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It does not make that argument. Of course, you knew that when you wrote this. I don't understand that kind of dishonesty and self-deception. The rest of your post is nothing but an emotional and irrational rant that demonstrates that you aren't here to have real conversation with people. You...

That's an honest enough response. If you don't see it, you don't see it. Just don't refuse to see it, that's the key to being intellectually honest, with yourself. I'm going to assume that you failed to see the following and would very much like to know where you see a flaw in the argument...

Well, foreknowledge doesn't mean that God knows all. That's what the word omniscient means. Foreknowledge, as typically used, means that God has infallible foreknowledge of the future. I've now repeatedly posted an argument that demonstrates that such infallible foreknowledge would mean that we...

Which is why is it, in fact, a "wicked, evil, bad" thing, to use Taken's terminology. God is just! Therefore, the doctrine of predestination (and typically the doctrine of divine foreknowledge as well), as normally taught, is false.

If someone corrects you then adjust your course based on the new knowledge. People see what you do and, in this current cultural climate, defaulting to "he/she" is going to be interpreted as a bowing to political correctness. I matters. Enough said.

Please respond to the following formal argument.... T = You answer the telephone tomorrow at 9 am Yesterday God infallibly believed T. [Supposition of infallible foreknowledge] If E occurred in the past, it is now-necessary that E occurred then. [Principle of the Necessity of the Past] It is...

No one that I know of, or that I've ever encountered, believes that foreknowledge is causal. NO ONE! This objection is a classic, text book example of a straw man. Infallible foreknowledge is, however, incompatible with free will. The two are quite mutually exclusive... T = You answer the...

I had no idea that he was a staff member. By the way, if you're willing to hear some unsolicited advice... Don't give the left our language. The masculine pronoun is the proper pronoun to use in English when the actual gender is unknown. "He/She" is just a tacit acceptance of the false...

You really should. I've tried to explain why and I've tried to move away from this topic but you simple won't let it go! EVERY person that calls himself a Christian says this, Taken! That's just the entire point! Every Arminian, every Calvinist, every Catholic, every Lutheran, Presbyterian...

That's very interesting. I'll have to watch the movie now. Language just fascinates me. I actually like hearing someone speak in a language I don't know. It's complete gibberish to me but is as meaningful as can be to someone else. It feels almost like magic to me. As for me "gaslighting"...

So what's the problem then? I've never suggested that it was my right to forever hereafter bind you to some label I happen to use in reference to the doctrines you claim for yourself. On the contrary, I've said more than once that if I say something that is inaccurate then correct me. That's how...

Then what was the point of bring it up again?

Is the title of that movie what people are tacitly referring to when they accuse people of "gaslighting"?

....continued from previous post.... Both systems are predicated upon the page Greek notion that God cannot change in any way whatsoever. The term they use is "immutable". The bible not only uses this word but in three different places says that God does not change but it is speaking in...

You can clarify, can you not? Is it my place to look at the sky and determine what color I see? Is it my place to look at the birds swimming on a pond and decide which of them are ducks and which are geese? Can I not tell the difference between a horse, a cow, a deer or a beer? When I talk to...

To my knowledge, I have never done such a thing. It's a horrible figure of speech. Where does it come from? It gives you no clue at all what it could mean! This did not make sense to me. It feels like an argument against labels. If so, like I told you before, you cannot successfully avoid...

It's an easy enough error to make. If you'll take the time to reread our exchange, I think you'll find that I've been nothing but directly responsive to what you yourself have said and have posted nothing but actual arguments and/or made claims that I am prepared to support both biblically and...

If by this you mean that election refers to a "corporate election", for want of a better term, then I agree. Predestination throughout the bible has to do with groups of people and with things that God Himself will do. This is the typical thing that Arminians and others that believe similar...

The entire thread is still right here for the entire world to read.

Yes, I know that. I am CONSTANTLY telling people that "Saying it doesn't make it so." I am 100% capable and willing to defend what I say with actual arguments. Are you? If so, we can continue. Otherwise, what are you talking about? No one has suggested otherwise. This is a lie. I've accused...