ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
There is no such thing as "conditional forgiveness" in Christ. Those who have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ via a forensic directive. The unconditional forgiveness abides continually. If we abide it is there; if we sin the spirit will work to turn us to our advocate with the father to restore us to the fellowship of that abiding unconditional forgiveness.
Simple. Your philosophy makes no sense.
It's not that my philosophy does nto make sense, the issue is that you don't believe what the Bible teaches.
Being IN Christ is not a "forensic directive." If it was a "forensic directive" then the warnings of Scripture would be emtpy of meaning.
God won't be mocked and the Scripture means what it says and it does not matter how much rhetoric people use to deny the plain truth.
YOU WILL reap what you sow.
Gal 6:7 Be not deceived;
God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but
he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
Gal 6:9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for
in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
You teach that you can sow to the flesh and still reap eternal life because you are have "forensically" put on Christ. This "loss of fellowship" while "remaining justified" is a message of death to those whom buy into it.
Why on earth would Paul give this warning????
Eph 5:3
But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
Eph 5:4
Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
Eph 5:5
For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Eph 5:6
Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Eph 5:7
Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
Or this one by Peter???
2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward,
not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2Pe 3:11
Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
2Pe 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things,
be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
What would be the point of Peter making that statement?
Then why would he go on and give this warning about those who twist Paul's writings?
2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
2Pe 3:16
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
2Pe 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before,
beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
2Pe 3:18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
You have bought into the "error of the wicked" and your words attempt to allure others into following you.
Why would Peter warn believers to "beware lest they be led astray and fall" ?????
Why would the writer of thr Hebrews say this????
Heb 3:8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
Heb 3:9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
Heb 3:10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
Heb 3:11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)
Heb 3:12
Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
Heb 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day;
lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
Heb 3:14
For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
It is not a done deal. IF is a conditional statement.
Why would Paul give this warning???
Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Rom 11:22
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
What do you do with that?
Come on, wake up! You are deceiving yourself.
If God cut off the natural branches due to rebellion do you honestly think He won't do that to a professing Christian???
Selected proof texting of scriptures will not work at the judgment. You might be able to soothe your mind and conscience here in this life but you won't fool God.
God will not be mocked.