69,195 reasons I am NOT a christian Zionist

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"These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue,

and hands that shed innocent blood,

An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."
Proverbs 6:16-19

As of 12 November 2025, over 69,185 Palestinians and 1,983 Israelis have been reported killed in the Gaza war, according to the Gaza Health Ministry and Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The Palestinian death toll has surpassed 60,000 according to the Gaza Health Ministry, which noted that women and children make up about half of the dead. By early September 2025, the Palestinian death toll had reached 64,231, with the ministry confirming the deaths of around 400 individuals previously presumed missing.

The Gaza Health Ministry's figures are considered reliable by U.N. agencies and many independent experts, though Israel disputes them without providing its own comprehensive toll. Scholars estimate that 80% of Palestinians killed are civilians, and a study by the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) found that 70% of verified Palestinian fatalities in residential buildings were women and children.

In contrast, Israeli authorities reported that Hamas-led militants killed approximately 1,200 people, mostly civilians, in their attack on southern Israel on October 7, 2023. The disparity in casualties has been attributed to factors such as Israel's use of defensive systems like the Iron Dome, bomb shelters, and early warning systems, while Palestinian civilians in Gaza lack comparable protective infrastructure.

The conflict has also resulted in significant casualties among humanitarian and media personnel, including 179 UNRWA employees and 248 journalists or media workers. The daily death rate in Gaza has been described as higher than in any other major 21st-century conflict, with Oxfam reporting an average of over 250 deaths per day in early 2024. Human rights organizations have accused Israel of committing genocide and apartheid, citing the scale of civilian casualties and systematic destruction of infrastructure.

 
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"These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue,

and hands that shed innocent blood,

An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."
Proverbs 6:16-19

As of 12 November 2025, over 69,185 Palestinians and 1,983 Israelis have been reported killed in the Gaza war, according to the Gaza Health Ministry and Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The Palestinian death toll has surpassed 60,000 according to the Gaza Health Ministry, which noted that women and children make up about half of the dead. By early September 2025, the Palestinian death toll had reached 64,231, with the ministry confirming the deaths of around 400 individuals previously presumed missing.

The Gaza Health Ministry's figures are considered reliable by U.N. agencies and many independent experts, though Israel disputes them without providing its own comprehensive toll. Scholars estimate that 80% of Palestinians killed are civilians, and a study by the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) found that 70% of verified Palestinian fatalities in residential buildings were women and children.

In contrast, Israeli authorities reported that Hamas-led militants killed approximately 1,200 people, mostly civilians, in their attack on southern Israel on October 7, 2023. The disparity in casualties has been attributed to factors such as Israel's use of defensive systems like the Iron Dome, bomb shelters, and early warning systems, while Palestinian civilians in Gaza lack comparable protective infrastructure.

The conflict has also resulted in significant casualties among humanitarian and media personnel, including 179 UNRWA employees and 248 journalists or media workers. The daily death rate in Gaza has been described as higher than in any other major 21st-century conflict, with Oxfam reporting an average of over 250 deaths per day in early 2024. Human rights organizations have accused Israel of committing genocide and apartheid, citing the scale of civilian casualties and systematic destruction of infrastructure.

A sad but worthy post. The young lady in the video truly knows her God.
 

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and hands that shed innocent blood,

Israel defending themselves from the threat if being destroyed by moslems is not shedding innocent blood.

The moslems have been threatening to kill all the Jews for centuries so their cause is righteous and is backed by the Lord Jesus

Those who are against the Jews are cursed as they will soon find out as they go south when they die someday
 

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"These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue,

and hands that shed innocent blood,

An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."
Proverbs 6:16-19
Well you got Pro 6 correct.
But Who clearly brought it all on ! Get that ! 2 wrongs do not make a right.

Like who attacked in the most gutless way that one could !

Just on the issue of who attacked ! all else is proof that such was totaly wrong to attack the Jews in fact !
They were totaly wrong from the start in fact and still wrong !

So who ever supports them is guilty of Terrorism !

Israel has everyt right to protect themselves from such Terrorist ! regardless.

The UN is clearly an abomination run by who ? they are a Criminal unelected body that truly serves who ? Themselves and clearly Anti-Christ in fact, who can say that they are not !

If they never attacked the Jews ? their would no be one issue made ? They brought it all on themselves in fact ! So do not give the likes of such the time of day ! they have reaped what they sowed in fact ! How stupid of them !

The UN Human Rights is of Satan ! The Jews had the right to not be attacked in the first place ! so who goes and Idolises the one who clearly started it all and not to mention clearly only wanted to kill all Jews ! Like come on, grow up ! They are clearly of a Death Cult who has no regards anyone in fact ! not their own, no one !
So who wants the likes of such on your door ? But the Socialist in the West are clearly bringing in radical nuts like that in droves ! Why ? well they are clearly Anti-Christ ! Evil !
 
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I see that you are against Zion ?

Biblical Zion ? do you have an issue with that ?

Sure the Jew claming to be of Zion may not be worthy of Zion in fact ! for if they were worthy, would they know the Jesus Christ is the One ! I am sure anyone who is worthy of Biblical Zion would be a Christian in fact !

But then as you say regards Christian Zionist = so called Biblical Zion ? I agree with you in that issue.
Such people are clearly not Saved, if they idolise Jews claiming to be Biblical Zion.
For how would a Jew be worthy of Biblical Zion ! if such is not truly born again. such a one is an abomination to Jesus in fact ! so how can such be worthy of Biblical Zion !
 

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Where to begin. First of all, I really dislike the term "Christion Zionist". It's a contrived term that is often used as a pejorative, but I digress. I will offer you ten inconvenient truths:

1. The Gaza Health Ministry is controlled by Hamas, so the number of reported casualties is not reliable.

2. The UN has always been biased against Israel, and they just parrot the numbers from the Gaza Health Ministry. Again, not reliable.

3. There's been zero outside verification to confirm the actual number of civilian casualties.

4. The Gaza Health Ministry makes no distinction between civilians and combatant deaths. Just because someone is under the age of 18 doesn't mean they can't be a combatant, as Hamas has been known to recruit minors.

5. According to the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics, Gaza's population has increased from 1.9 million in 2015 to 2.41 million in 2026. That's a 20–25% increase over the decade. Those statics are incompatible with a mass genocide. Populations don't go up during a genocide; they go down.

6. There are 2.1 million Israeli Palestinians that make up 21% of Israel's population. They are able to serve in everything from Israel's government to military. So, how is that apartheid? Guess how many Jews are in Gaza? Zero, because they would be killed.

7. Israel has provided humanitarian aid to Gaza in the form of food, medicine, and shelter. They have provided medical support and medical evacuations for the people in Gaza. They have repaired infrastructure, water pipelines, and communications. They supply Israel with water, electricity, and fuel. Gaza is not self-sufficient and would not be able to function if Israel permanently halted all water, electricity, and aid that it provides. The continual flow of aid and support is inconsistent with the actions to eliminate an entire populace.

8. Israel has a track record of trying to avoid of minimize civilian causalities. They have given advanced warning of an attack by sending text messages, dropping leaflets, and using media and social media, all to their own detriment. They use precision-guided weapons, smaller munitions, and inert munitions to minimize damage to nearby civilian structures. They have planned their attacks for times of day when there are few civilians nearby and have even aborted attacks due to too many civilians in an area.

9. Hamas likes civilian casualties. It has been well documented that Hamas intentionally fire rockets around civilian buildings such as schools and hospitals. For example, there is evidence that Hamas built a tunnel network beneath Al-Shifa Hospital, stored weapons there, and used parts of the hospital.

10. This is all a propaganda war. Israel's enemies know they can never defeat Israel militarily, but they can defeat Israel in a propaganda war. They know Westerners are sensitive to civilian casualties and will eat it up. Congratulations, you fell for the slick propaganda disguised as empathy.
 
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"These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue,

and hands that shed innocent blood,

An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."
Proverbs 6:16-19

As of 12 November 2025, over 69,185 Palestinians and 1,983 Israelis have been reported killed in the Gaza war, according to the Gaza Health Ministry and Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The Palestinian death toll has surpassed 60,000 according to the Gaza Health Ministry, which noted that women and children make up about half of the dead. By early September 2025, the Palestinian death toll had reached 64,231, with the ministry confirming the deaths of around 400 individuals previously presumed missing.

The Gaza Health Ministry's figures are considered reliable by U.N. agencies and many independent experts, though Israel disputes them without providing its own comprehensive toll. Scholars estimate that 80% of Palestinians killed are civilians, and a study by the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) found that 70% of verified Palestinian fatalities in residential buildings were women and children.

In contrast, Israeli authorities reported that Hamas-led militants killed approximately 1,200 people, mostly civilians, in their attack on southern Israel on October 7, 2023. The disparity in casualties has been attributed to factors such as Israel's use of defensive systems like the Iron Dome, bomb shelters, and early warning systems, while Palestinian civilians in Gaza lack comparable protective infrastructure.

The conflict has also resulted in significant casualties among humanitarian and media personnel, including 179 UNRWA employees and 248 journalists or media workers. The daily death rate in Gaza has been described as higher than in any other major 21st-century conflict, with Oxfam reporting an average of over 250 deaths per day in early 2024. Human rights organizations have accused Israel of committing genocide and apartheid, citing the scale of civilian casualties and systematic destruction of infrastructure.

No activity nor replies in 9 months since the original post reveals this was posted by a troll bot sent here by Satan to disparage Israel. Most likely a Mohammedan.
 

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"These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue,

and hands that shed innocent blood,

An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."
Proverbs 6:16-19

As of 12 November 2025, over 69,185 Palestinians and 1,983 Israelis have been reported killed in the Gaza war, according to the Gaza Health Ministry and Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The Palestinian death toll has surpassed 60,000 according to the Gaza Health Ministry, which noted that women and children make up about half of the dead. By early September 2025, the Palestinian death toll had reached 64,231, with the ministry confirming the deaths of around 400 individuals previously presumed missing.

The Gaza Health Ministry's figures are considered reliable by U.N. agencies and many independent experts, though Israel disputes them without providing its own comprehensive toll. Scholars estimate that 80% of Palestinians killed are civilians, and a study by the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) found that 70% of verified Palestinian fatalities in residential buildings were women and children.

In contrast, Israeli authorities reported that Hamas-led militants killed approximately 1,200 people, mostly civilians, in their attack on southern Israel on October 7, 2023. The disparity in casualties has been attributed to factors such as Israel's use of defensive systems like the Iron Dome, bomb shelters, and early warning systems, while Palestinian civilians in Gaza lack comparable protective infrastructure.

The conflict has also resulted in significant casualties among humanitarian and media personnel, including 179 UNRWA employees and 248 journalists or media workers. The daily death rate in Gaza has been described as higher than in any other major 21st-century conflict, with Oxfam reporting an average of over 250 deaths per day in early 2024. Human rights organizations have accused Israel of committing genocide and apartheid, citing the scale of civilian casualties and systematic destruction of infrastructure.

I guess you support hamas and the radical Islamic groups that murder Jews and caused the conflict in the first place. When terrorists murder the Jews no one is offended. When the jews defend themselves the whole world is enraged. Easy to see this is not based on logic or reason but rather is under the influence of the wicked one who wants to see Israel cast into the sea.