70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

[covenantee]

A False "Preterist" fairy tale, as you change the very context of scripture to suit your 70AD preterist needs

(The Future Consummation)

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Merriam-Webster
Definition of consummation

1: the act of consummating the consummation of a contract by mutual signature specifically : the consummating of a marriage
2: the ultimate end

Daniel's AOD (Even Until The Consummation) "Future" (The Ultimate End)

Daniel 9:27KJV
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Jesus' entire first coming occurred prior to 70 AD.

Therefore, Jesus' entire first coming was "A False "Preterist" fairy tale", right?

 

[Truth7t7]

Jesus' entire first coming occurred prior to 70 AD.

Therefore, Jesus' entire first coming was "A False "Preterist" fairy tale", right?

Jesus first coming had absolutely nothing to do with Daniel 9:24-27, as you falsely believe and teach that the "He" is Jesus Christ "Wrong", "Jesus doesn't make abominations" as you belueve

The 70weeks of Daniel are "Future" unfulfilled

Jesus Is The Lord

(The Future Consummation)

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Merriam-Webster
Definition of consummation

1: the act of consummating the consummation of a contract by mutual signature specifically : the consummating of a marriage
2: the ultimate end

Daniel's AOD (Even Until The Consummation) "Future" (The Ultimate End)

Daniel 9:27KJV
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 

[covenantee]

you falsely believe and teach that the "He" is Jesus Christ

Who is "He"?

You falsely believe and teach that Merriam-Webster wrote Daniel 9:27.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Jesus first coming had absolutely nothing to do with Daniel 9:24-27, as you falsely believe

Saying that is like saying that Jesus was not crucified. You can't possibly be serious.

Daniel 9:26 “And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined

Since you deny that the above happened in relation to Jesus's first coming, do you say the same about the following verse...

Isaiah 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment, And who will declare His generation? For He was cut off from the land of the living; For the transgressions of My people He was stricken.

 

[Truth7t7]

Who is "He"?

You falsely believe and teach that Merriam-Webster wrote Daniel 9:27.

The scripture below Daniel 12:1-4 shows (The Time Of The End) simple, clear, before your eyes

Daniel 12:1 clearly shows the time of great tribulation, never seen nor will be seen again, a parallel reading of Matthew 24:21

The verse also shows (The End) in final judgement as the book of life is open (Every One That Shall Be Written In The Book)

Daniel 12:2 shows the last day resurrection of all that have lived, and the final judgment to eternal life for the righteous and eternal damnation for the unsaved wicked, this is a parallel reading of John 5:28-29

Daniel 12:4 shows Daniel is instructed to seal up the book of Daniel until the time of (The End) "Future Events" unfulfilled, and this doesn't represent the "Preterist" fairy tale claims that the events took place in 70AD Jerusalem's destruction by Roman Armies

Jesus Is The Lord

Daniel 12:1-4KJ
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

 

[covenantee]

The scripture below Daniel 12:1-4 shows (The Time Of The End) simple, clear, before your eyes

Daniel 12:1 clearly shows the time of great tribulation, never seen nor will be seen again, a parallel reading of Matthew 24:21

The verse also shows (The End) in final judgement as the book of life is open (Every One That Shall Be Written In The Book)

Daniel 12:2 shows the last day resurrection of all that have lived, and the final judgment to eternal life for the righteous and eternal damnation for the unsaved wicked, this is a parallel reading of John 5:28-29

Daniel 12:4 shows Daniel is instructed to seal up the book of Daniel until the time of (The End) "Future Events" unfulfilled, and this doesn't represent the "Preterist" fairy tale claims that the events took place in 70AD Jerusalem's destruction by Roman Armies

Jesus Is The Lord

Daniel 12:1-4KJ
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

You believe that "He" is The Antichrist.

But you're afraid to admit it.

 

[Truth7t7]

Saying that is like saying that Jesus was not crucified. You can't possibly be serious.

Daniel 9:26 “And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined

Since you deny that the above happened in relation to Jesus's first coming, do you say the same about the following verse...

Isaiah 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment, And who will declare His generation? For He was cut off from the land of the living; For the transgressions of My people He was stricken.

(Thy People) (Thy Holy City)

You give complete disregard to the fact that Daniel 9:24 is speaking to a future specific people and place on earth being saved by the already finished work on Calvary, it's not speaking to the world about Jesus Christ or Calvary, "Diversion"

The Remnant Elect Jew = (Thy People) Jerusalem = (Thy Holy City) Seen In Daniel 9:24 below

Daniel 9:24KJV
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

You conveniently gave complete disregard to Romans 11:25-26 below "Why"?

It's speaking about the blindness of the "Future" (Remnant Jew) being removed when the "Future" fulness of the gentiles takes place in Jerusalem for 42 months, and it didnt take place in 70AD

Romans 11:25-26KJV
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Revelation 11:2KJV
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months

You conveniently have given complete disregard to my claims of Daniel 9:27 seen below "Why"?

(EVEN UNTIL THE CONSUMMATION)

"Daniel's AOD Is Future" and the bad guy causing the Abomination and Desolation will be present on earth to the "Consummation" The Ultimate End

"Future" Events Unfulfilled

Matthew 24:15KJV
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

This "Future" evil figure (The Beast) will be present on earth making (Abomination & Desolation) to the (Consummation) or (The Ultimate End) "Future" Event(s) Unfulfilled

(The Future Consummation)

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Merriam-Webster
Definition of consummation

1: the act of consummating the consummation of a contract by mutual signature specifically : the consummating of a marriage
2: the ultimate end

Daniel's AOD (Even Until The Consummation) "Future" (The End)

Daniel 9:27KJV
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 

[Truth7t7]

Saying that is like saying that Jesus was not crucified. You can't possibly be serious.

Daniel 9:26 “And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined

Since you deny that the above happened in relation to Jesus's first coming, do you say the same about the following verse...

Isaiah 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment, And who will declare His generation? For He was cut off from the land of the living; For the transgressions of My people He was stricken.

Do you believe the scripture below represents the same event in parallel teachings that took place in 70AD when Roman Armies destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple?

If your answer is no please explain?

Luke 21:24KJV
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Revelation 11:2KJV
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Do you believe the scripture below represents the same event in parallel teachings that took place in 70AD when Roman Armies destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple?

If your answer is no please explain?

Luke 21:24KJV
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Revelation 11:2KJV
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

No, I do not. I've already explained this to you before. You seem to have no ability to remember anything I say to you. I told you that the temple of God referenced there has to be the church because no future physical temple could possibly be the temple of God. And I told you that in the book of Revelation, the holy city is the new heavenly Jerusalem, which symbolically represents "the bride, the Lamb's wife" (Revelation 21:9-10) which is the church. So, you're missing the symbolism in Revelation 11:2. When two verses have similarities it does not automatically mean they are taking about the same event. Do you understand that? For example, Daniel 7:13-14 refers to Jesus coming with the clouds of heaven, as does Matthew 24:30, but the former passages is about His ascension while the latter passage is about His second coming.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

(Thy People) (Thy Holy City)

You give complete disregard to the fact that Daniel 9:24 is speaking to a future specific people and place on earth being saved by the already finished work on Calvary, it's not speaking to the world about Jesus Christ or Calvary, "Diversion"

I'm very tired of your extreme childishness. You accuse me of diversion while you are diverting attention away from the fact that you didn't answer my question. So, answer it.

Daniel 9:26 “And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined

Since you deny that the above happened in relation to Jesus's first coming, do you say the same about the following verse?

Isaiah 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment, And who will declare His generation? For He was cut off from the land of the living; For the transgressions of My people He was stricken.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You believe that "He" is The Antichrist.

But you're afraid to admit it.

The dispensationalist interpretation of Daniel 9:27 that he follows after is quite possibly the worst interpretation of any verse in all of scripture. Attributing a verse about Jesus Christ to an imaginary Antichrist is about as bad as it gets. It's just completely unbelievable.

 

[Truth7t7]

No, I do not. I've already explained this to you before. You seem to have no ability to remember anything I say to you. I told you that the temple of God referenced there has to be the church because no future physical temple could possibly be the temple of God. And I told you that in the book of Revelation, the holy city is the new heavenly Jerusalem, which symbolically represents "the bride, the Lamb's wife" (Revelation 21:9-10) which is the church. So, you're missing the symbolism in Revelation 11:2. When two verses have similarities it does not automatically mean they are taking about the same event. Do you understand that? For example, Daniel 7:13-14 refers to Jesus coming with the clouds of heaven, as does Matthew 24:30, but the former passages is about His ascension while the latter passage is about His second coming.

Thanks for the response, I Disagree

Luke 21:24 & Revelation 11:2 is the same "Future " event that will take place on this earth in a literal city named Jerusalem in a literal country named Israel, it will take place over a literal 42 months

Luke 21:24KJV
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Revelation 11:2KJV
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Thanks for the response, I Disagree

You're welcome. We will likely always disagree. So be it. No sense in having the exact same argument over and over again. Time to move on from this.

 

[Truth7t7]

You're welcome. We will likely always disagree. So be it. No sense in having the exact same argument over and over again. Time to move on from this.

The very same generation that witnesses Jerusalem being trodden down will be the very same generation that will be eye witnesses of the Lord's literal, visible, second coming in the heavens, these are "Future" events unfulfilled, and that seen below in scripture didn't take place in a 70AD Jerusalem with Roman armies in destruction

When will the Church on this earth look up and see Jesus Christ their redemption returning in the heavens?

"FUTURE LITERAL EVENTS UNFULFILLED"

Luke 21:24-28KJV
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The very same generation that witnesses Jerusalem being trodden down will be the very same generation that will be eye witnesses of the Lord's literal, visible, second coming in the heavens, these are "Future" events unfulfilled, and they didn't take place in a 70AD Jerusalem with Roman armies in destruction

When will the Church on this earth look up and see Jesus Christ their redemption returning in the heavens?

"FUTURE UNFULFILLED"

Luke 21:24-28KJV
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

So, I guess agreeing to disagree is not something you're interested in. You don't need to tell me that Luke 21:25-28 refers to the future when I have said the same many times. The times of the Gentiles during which Jerusalem had no temple and has been trampled on by Gentiles followed what happened in 70 AD and Jesus will return once the times of the Gentiles is complete.

What is your understanding of the temple of God in Revelation 11:1? Some future physical temple?

Revelation 11:1 Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there.