jewish monotheists at the stake (loved your “steak” pun, btw) in 325 AD. That came later. I had the small picture in mind when I said let’s go back to...

I believe the human Jesus is functionally God, not literally God.

“Selling out to the man” is what the guards did. The alternative, even if they had seriously considered it, was death. “Peace is not to be purchased by the sacrifice of truth.” - John Calvin Well said. I want to note here that agreeing with someone about something doesn’t require, or even...

How many more times must I say it? Monotheism means one God. Let’s agree on it, once and for all. There’s no reason not to. Those who are observant are. The one God who is only one person isn’t a one God who is three persons. No. Yes. As I mentioned earlier, Jesus himself has a creed...

The Romans killed him. Not all Jews were opposed to Jesus (himself a Jew) and his messianic claim. Not even all in leadership positions were opposed to him. What he said didn’t go over well with the Jewish leadership which rejected him. Surprised? We shouldn’t be. They turned him over to the...

Thanks for the feedback. No, that’s not my issue with the Trinity. I believe the one God is the Messiah’s God. The Messiah’s God isn’t the Trinity. The Messiah’s God is only one person, the Father. There is no God besides the Messiah’s God. There’s my issue with the Trinity. Yes, but it...

That’s right. Christ himself is a Jewish monotheist, not a trinitarian. For philosophy, I refer our readers to Greek philosophy which supports the doctrine of the Trinity.

The Messiah’s faith is binding on his followers.

Monotheism = one God. Jewish monotheism - one person, the Father. The earliest Christians were Jewish monotheists. Like Jesus himself, their God is the Father and none other. I wish that there weren’t such a thing as trinitarian monotheism but there is. That’s right. That would be...

There’s a better than good probability that your spiritual ancestors wouldn’t allow me to eat said potato, at least not in their company.

Their faith is his faith. He is a Jewish monotheist. They are Jewish monotheists.

Jesus Christ is a Jewish monotheist, not a trinitarian. He always will be.

You know that I don’t. You’re returning again to the binding of your Church Councils. I can agree they are binding on trinitarians, but I’m not a trinitarian. I’m a Jewish monotheist.

Jewish monotheism is Christian monotheism. What Jewish monotheism isn’t is trinitarian monotheism.

Now you’re talking post-biblical history. Now we’re getting to the doctrine of the Trinity. Now the RCC gets the credit that it so richly deserves. Let’s go back to those days. What would your spiritual ancestors have done to me for not going along with their binding decree? In other words...

That faith is delivered in scripture, not at Nicaea and Chalcedon.

Take out the doctrine of the Trinity, which came centuries after biblical times - long after the 12 apostles were dead - and we would find ourselves much closer to agreement. You can’t do that, and I can’t abandon the Messiah’s faith to go where you are. The best we can do at present is engage...

No. It’s history. Your scholars and theologians kept a good record of it. It’s available for anyone who wants to see it to read it. The true Church should. Surely we can at least agree on that general principle.

Agreed.