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  1. St. SteVen

    Did the Serpent deceive A&E by lying, or by telling the truth?

    Each day in the week of creation was measured by evening and morning. Which is odd, but... It seems that God worked the night shift. - LOL [
  2. St. SteVen

    Did the Serpent deceive A&E by lying, or by telling the truth?

    These are points we can agree on. Thanks. (although your math on the 1,000 years is off) I think the Fall brought spiritual death. A&E were created as physically mortal beings, not physically immortal. See Genesis 3:23. Many on the forum struggle to understand the two kinds of life and death...
  3. St. SteVen

    Did the Serpent deceive A&E by lying, or by telling the truth?

    The text doesn't support that she was alone. The Serpent did approach her though. (rather than Adam) And yes, that was strategic. Eve had heard about the tree from Adam. (second hand) It seems that he added the part about not touching. Genesis 1:14-15 NIV When the woman saw that the fruit of...
  4. St. SteVen

    Did the Serpent deceive A&E by lying, or by telling the truth?

    I agree. The encounter with the Serpent is telling though. If he really understood, he would have stepped in and done something to protect himself and his wife. That's a mystery. It seems that most Christian are still in the dark on the subject as well...
  5. St. SteVen

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    @Aunty Jane I think we are going in circles here. Thanks for your participation though. I'll give you the last word. [
  6. St. SteVen

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    Ecclesiastes Nine says, "in the realm of the dead, where you are going" That is another destination. Ecclesiastes 9:10 NIV Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor...
  7. St. SteVen

    Did the Serpent deceive A&E by lying, or by telling the truth?

    Agree. I question whether Adam understood the consequences. What was death to him? Like telling a toddler not to play in the road, or they will be killed. [
  8. St. SteVen

    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    Agree. Jesus didn't say they hadn't died. (in that scripture) He did say, "He is not the God of the dead". Why? In John eleven Jesus says, "whoever lives by believing in me will never die..." What does that mean? Luke 20:38 NIV He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for to him all...
  9. St. SteVen

    What sort of death did A&E die in the day they ate thereof?

    Are you familiar with Sheol? (the realm of the dead) [
  10. St. SteVen

    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    We need to answer the question about what Jesus meant. Whether it is TO HIM or not, they are ALL alive. How so? Luke 20:38 NIV He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for to him all are alive.” [
  11. St. SteVen

    Did the Serpent deceive A&E by lying, or by telling the truth?

    Agree. Which part was true? Which part was a lie? [
  12. St. SteVen

    What sort of death did A&E die in the day they ate thereof?

    We need to answer the question about what Jesus meant. Luke 20:38 NIV He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for to him all are alive.” [
  13. St. SteVen

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    The Word was with God. The Word was God. The Word became flesh. https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/is-the-logos-meaningful-or-meaningless-depends-on-your-view-of-logos.59271/ [
  14. St. SteVen

    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    Why do you put limitations on that? Did Jesus say SOME or ALL? [
  15. St. SteVen

    The Elect and Predestination - the unfortunate implications

    New topic: https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/did-the-serpent-deceive-a-e-by-lying-or-by-telling-the-truth.70029/ [
  16. St. SteVen

    What sort of death did A&E die in the day they ate thereof?

    Did they die in the day they ate thereof? (not physically) [
  17. St. SteVen

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    New topic: https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/did-the-serpent-deceive-a-e-by-lying-or-by-telling-the-truth.70029/ [
  18. St. SteVen

    What is the state of the dead in the afterlife?

    That's quite a range. Like Catholics and Baptists? [
  19. St. SteVen

    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    We will all die physically. What do you suppose Jesus was referring to? [