A Little Season

[David in NJ]

I disagree on a few points, but I really don't see any usefulness in getting into it. So, thanks for your input and welcome to the thread.

Brother, do you want me to watch the videos or do you want to just tell me your position?

 

[TribulationSigns]

I disagree on a few points, but I really don't see any usefulness in getting into it. So, thanks for your input and welcome to the thread.

Clearly, it sounds like the real issue isn’t disagreement, but the fact that you couldn’t refute the Scriptures I presented. When someone says they “disagree” yet cannot provide a single verse in response, that’s not a disagreement—that’s avoidance like Christ said when someone can't gainsay or resist.

If you believe my position is wrong, then show it from the Word. If you can’t, then simply saying “I disagree” without biblical refutation or explain who the armies of Gog and Magog are carries no weight. Scripture decides truth, not personal feelings.

 

[WPM]

SEE Post 73 and 75

I do not see any biblical proof of Premil there.

 

[David in NJ]

I do not see any biblical proof of Premil there.

For the reasons stated = hello!

 

[Archie]

In addition to that which i stated in post #73 i forget to mention that my day included visiting with a friend who had cancer surgery earlier this year and the good news is that he is doing great!

i like a good laugh as it helps me unwind and @WPM provided that for me - to which i say thank you

Hopefully tomorrow i get to watch the videos, BUT i may not be able depending on all that is on my plate.

Being the hockey player that i am, growing up on hockey skates, i always have to remind myself of this = 1 Cor 13:4-7

Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

i will confess that i have yet to be as perfect as this scripture calls us to and i have failed many times!!!

No way! lol

 

[David in NJ]

I do not see any biblical proof of Premil there.

Did you forget post 55 where you were answered?

i am here to bless anyone who desires to obey the LORD = Matthew 4:4

 

[David in NJ]

No way! lol

Brother, do you want me to watch the videos or do you want to just tell me your position?

 

[Archie]

Ok, thanks. So we are in agreement on these apart from No. 4. Give me Scripture that teaches that the last days "ended with the destruction of Jerusalem and the beginning of Christ's Kingdom"? Where do you find Scripture that teaches that "the destruction of Jerusalem" ushered in "the beginning of Christ's Kingdom"?

I'm gonna have to dig into that and get back to you. I don't want to answer without giving it a thorough examination. If I forget please remind me. This thread is picking up steam and getting harder to keep up with.

 

[WPM]

Did you forget post 55 where you were answered?

i am here to bless anyone who desires to obey the LORD = Matthew 4:4

We agreed on that. I then asked you how can there be "time" after "the last day"? How can there be hours, days, weeks and years after time shall be no more? You dodged around that. Premils tend to do that.

That was my simple (but legitimate) point.

 

[David in NJ]

We agreed on that. I then asked you how can there be "time" after "the last day"? How can there be hours, days, weeks and years after time shall be no more? You dodged around that. Premils tend to do that.

That was my simple (but legitimate) point.

No dodge = i told you the answer is in the Gospel

 

[Archie]

Brother, do you want me to watch the videos or do you want to just tell me your position?

Watch the vids bro, he does such a great job with the scripture. And his timeline is all charts and stuff. I could not reproduce them here in the thread. And thanks.

He's also much more humble than me even on my best day.

 

[WPM]

No dodge = i told you the answer is in the Gospel

• How can there be "time" after "the last day"?
• How can there be hours, days, weeks and years after time shall be no more?

 

[Archie]

• How can there be "time" after "the last day"?
• How can there be hours, days, weeks and years after time shall be no more?

I know the last trumpet verses, but are there any specific last day verses other than " I will raise him up at the last day"? Thats the only one I can think off the top?

 

[David in NJ]

• How can there be "time" after "the last day"?
• How can there be hours, days, weeks and years after time shall be no more?

This is @Archie's thread and i am committed to watching the videos, as soon as i can, and will respond to that.

We will talk again after that.

 

[David in NJ]

I know the last trumpet verses, but are there any specific last day verses other than " I will raise him up at the last day"? Thats the only one I can think off the top?

1 Cor ch15 and 1 Thess 4:13-18 and more that correlate the Gospel / "at the last day" with "the last trump"

 

[Archie]

Five pages in and very little blood has been spilled thus far.

I want to thank everyone for participating, even you Scott. And if I have come off at anytime as anything less than Christlike, I sincerely apologize to whomever I may have offended, especially you Scott, sincerely.

This is my first thread, the subject matter is very close to my heart.

I hold the words of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in the highest esteem, far far above any doctrinal position that anyone here may espouse, including myself.

John 13:35 (CWSB)
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

 

[Archie]

This is @Archie's thread and i am committed to watching the videos, as soon as i can, and will respond to that.

We will talk again after that.

You're a peach, I don't care what anyone says about you over in the flat earth thread.

 

[WPM]

This is @Archie's thread and i am committed to watching the videos, as soon as i can, and will respond to that.

We will talk again after that.

Understand. Thanks. Have good rest tonight.

 

[David in NJ]

Understand. Thanks. Have good rest tonight.

Thank you and same for you.

 

[WPM]

I know the last trumpet verses, but are there any specific last day verses other than " I will raise him up at the last day"? Thats the only one I can think off the top?

• The Bible teaches us: just as there was a connection between the fall of man and the fall of creation so there will be a correlation between the glorification of man and the glorification of creation.
• Underlying the whole eschatological landscape is a theological structure popularly known as: “the already / not yet” framework.
• Scripture places our existence into two distinct and diverse ages: “this age” and” the age to come.” These two could not be more different. There is no third age. Simply put: “this age” refers to “time” and “the age to come” or the “hereafter” refers to “eternity.”
• We all know “this age” is “evil” and “corruptible.” This is in stark contrast as to how the Bible depicts the future world: “the age to come” is depicted as “perfect” and “incorruptible.” Jesus' glorious future return in majesty and glory sees Him execute divine justice and introduce everlasting righteousness on the new earth.
• What was commenced at “the beginning” will someday be concluded at “the end.” All of time and history can be found in between these two particular events.
• Significantly, God’s Word repeatedly identifies “the end” with “the coming of the Lord” when Jesus arrives in majesty and glory. What is more, all the detail attributed to the second coming is climactic.
• One will never understand when “the last day” (singular) is if they do not understand when “the last days” (plural) are.