(1) You’ve Been LIED To About Why Ukraine War Began

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atpollard

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On the other hand we have the West trying to kill millions of people with bio weapons in labs all around the world.
1968 Hong Kong Flu (H3N2) outbreak originates in Hong Kong
1976 HIV/AIDS outbreak originates in Democratic Republic of Congo
1997 Avian influenza (strain H5N1) outbreak originates in Hong Kong
2003 SARS outbreak originates in China
2012 MERS-CoV outbreak originates in Saudi Arabia
2019 COVID-19 (SARS-CoV-2) outbreak originates in China

Yup, sure looks like EUROPE and NORTH AMERICA are operating LOTS of biological weapon research labs to develop bio weapons. Asia must just be “unlucky”. :rolleyes:
 

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This article is from Zimbabwe.
I don't know if it's left or right leaning.
I posted what I posted above, before I found this article.
Make of it what you will.
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Risks Posed By Worldwide U.S. Funded Biolabs Cause Jitters Around The Globe - NewZimbabwe.com


Risks Posed By Worldwide U.S. Funded Biolabs Cause Jitters Around The Globe

21st March 2022

STRONG evidence has emerged that the United States embassy in Ukraine deleted documents which implicated the US for funding a series of laboratory facilities for the production of biological weapons in that country.

Such revelations vindicate China which last year stridently made suggestions that the conduct by US of secret biological and chemical laboratories could be blamed for the outbreak of Covid-19 virus.

Evidence pointed out that the US had hundreds of these facilities at home, military installations and abroad. According to information available, Covid-19-like diseases had previously broken out near the facilities, and indeed that there were poor security measures at some of the places, making accidental leaks possible.

Now the crisis in Ukraine has brought back the issue into sharp relief, once again.

Only now, the US appears to be holding the smoking gun – and the world must hold it to account.

It has emerged that Ukraine stored dangerous pathogens at laboratories designated for cooperative research and transfer to the US.

Labs in Ukraine have reportedly been operating on the command of the US Department of Defense and the US invested over US$200 million in them.

Subsequently, they have run a number of projects of dangerous biological weapons. One of them, the UP-4 project, studies the possibility of the spread of avian viruses through migrating birds.
 
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I prefer the WEST to lose, simply because they are promoting great evil things coming onto the world now, and I pray their evil plans God thwarts. Why would God bless the western powers seeing how wicked and evil they have become, they and the people have completely rejected HIM. I expect judgement after judgement to come against America until it is destroyed now.

Well I take it you and I haven't rejected him as well as many here. America will be judged soon enough! I believe America is being judged now! But as Russia has a habit of enslaving and killing those who protest against their actions, the West is still better. We still have a strong presence of believers, and thatmay be th eonly reason why God has not unleashed harsher judgment.
 

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Yes, you wont hear the whole truth coming from a government propaganda story designed to stir up your feelings to go along with whatever message they want you to believe. You might hear partial truth from one or the other sides in any conflict. I absolutely do not believe much of anything coming out from the MSM or our government ministry of truth, long years of continual half truths and lies should tell you they don't want you to know the truth, because, their father is the father of all lies.

And still they kept arguing with HIM, even after what HE said to them here,
John 8
39 They answered and said to Him, “Abraham is our father.”

Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. 41 You do the deeds of your father.”

Then they said to Him, “We were not born of fornication; we have one Father—God.”

42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me.

43 Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word.

44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.

45 But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me.


46 Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? 47 He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.”

You cannot expect perverse liars to know or believe the truth, as they are not of God. Jesus called these people liars.

48 Then the Jews answered and said to Him, “Do we not say rightly that You are a Samaritan and have a demon?”

49 Jesus answered, “I do not have a demon; but I honor My Father, and you dishonor Me. 50 And I do not seek My own glory; there is One who seeks and judges. 51 Most assuredly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word he shall never see death.”

52 Then the Jews said to Him, “Now we know that You have a demon! Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and You say, ‘If anyone keeps My word he shall never taste death.’ 53 Are You greater than our father Abraham, who is dead? And the prophets are dead. Who do You make Yourself out to be?”

54 Jesus answered, “If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you say that He is your God. 55 Yet you have not known Him, but I know Him. And if I say, ‘I do not know Him,’ I shall be a liar like you; but I do know Him and keep His word. 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.”

57 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”

58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”

59 Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

Understanding the above is understanding!

The "I Am" who is Jesus Christ, has been and still is around today. He has sent His Holy Spirit with His words and since He is the Word of God, the words we get in our spirit from His Holy Spirit are the words of God and they have truth in them. As for people (all of us), who battle with the dark spiritual forces in this world, the only way to get the truth is to listen to Him and what He has to say to us. The "Good News" is that the Word of God we preach (Jesus Christ speaking to us) is found near us, even in our hearts and sometimes in our mouth, since the Holy Spirit talks to our spirit. But who seeks Him and tries to listen to Him? Do we even tell people about Him, or are we spending our time trying to tell people about our thinking. As for me, my thinking is that I need to listen to Him more, and so my advice to others is the same advice I give to me - "We need to seek Him and His voice more", that is how we get the truth. You don't find the truth in this world!

That does mean we don't get information from this world, but Paul wrote something about taking all thought captive to Jesus Christ. The Lord was taking to me yesterday about how all people are right in their own mind, and how that means that all people's thoughts are selfish. That the results in lies coming from people's mouth in order that their selfish interests might be fulfilled. Yet ultimately it is nor their (all people's) interests that will be fulfilled but rather He explained that His (God's) interests which will be fulfilled, simply because He is still God and the heavens and the earth are still His. He is still King of kings and Lord or lords, but we still lack understanding.

Again - understanding is understanding that He is God and is alive and active. So He explains that He is the "I AM", which we don't understand because we don't talk to Him by faith (that belief that He is there with us). As for talking to Him about this war, do you not hear Him tell you personally the things like you read in the Bible. That these things must happen. Not to concern yourself too much with wars and rumors of wars? He also talks about how it is good to care about people, because He does. Still, what is a person supposed to do? The answer is plain - talk to Him and do what He asks you to do, that's what.