Lizbeth
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I agree with your first paragraph, that we should be careful of judging Israel and that God is judge of His people. I see Israel's government as having a duty to protect its people and nation....and as Paul wrote about governments of this world, they are God's ministers in a way, in the sense of executing His judgment, and they do not bear the sword for nothing. This reminds me of how He used Israel to judge the Canaanites once their sins had come to the full. And the fullness of their sins appear to have been fully exposed on Oct. 7 with the heinous and cruel things they did to Israelis and their children. But I think it is like a merry-go-round of judgment.....Israel was having that idolatrous festival the day that Hamas invaded. The only way off that horrible merry-go-round of judgment for both sides, is in and through Christ.A daily true horror story, I have no idea about God's judgement regarding the Israeli violence in Gaza, I only know that these things are foretold and chose to be a bystander how things will evolve without judgement or choosing sides, watching the horror. God has unfinished business with Israel and I better not touch it how He is going to handle Israel. However we do know several things from Scripture about unfulfilled prophecies.
Zach 12:2 “Behold, I am about to make Jerusalem a cup of staggering to all the surrounding peoples. The siege of Jerusalem will also be against Judah.
Zach 12:3 On that day I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the peoples. All who lift it will surely hurt themselves. And all the nations of the earth will gather against it.
If I have to take the world all literal it will mean that eventually even the USA will turn against Israel.
The Coming Day of the LORD
Zach 14:1 Behold, a day is coming for the LORD, when the spoil taken from you will be divided in your midst.
Zach 14:2 For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city shall be taken and the houses plundered and the women raped. Half of the city shall go out into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zach 14:3 Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations as when he fights on a day of battle.
Zach 14:4 On that day his feet shall stand on the Mount of Olives that lies before Jerusalem on the east, and the Mount of Olives shall be split in two from east to west by a very wide valley, so that one half of the Mount shall move northward, and the other half southward.
Zach 14:5 And you shall flee to the valley of my mountains, for the valley of the mountains shall reach to Azal. And you shall flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.
Zach 14:6 On that day there shall be no light, cold, or frost.
As far as I know Mount of Olives hasn't split into 2 parts, thus Zach 14 speaks about Jesus return.
Mount of Olives is most interesting, Jesus will return on the exact same place as He ascended to Heaven
Acts 1:12 Then they returned to Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is near Jerusalem, a Sabbath day's journey away.
But those Zechariah prophecies already came to pass in 70AD with the destruction of Jerusalem. Jesus did return to them in His wrath....He "visited" them in His wrath, the wrath of the Lamb, and He provided a way of safety and escape through the valley for those faithful, mostly Jewish faithful believers who had not succumbed to the apostasy. Jerusalem and the Temple had become a truly horrible and abominable mess of apostasy by then, involved in idol worship and rites associated with that. The Roman army eventually came against it, and that army was composed of men from all the nations in its vast empire at the time......the beast turning on Mystery Babylon.
And sadly, I believe it is soon to happen one last time..... according to that same pattern. Solomon wrote, "what has been will be again, there is nothing new under the sun".........Mystery Babylon will be judged double......"double unto her double". Israel is getting set to rebuild the Temple that God destroyed, and double down on her rejection of Christ essentially, and make the Temple into a horrible mixture of uniting all faiths and beliefs and idolatries supposedly in the name of God once again....it will be a false peace and false unity...a counterfeit to the gospel. And once again, it will involve many Christians who succumb to that strong deception. Once again Jesus will provide deliverance for those who remain faithful to Him and the true gospel, those who survive the persecution (for those who are martyred their deliverance is through death...they will not have to live through that horrible time of judgment.)