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“It is impossible to document what we now call orthodoxy in the first two centuries of Christianity; heresy often appears more prominently, so much so that orthodoxy looks like a reaction to it. But we can document orthodoxy for all the centuries since then - in other words, for close to...

“Even among adherents of the Nicene orthodoxy an uncertainty still for a time prevailed respecting the doctrine of the third person of the Holy Trinity. Some held the Spirit to be an impersonal power or attribute of God; others, at farthest, would not go beyond the expressions of the Scriptures...

Jesus is still a Jew and his God was, is and always will be only one person, the Father. Okay. Okay. Personal, but not a third person in the Messiah’s religion.

See the power of other Jewish prophets.

See 1 Chronicles 29:20.

The angels are certainly part of creation but they were present when the world was created. That’s right. See Christ’s God. The Apostles’ Creed identifies the Father as the creator.

And what of the Old Testament? Also written by Jews. As a Roman Catholic, don’t you also accept other writings of Jews as canonical?

The God of the Jews wants all people - Jews and Gentiles alike - to be saved.

Yes, and the Church was a sect of Judaism; Jewish.

See those Jews who didn’t. The earliest Church was comprised almost exclusively with Jews who believed that “their brother Jesus” is the Messiah promised and raised up by his and their God.

What if all things were actually created by his God, the Father? (See the Apostles’ Creed.) “Glory be to the Three adorable persons of the Holy Trinity, now and forever.” Prayer to the Holy Trinity - Prayers - Catholic Online That sounds to me like part of a prayer that could be offered by...

John, like Peter, Paul and Jesus, is a Jew. His God, Peter’s God, Paul’s God, and Jesus’ God is the God of Israel. They are all in full agreement on the identity of their God. All power wasn’t given by God to God. All power was given by God to a particular Jew - Jesus of Nazareth. The Jew whom...

The angels were also present before the creation, but neither you nor I believe Jesus preexisted as an angel. Some unitarians would agree with that; other unitarians wouldn’t. I’m going to ask you to try to do something that is difficult. I don’t know if you can do it or not, but let’s try...

You’re offering me here trinitarian commentary on scripture written by Jews.

The first Christians were still Jews. Christianity is Jewish, in the beginning. It later separated from Judaism and, as Church history documents, gradually transitioned to the trinitarian faith.

”Was the transition from the personal monotheism of Israel to the tri-personal theism of Nicaea a legitimate development of Old Testament revelation? Christians affirm that it is, holding that Nicaea represents a fuller unfolding, not a distortion, of the self-disclosure of the God of Israel...

Just like Peter, Paul makes a distinction between God and Jesus Christ. Which came first, Christianity as a unitarian sect of Judaism or Christianity as a trinitarian religion separate from Judaism?

Christ is divine (i.e. godlike) but he himself has a God. That’s Judaism, not trinitarianism. Christianity began as a sect of Judaism. The religion of Jesus and the apostles is Judaism. The God of Judaism is only one person, the Father.

Jesus and the apostles are neither trinitarians nor Arians; they are Jews.

“of God, and of Jesus our Lord” = of the Father, and of the Son.