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  1. St. SteVen

    Perceptual Reality and Spiritual Understanding

    Wow! Awesome post, buddy. I'm practically speechless. (a rare occurrence) Yes! A ministry of encouragement does much better than a "ministry" of criticism. If we can under-gird young disciples along the path toward maturity, we are doing a very noble task. IMHO A pastor shared a very...
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    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    Thanks for your reply. And yes, I usually ignore you. (due to problems in our past communication) And to be clear, I agree with your points about the Bible, and I actually love the Bible. I use it every day; BUT I do NOT worship it. (as some seem to) Question for you: What would the Christian...
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    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    Good points, thanks. My concern is with those who claim the Bible is the ONLY way to hear from God. /
  4. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    The only one that I recall that was told to write something down was the Apostle John and his revelation. Although perhaps Moses was too, in reference to the law. But for most of history the common folk were illiterate. Teaching was mostly by oral traditions. The writing dates on the Gospels...
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    Perceptual Reality and Spiritual Understanding

    St. SteVen said: 1) How has your spiritual understanding been formed by your personal perceptions? (the upbringing lens) Right. I suppose most of us aren't even aware of it. Nor do we question it. Us vs. Them. St. SteVen said: 2) Do you accept, or reject the views of others with a different...
  6. St. SteVen

    Perceptual Reality and Spiritual Understanding

    Exactly. 1 Corinthians 3:4-6 NET For whenever someone says, “I am with Paul,” or “I am with Apollos,” are you not merely human?[a] 5 What is Apollos, really? Or what is Paul? Servants through whom you came to believe, and each of us in the ministry the Lord gave us.[b] 6 I planted,[c]...
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    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    I think having a Bible in print has crippled us from hearing from God directly. /
  8. St. SteVen

    Perceptual Reality and Spiritual Understanding

    Great post, thanks! Like you, I see the day-to-day miracles when I turn my problems over to God. But on occasion I have experienced bigger more involved miracles and divine appointments. Here's one which you may have seen earlier. Vision like an eagle I recall it was a Sunday evening...
  9. St. SteVen

    Perceptual Reality and Spiritual Understanding

    "... through a glass, darkly; but then face to face..." - 1 Corinthians 13:12 KJV This thread was inspired by a Podcast titled: The Smoke Show - The Heavenly Banquet (title linked - check it out) This is not a transcript, but some ideas were lifted from there. (disclaimer - LOL) Many years ago...
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    Leaving Room for Faith - why we don't know EVERYTHING

    Start reading at post #160 \
  11. St. SteVen

    Leaving Room for Faith - why we don't know EVERYTHING

    LOL Here's some use of white space you might appreciate. \
  12. St. SteVen

    Leaving Room for Faith - why we don't know EVERYTHING

    What's with the period? - LOL \
  13. St. SteVen

    The Character of God - Reader Poll

    Good question. This poll gives us a cross section of the participants views. The majority of participants saw God's character as Loving and Merciful. Followed by Compassionate. (only on less vote) Many wanted to add a different view than was provided by the poll. Other votes. Wrathful and...
  14. St. SteVen

    Christianity as a Closed System

    On occasion, I will ask the question: Did Jesus die to save you from God? \
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    Leaving Room for Faith - why we don't know EVERYTHING

    LOL Good question. I liked how @BarneyFife added a period (.) at the bottom of his posts to give the signature line more room. At least I assume that is why he does it. This is actually a common artistic touch used by professional artists. Adding a tiny bit of "white space" below the "work"...
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    Christianity as a Closed System

    You did me the favor of defining "preposterous". I see that I need to do you a favor by defining "closed system". closed system noun A physical system that does not interact with or receive input from other systems, especially one that obeys conservation laws. What were you saying about...
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    Leaving Room for Faith - why we don't know EVERYTHING

    At one time I was bothered by the fact that we don't really have ALL the answers. There was always a loose end somewhere. I chased the apologetics in every direction, but always came up short somewhere. And frankly, I don't remember the specifics, only the moment of my release from the tyranny...
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    Christianity as a Closed System

    As I have said often, "I was raised Protestant evangelical." --- A closed system. Which had an odd antithetical twist. You can't DO evangelism without talking to the "lost". (those outside the closed system) And only mature evangelicals were even allowed to do it, for fear you might be talked...
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    Theistic Agnosticism - The honesty to admit we don't know everything

    This term came up this morning in a discussion over coffee. I thought it worth discussing further. Being raised in the church, I was held in a bubble of "we have all the answers." Now that I am an adult, I realize the reason for that. We DIDN'T have all the questions. I know, I know... (who...