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Explain why Paul lost his gifts. List a video of people talking in UNKNOWN tongues being INDEPENDENTLY translated by others not known to them

The Word that became Flesh taught Paul that the gifts would cease. Pauls gift ceased Perfect is completed Scripture

Good to see someone else quoting Paul, recently I have started to accept that Paul is actually the Apostle that teaches us how to be saved and how to lead our lives until then.

Please continue Doug, you do a good job of correctly differentiating the teachings of Paul from Peter. I too also accept now that the Body of Christ as taught by Paul did not start at Pentecost.

Pre-trib for me but always prepared to listen to why others think differently.

How far from Murray Bridge are you AOG ? I see you too are an SA boy

I don't have an issue with a Pastor alone earning a fair wage for a fair days work - do not muzzle the ox !!

Isn't that the pre-trib rapture as taught by Paul ?

Eph 1:13 is straight forward, if you believe otherwise, why ? Hear then trust then believe equals sealed with the Spirit. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of...

Since you are quoting Paul he also taught that the tongues etc would cease which was confirmed when he lost his abilities. Please link a verifiable video that demonstrates an independent person translating unknown tongues (not known earthly languages) in a Church setting today.

*************The Holy Spirit had me operate in tongues, interpretation of tongues,****** If you were in a room of Australian Aboriginals who do not understand English would you be able to speak the Gospel to them in their language ?

******Eph 1:13 correct for today***** Yes, that makes sense

That's interesting S.I.H., is there evidence that you can supply of those gifts ? eg can you load a video where in front of witnesses you turn dirt into gold ?

What gifts do you believe you have and if any what proof confirms them ?

Jesus teaches how to receive the Spirit and He did that via His Apostles. Here's what I've recently noticed. Acts 2:38 teaches repent etc to receive the Spirit yet on some occasions Acts 8:14-18 Peter & John also had to lay hands and pray. Then much later Eph 1:13 Paul teaches that believe the...

Agreed Bladerunner, that's how I also understand it.

I believe that Jesus/Christ in some way/form existed before Genesis 1:1/John 1:1.

There are a lot of well meaning opinions around but I am just trying to find out what is relevant today based on what The Bible teaches and not what we feel or think, are there verses that you believe teach how we receive the Spirit today ?

Neither do I have any methods QT, The Bible teaches us what we must know so that's why I was asking you for where you believe it teaches how we receive the Spirit, what we feel is irrelevant if not confirmed by the Bible. I did some online reading and here is the conflict, Paul teaches that the...

If scripture teaches the method then who are we to contradict it ? Are there methods in Scripture that you are aware of that applies to you & I ?