Diameterically opposed? That's too extreme. They aren't opposites, but one has the same form, the other looks like it. And yes, technically this is correct. So let's leave it being correct, OK?
Is the impetus that you don't like the Trinity implications?
That one word derives from another word doesn't mean they have the same meaning, it has taken on a different meaning, and that is why it's differentiated. Morphe and morphosis, the form, and the appearance, that's what they mean, isn't it?
So Jesus, being in the form of God . . ., and, will have the appearance of Godliness, but not the power.
Much love!
Not true at all, they have the same meaning in both verses for 'form.' What makes them different is of course the subjects that are different that can give the 'appearance' they have different meanings for the general word derivative 'morphe.'
Both the transliterated Greek words morphe (Phil 2:6) and morphosis (2 Tim 3:5) NEVER mean a
literal form or nature, and you must know this already. They both connote a mosaic and outward appearance or form only, nothing more or less. Stop trying to keep finessing new hidden meanings and words that have no effect on either the context in Phil 2:6 or 2 Tim 3:5.
Trinitarians in general seen to not mind how 'we' interpret 2 Tim 3:5 so much, it is the verses of Phil 2:6-9 they believe they own and only their interpretation is valid. And yet they continue to lack logic and use the proper local context in their argument. It then becomes nonsense and useless to them and anyone else reading it.
(Php 2:2) make my joy full by being
like-minded, having the same love, being of one accord, of
one mind.
(Php 2:3) Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in
lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself;
(Php 2:4) each of you not looking to his own things, but each of you to the things of others.
(Php 2:5)
Have this mind in you, which was
also in Christ Jesus.
(Php 2:6) Who, though being in the
mental image of God, did not consider grasping at being equal with God,
(Php 2:7) but poured himself out, taking the
mental attitude of a servant, and was the made just the same as all ordinary men.
(Php 2:8) And being perceived as a normal man, he humbled himself, becoming obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
(Php 2:9) Wherefore God highly exalted him, and gave to him the name which is above every name- (NEV)
This translation version above is the closest to what the mosaic outward form means and fits very well in the context...
Remember the entire conversation was spawned because Paul was saying that we should be like-minded and have the mind of Christ. And how do we get that mind? The answer clearly is read in the following verses.
In order for Christ to have the form or mental attitude of his Father he had to first yield his own human will or desires to naught. Else his Father would literally not possess him and provide him his own mental character to become on par with him, or become one or like-minded.
So the mind of his Father also became the mind of his Son after Christ learned to become a true slave to his Father in both his heart-will and mind. Christ had to LEARN this as a human man. See how simple that works. Nothing mysterious or any God-man activity or kenosis processing here as Trinitarians would lead us to believe, and then to believe as they do, in confusion and nonsense.
So we like-wise also LEARN to yield our will and desires over time to our lord Yahshua (his spirit within us, as Christ did with his Father) to become
in the form -
morphe of the Son, as the Son is in
the form of the Father. See how that works? We do not become a god-man either or displace our nature temporarily in this process....
