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Do not ask God for forgiveness

Odd statement to make.
This is true. The Scripture does not say that we should ask for forgiveness. It tells us to confess, repent and forsake sin, Then, according to 1 John 1:9, "If we confess our sin, God is faithful and just to forgive us our sin and cleanse us from all unrighteousness". Merely asking forgiveness without repentance and forsaking of sin means nothing and has no moral value to God.
 

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And he has repented? I am not nearly as old as he and if I said and did things simply ten years ago I would openly renounce my errors. As a Christian, admitting fault and asking forgiveness is more important to me than anything. The devil wears the clothing of a sheep to devour the lost.
And you use a pic of Hillary??? One of the most WICKED persons on Earth!
 
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This is true. The Scripture does not say that we should ask for forgiveness. It tells us to confess, repent and forsake sin, Then, according to 1 John 1:9, "If we confess our sin, God is faithful and just to forgive us our sin and cleanse us from all unrighteousness". Merely asking forgiveness without repentance and forsaking of sin means nothing and has no moral value to God.


Caveat…. “IF” we confess our Sin.
Sin … singular.
Confession TO WHOM?
Lord God.
How?
Open your mouth and speak your word.
What SIN?
Having “HAD” unbelief.
Repent… meaning to Be Sorry FOR … ?
Having “HAD” unbelief.
IF “Sorry”…
Then WHAT?
Repentance…
Meaning… Having “Changed” Belief…
FROM… unbelief IN the Lord God…
TO… Belief IN the Lord God.

God Knows a mans True Belief.
How?
God Teaches man… to Verify what he Hears.
God Verifies…
God “Searches” a mans “Heart”.
For What?
For the mans “Confession” … the mans TRUTH IN his Heart.
Why?
Because a natural man’s “spirit”, IS his “natural Truth IN his MIND ?
No.
In the mans Heart ?
Yes.

The man Knows … IF his own Confession, His own Truth, IS From his “Mind” or From his “Heart”… and So Also does God Know.

IS man taught to Believe “IN Man”?
No.

Is there a negative Heavenly consequence For man to NOT believe in man?
No

Is it a SIN For man to Not Believe IN man?
No

Is there A Negative Consequence…
For a A man to TRESPASS ( lie, cheat, steal, hurt, falsely accuse, murder ) Against another man?
Yes

Will such a man, TRESPASSING, Against another man…AFFECT the Trespasser's one on one Relationship OF Salvation “with the Lord God”?
No.
* Negatively Affect such mans Relationship with the Lord God?
No.
* Negatively Affect such man “REWARDS” From God, the man “Could of received, but will not”?
Yes

Men routinely… intentionally (with malice) AND unintentionally (without malice)…
TRESPASS (lie, cheat, steal, hurt, invade, falsely accuse, murder) other men.

The “Unintentional, act of a man Against another man… WILL Find the Trespasser…
Asking the one he Trespassed Against..FOR “Forgiveness”…

Routinely… verbally Saying…
“I’m sorry…l beg your pardon, Please forgive me, Please Excuse me., etc.”

Men do not Know All things.
“Men express their Trespasses, their sorry, their asking for Forgiveness of their Trespass verbally”.

Some men Will “Forgive”
Some men will “NOT” forgive.

The Lord God teaches… men who Forgive their Trespasser's, So Also Shall The Lord God “Forgive that mans Trespasses, Against other men…(whether or not men forgive them).

Does “Forgiveness of a Trespasses” Between men… Mean, NO Negative consequence For a committed Trespass?
No.

Does “Forgiveness” from the Lord God (For Unbelief TO Belief) Between a Man AND God
Mean, No Negative Consequences for that man?
No.

An individual man…Can Absolutely establish a one on one Forever Relationship With the Lord God… and Forever that mans Soul Shall be Saved, and that mans body changed and Raised In Glory ( perfectly Sinless).
AND
That same man, “Lose out” on Receiving Rewards From God….
Because of the mans “Unrepentant” And “Continual Trespassing Against “Other men”.

WHY?
Because… a Man “WHO Has” a one on one Relationship With the Lord God…
IS by design …
A “Representative” of The Lord God. Before other men.

When “other men” See, Observe., A Trespasser, liar, cheat, thief “claiming” to be “a Disciple”, “Son of God”… WHILE “following the WAYS in Contrast to The Lord Gods Ways of Good and upstanding”…

It casts a poor “Reflection” on The Lord God…
And especially…gives PAUSE for younger Generations… (and particularly parents own children)…just Learning ABOUT the Lord God… TO “Follow Along in the Hypocrisy”.

Glory to God,
Taken
 

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All you Left- WIng liberals compare Trump to Hitler. Hitler was responsible for most of WW2. if you add all the numbers, 70 million died. Did Trump murder even one person. He is trying to stop wars. He is trying to thwart this Globalist movement ( with all its corrupt ideologies). People like Klaus Schwab, Obama, Clinton, Biden , Soros and even Gates are preparing us all for the Antichrist's One World Government. You're on the wrong side. They all worked hard to sell you this Globalist package disguised as Global Warming/ Climate Change. You bought into it. I suppose you are okay with abortions, transgender education, socialism, open borders. If so, you are deceived and someone who got in line to get your vax and will soon get in line to take the mark of the Beast too. ???
Hello my friend . You are gonna have to add to that list of those who are leading us toward Antichrists one world govt .
THEY all do now my friend . just from whence and from whom
do you think this ecumenical interafaith abraham peace accords religious t olerance came from .
A hint , The very elites of such an order who ride high over the kings of this world .
Trump does its bidding too . There simply is no hope in man .
It is time for an all out exodus from their smoke and mirrors hall of fame . They do nothing but cleverly
deceive t his people .
There is no hope in man . HOPE IN GOD , IN HIS CHRIST and get anyone you know
far away from anything and anyone who has any part in this ecumenical merger .
Which pretty much means most all of even the protestant realm as well .
The RCC is long gone and her daughter narina prostestlina IS as wicked as her mother .
PS , n arina prostestantlina. nar realm prostentant ville . Its all tanked now .
The evangelical that came to save us from the so called liberal progressive utopia
DOES HER WILL . Never have i seen a delusion on a scale like the one i see today .
And the one common ground thing they have in common
is they beleive they now follow Love and GOD . its gonna take everything , NOT IN THE LAMBS b ook of life DOWN .
We stand now and contend for the truth now , while time remains to do so .
 
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Some people... they see only right and left among others. There is a whole other axis they miss.

There will not be any guessing my place right or left rightly while I can still point out that this country is facing a lot of trouble, and Trump will only make things worse, while some are blinded to that, so much that when everything falls apart they will still think he had nothing to do with that.
 

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Some people... they see only right and left among others. There is a whole other axis they miss.

There will not be any guessing my place right or left rightly while I can still point out that this country is facing a lot of trouble, and Trump will only make things worse, while some are blinded to that, so much that when everything falls apart they will still think he had nothing to do with that.
and some do all to focus on common ground . which is the deadliest of all as mass unequal yoking means a big fall on the way .
I have a real simple idea .
Time to abandon all hopes in the earthen
and put all hopes in The heavenly , IN GOD , IN HIS CHRIST and get in them bibles to learn .
Pretty simple indeed .
 

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Some people... they see only right and left among others. There is a whole other axis they miss.

There will not be any guessing my place right or left rightly while I can still point out that this country is facing a lot of trouble, and Trump will only make things worse, while some are blinded to that, so much that when everything falls apart they will still think he had nothing to do with that.
#1 - IMPORTANT = I am not a MAGA Trumper.

#2 - IMPORTANT = the LEFT is cursed as they have denounced almost every aspect of God's laws.

#3 - IMPORTANT = the LEFT have been violating the US Constitution every chance they get.
The LEFT are guilty of Treason and declared 'War' on the US Constitution and the RIGHT by ushering an Illegal Invasion thru Violation of the US Constitution and Law.

#4 - IMPORTANT = Trump has HELPED and he has also HURT = thus it is IMPORTANT to keep the President and all of our Gov in Prayer.

#5 - MOST IMPORTANT = The LEFT has embraced Homosexuality, Pedophilia and Islam/Sharia Law as they are waiting to rise up, overthrow, imprison those on the RIGHT.

JESUS is the RIGHT Hand of GOD


And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of sorrows.

9“Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. 10And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
 
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#1 - IMPORTANT = I am not a MAGA Trumper.

#2 - IMPORTANT = the LEFT is cursed as they have denounced almost every aspect of God's laws.

#3 - IMPORTANT = the LEFT have been violating the US Constitution every chance they get.
The LEFT are guilty of Treason and declared 'War' on the US Constitution and the RIGHT by ushering an Illegal Invasion thru Violation of the US Constitution and Law.

#4 - IMPORTANT = Trump has HELPED and he has also HURT = thus it is IMPORTANT to keep the President and all of our Gov in Prayer.

#5 - MOST IMPORTANT = The LEFT has embraced Homosexuality, Pedophilia and Islam/Sharia Law as they are waiting to rise up, overthrow, imprison those on the RIGHT.

JESUS is the RIGHT Hand of GOD


And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of sorrows.

9“Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. 10And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
actually number five is important
but NOT THE MOST important thing .
Number six is
And that is this , BOTH SIDES are being ruled by one who long long ago tempted and decieved eve .
BOTH SIDES are also under the INFLUENCE of this ecumeincal anti christ false peace n safety merger .
BOTH sides are co helpers in different ways TO THE SAME agenda .
THIS agenda .
And this agenda has long been at work . THE MYSTERY OF INQUITY , that which is of anti christ .
AND ITS GONNA MERGE THEM ALL UNDER A LIE that all will soon see as the only means TO ATTAIN peace in safety n the world .
DID YOU SEE what nentanyahu said .
THEY ALL IN ON IT . the abraham peace accords that so many in the nar camp PIN on trump
ACTUALLY CAME FROM THE LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE vatican and united religoins and UN and etc .
ITS ALL a sham . all of it a delusion .
And if we take real good notice to all this hot mess we now see
And take notice that teh same solution of abraham peace accords
WE HAD SEEN exactly WHO and what IS ABOUT TO RISE and come in and c apture BOTH SIDES
WITH A SOLUTION as though it be of GOD himself and they all GONNA HEED IT . and it AINT GOD . IT AINT GOD .
IT THE SON OF PERDITOIN .
 
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#1 - IMPORTANT = I am not a MAGA Trumper.

#2 - IMPORTANT = the LEFT is cursed as they have denounced almost every aspect of God's laws.

#3 - IMPORTANT = the LEFT have been violating the US Constitution every chance they get.
The LEFT are guilty of Treason and declared 'War' on the US Constitution and the RIGHT by ushering an Illegal Invasion thru Violation of the US Constitution and Law.

#4 - IMPORTANT = Trump has HELPED and he has also HURT = thus it is IMPORTANT to keep the President and all of our Gov in Prayer.

#5 - MOST IMPORTANT = The LEFT has embraced Homosexuality, Pedophilia and Islam/Sharia Law as they are waiting to rise up, overthrow, imprison those on the RIGHT.

JESUS is the RIGHT Hand of GOD


And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of sorrows.

9“Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. 10And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

What you call the left is nothing united, many separate movements having hardly anything to do with each other get lumped in the terminology as the left. I can recognize this without being among any if those getting termed together as the left.

I seek being obedient to God's commandments. Do you really? But the state is not God. Though godly values are important, Trump is not all there and has poor grasp relative to us generally of much of reality, and he is totally self-serving, and would approach totalitarianism even doing this while we are watching. He sides with fascist states and is hurting all the alliances that the US had kept up until his administration. And his environmental policies is ruining the environment, and climate change is accelerate. There will be disaster from his legacy.

Don't count on the constitution staying the same. Trump does not honor it.

Yes, it would be evil coming from the state in any case. It would have been better to keep all our freedom and live responsibly ourselves.
 
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What you call the left is nothing united, many separate movements having hardly anything to do with each other get lumped in the terminology as the left. I can recognize this without being among any if those getting termed together as the left.

I seek being obedient to God's commandments. Do you really? But the state is not God. Though godly values are important, Trump is not all there and has poor grasp relative to us generally of much of reality, and he is totally self-serving, and would approach totalitarianism even doing this while we are watching. He sides with fascist states and is hurting all the alliances that the US had kept up until his administration. And his environmental policies is ruining the environment, and climate change is accelerate. There will be disaster from his legacy.

Don't count on the constitution staying the same. Trump does not honor it.

Yes, it would be evil coming from the state in any case. It would have been better to keep all our freedom and live responsibly ourselves.
The US Constitution is the only LAW by which the USA can continue, as it is based on the Holy Scriptures.

The 'Left' are desperately trying to undermine it on every level because it is a reflection of God's wisdom for governments to live by.

The 'Right' have fallen but not to the same level of depravity as the 'Left' = thus JESUS separating the two.

This does NOT mean that a person can be SAVED by political positioning = absolutely NOT

Therefore GOD Alone Saves as HE searches the hearts of every man = John 3:16-21

The, very soon, Mark of the Beast will be put into Law = all who take it will be condemned with no allowance for forgiveness
 

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The US Constitution is the only LAW by which the USA can continue, as it is based on the Holy Scriptures.

The 'Left' are desperately trying to undermine it on every level because it is a reflection of God's wisdom for governments to live by.

The 'Right' have fallen but not to the same level of depravity as the 'Left' = thus JESUS separating the two.

This does NOT mean that a person can be SAVED by political positioning = absolutely NOT

Therefore GOD Alone Saves as HE searches the hearts of every man = John 3:16-21

The, very soon, Mark of the Beast will be put into Law = all who take it will be condemned with no allowance for forgiveness
The law of what that which is of anti christ will consider HATE CRIME and a threat to the survival of earth .
And do i need to explain that what its laws , its digital enforced AI led laws
will consider as hate , as terrorism . If ya guessed anything and anyone who does not
conform to what it calleth INCLUSIVE . and beleive me what it considers inclusive , IS ABOMINATION to THE HOLY GOD .
And now a word .
And i beheld , and power was given unto beast
And who does the beast declare war against . If ya said the saints , AGAIN you would b e correct .
ITs long been a war my friend . But in this last hour it all peaks and a powerful DIGITAL AI LED system
Wherein , lest one has the mark , HE NO BUY HE NO SELL . OH its all coming in my friend .
But dont you fear it or them . JESUS HAS ALWAYS HAD HIS SHEEP . EVEN in prison and even in death . HE IS WITH HIS OWN .
OUR END , thanks b e TO HIM , IS REAL GOOD .
But if we want to weep , let it not be for us , for the saints .
WEEP for all who b ought and loved a lie . Cause as we have seen t hroughout history and even in the bible .
Saints have suffered at the hands of men . Some even b eing lit , alive , ON FIRE .
NOW if that is allowed to come upon the saints . WEEP for them who bought and loved a lie .
Cause HOW MUCH SORER a punishments awaits all who rejected the love of the truth and b ought the delusion .
OH its much w orse my friend . There is something far worse than a man can do and is allowed to do to the sheep
That cometh on all WHO DENIED JESUS . SECOND DEATH .
 

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The US Constitution is the only LAW by which the USA can continue, as it is based on the Holy Scriptures.

The 'Left' are desperately trying to undermine it on every level because it is a reflection of God's wisdom for governments to live by.

The 'Right' have fallen but not to the same level of depravity as the 'Left' = thus JESUS separating the two.

This does NOT mean that a person can be SAVED by political positioning = absolutely NOT

Therefore GOD Alone Saves as HE searches the hearts of every man = John 3:16-21

The, very soon, Mark of the Beast will be put into Law = all who take it will be condemned with no allowance for forgiveness
And HOW . this is a very important question .
And HOW did GOD choose to save the world .
By the preaching of the gospel of JESUS CHRIST to save those WHO BELEIVE .
WHAT has been determined BY GOD , man cannot undo and t ry and make the road to GOD real BRAOD and full of UNBELEIF .
 
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The US Constitution is the only LAW by which the USA can continue, as it is based on the Holy Scriptures.

The 'Left' are desperately trying to undermine it on every level because it is a reflection of God's wisdom for governments to live by.

The 'Right' have fallen but not to the same level of depravity as the 'Left' = thus JESUS separating the two.

This does NOT mean that a person can be SAVED by political positioning = absolutely NOT

Therefore GOD Alone Saves as HE searches the hearts of every man = John 3:16-21

The, very soon, Mark of the Beast will be put into Law = all who take it will be condemned with no allowance for forgiveness
Now before anyone , NOT SAYING YOU MY FRIEND , tries to blame GOD .
Well lets see WHY folks get sent a s trong delusion .
THEY REJECTED . THEY REJECTED the LOVE OF THE TRUTH whereby THEY COULD BE SAVED .
Oh yes , no ma tter what these ecumeincal incliusivists
t ry and do and or say , HEED NOT a word outta their lips . THEY CALL GOD A LIAR .
now that might sound a wee bit harsh .
SO lets just let JOHN who wrote the most about LOVE
have a word in his letter .
HE who BELEIVES NOT the testimony that GOD gave of the SON
CALLS GOD A LIAR . notice john didnt say as these inclusivians say
and say WELL ALL RELGIONS serve the same GOD and that we all coming to him differently .
that THEY serve the SAME GOD we do . NOPE .
I can prove that .
IF one serves THE SAME GOD I DO , THEY WOULD HAVE BELIEVED AND SERVED HIS CHRIST as I DO .
NOW anyone who rejects CHRIST , IS NOT serving THE SAME GOD I DO .
IN fact allow me to say WHAT paul told to aggripa that JESUS had told him .
Delivering you from the people , that be jews , and gentiles
UNTO whom NOW I SEND THEE . TO OPEN THEIR EYES
TO bring them out of the darkness and power of satan .
YEAH . Lets read some acts c hapter twenty six . AND when we do notice THEM WORDS are IN RED .
THEMS JESUS OWN WORDS . so are these .
YE are of your father the devil , JESUS told the unbelieving jews . WHO cliamed THEY DID KNOW GOD
and that HE was THEIR FATHER . ONLY , that aint what JESUS tells them .
OH YES . DID i not warn us , did i not tell us , THIS SHEEP IS A STICKLER TO TRUTH . EVERY WORD OF GOD IS TRUTH
THUS every WORD OF JESUS IS TRUTH . real simple for me my friend . GOD IS TRUE , its man YA gotta test .
 

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Now before anyone , NOT SAYING YOU MY FRIEND , tries to blame GOD .
Well lets see WHY folks get sent a s trong delusion .
THEY REJECTED . THEY REJECTED the LOVE OF THE TRUTH whereby THEY COULD BE SAVED .
Oh yes , no ma tter what these ecumeincal incliusivists
t ry and do and or say , HEED NOT a word outta their lips . THEY CALL GOD A LIAR .
now that might sound a wee bit harsh .
SO lets just let JOHN who wrote the most about LOVE
have a word in his letter .
HE who BELEIVES NOT the testimony that GOD gave of the SON
CALLS GOD A LIAR . notice john didnt say as these inclusivians say
and say WELL ALL RELGIONS serve the same GOD and that we all coming to him differently .
that THEY serve the SAME GOD we do . NOPE .
I can prove that .
IF one serves THE SAME GOD I DO , THEY WOULD HAVE BELIEVED AND SERVED HIS CHRIST as I DO .
NOW anyone who rejects CHRIST , IS NOT serving THE SAME GOD I DO .
IN fact allow me to say WHAT paul told to aggripa that JESUS had told him .
Delivering you from the people , that be jews , and gentiles
UNTO whom NOW I SEND THEE . TO OPEN THEIR EYES
TO bring them out of the darkness and power of satan .
YEAH . Lets read some acts c hapter twenty six . AND when we do notice THEM WORDS are IN RED .
THEMS JESUS OWN WORDS . so are these .
YE are of your father the devil , JESUS told the unbelieving jews . WHO cliamed THEY DID KNOW GOD
and that HE was THEIR FATHER . ONLY , that aint what JESUS tells them .
OH YES . DID i not warn us , did i not tell us , THIS SHEEP IS A STICKLER TO TRUTH . EVERY WORD OF GOD IS TRUTH
THUS every WORD OF JESUS IS TRUTH . real simple for me my friend . GOD IS TRUE , its man YA gotta test .
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And HOW . this is a very important question .
And HOW did GOD choose to save the world .
By the preaching of the gospel of JESUS CHRIST to save those WHO BELEIVE .
WHAT has been determined BY GOD , man cannot undo and t ry and make the road to GOD real BRAOD and full of UNBELEIF .
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Good to see someone else quoting Paul, recently I have started to accept that Paul is actually the Apostle that teaches us how to be saved and how to lead our lives until then.
All the apostels did . We do have MORE of the writings of paul . But if you remain in the scriptures
you will see they all did . That they do not contradict one another either .