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“It” has always referred to a thing, not a person, in the English language.

I’m not defending you. Your assault on the leaders of the Protestant Reformation and on those who followed them is on you.

Those who read my posts with an honest heart know your accusation is false. Nothing I or they say will convince you of that.

I have a decision to make here. I’ve decided to let you crucify the Protestant Reformation. I’m weary of defending trinitarians and trinitarianism against the ignorance of people like you. It’s time, in fact, past time, for trinitarians to do it themselves. You’re on the clock, Protestants.

I don’t think so either.

I understand. I’m not trying to change your mind but I truly find it stunning that you believe the Protestant Reformation was a massive “disrespect Jesus” movement.

Hoo boy. I shouldn’t have watched that Thriller video right before going to bed! (Liked it, though.) Another relaxing one - a longtime bedtime favorite - to chase the monsters out of my dreams.

Some soothing music before I turn in for the night. Maybe it will help me not to dream about the lunatic fringe!

I’m not sure what put me in the mood to listen to this, but the news of the day and the thread started yesterday on horror are pretty good candidates.

I’m a longtime fan of The Twilight Zone. I don’t know if you would count that or not, but that’s as close as I come to being a horror fan.

More on the NT writers from Father Fortman. ”They give us no formal or formulated doctrine of the Trinity, no explicit teaching that in one God there are three co-equal divine persons. But they do give us an elemental trinitarianism, the data from which such a formal doctrine of the Triune God...

“The Biblical witness to God, as we have seen, did not contain any formal or formulated doctrine of the Trinity, any explicit teaching that in one God there are three co-equal divine persons. Rather it contained data from which a doctrine of this kind could be formulated. And it would take three...

“No more than the Old Testament writers do the New Testament writers set forth a systematic doctrine about God. For them, too, there is only one God, the creator and lord of the universe; and He is the the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. He is the Heavenly Father, but more especially the...

Jesus himself says his God is one person but teaches his disciples that (his God and ?) their God is three persons. I don’t find that argument persuasive.

Eight hours later and I’m still surprised that you think the Geneva Bible is disrespectful of Jesus. I accept it, and acknowledge that you have every right to, but I’ve never come across anyone prior to you who felt that way about it. I’ve heard various arguments for and against the Geneva...

@theefaith I’m providing a link to an article that I think you would find interesting. The article is titled “Millennialism”. The article documents that millenarian views were the majority belief in the early church. That would seem to seal the deal for me, but the article contains a quote that...

The 1,000 years could be literal or could be figurative. If it’s literal then Jerusalem then Jerusalem should be literal. If it’s figurative then Jerusalem should be figurative. The stake in the ground is the statement in Luke that the kingdom never ends. I understand that to be literal. The...

You haven’t demonstrated that you have the capacity to care. What makes you think I can help you with that?

It isn’t what it looks like to you. I’m reconsidering trinitarianism. Your witness makes a strong case against it.

Okay. Thanks. If you’re going to take that position with the Geneva Bible then your going to have to take it with all English translations translated from Greek manuscripts prior to 1611 as disrespectful. Maybe that’s why the Roman Catholic Church fought against English translations of the...