ACTS 10 CORNELIUS

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The idea that Peter preached a different gospel to Israel contradicts Acts 15, where Peter, Paul, and the other apostles came together and affirmed that the same gospel was being preached to both Jews and Gentiles.
Lets look at verses in Galatians

[Gal 2:2 KJV] 2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.

Jesus revealed for Paul to communicate his gospel......why would he have to tell them what gospel he preached if they were already preaching the same gospel? Paul was not confirming the same gospel they all preached, these verse dont say that.

[Gal 2:7 KJV] 7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as [the gospel] of the circumcision [was] unto Peter;

These are two different gospels.......it says the gospels OF not TO......of is used to identify which gospel it is

Peter preached the gospel of the circumcizor which is found in Acts 2.....................
[Act 2:38 KJV] 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

It is John's baptism of repentance plus the name of Christ for the remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Ghost
 
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Peter stood up and said, “But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they” (Acts 15:11). That’s not a different message, that’s the exact same gospel of grace Paul preached.
Lets look at Acts 15

[Act 15:7 KJV] 7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men [and] brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

Peter was recounting Acts 10 where the Gentiles believed his preaching.....he is talking about Gentiles

[Act 15:9 KJV] 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

The them are the Gentiles

Peter said they were both saved by faith but what faith? faith in his name as seen in these verses........

[Act 3:16 KJV] 16 And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.
[Act 4:12 KJV] 12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
[Act 10:43 KJV] 43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

Lets now look at v11
[Act 15:10-11 KJV] 10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

Peter was saying that they should not put the Gentiles under the law but they found grace just as Peter and the believing Jews did for their inability to keep the law....they would all be saved by grace......this does not mean he was preaching Paul's gospel just because he said grace.......grace is found all thru scripture.... nobody is saved apart from grace and faith
 

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You're making a false division that the Bible does not make. Peter clearly preached the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ in Acts 10, and not just as historical facts, but as the basis of salvation. In Acts 10:43, Peter says plainly, “To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.” That is the gospel. Forgiveness of sins through faith in Christ, not through the law, not through works, not by birthright, but through believing in the risen Christ.
Peter said that salvation was thru his name where in Acts 10 does he say Christ died for the sins of all was buried and rose for our justification
Both Peter and the disciples and us are saved by placing faith in Christ
 

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You’re wrong to say Peter didn’t preach that Christ died for our sins. Just because the words “for our sins” don’t appear in that exact sentence doesn’t mean that’s not the message. Acts 10:39 says, “whom they slew and hanged on a tree.” That connects directly with 1 Peter 2:24, where Peter later writes that Christ “bare our sins in his own body on the tree.” That’s substitution, that’s atonement, that’s the heart of the gospel.
In Acts 10:39 Peter was just saying they were witnesses of what Christ did and they crucified Christ ........you are reading into this verse what you have been granted from God to know thru Paul what the cross accomplished which was not made known to Peter yet

As far as 1 Peter 2:24..... Peter did not convey that by the cross Jesus forgave all.....Peter only applied it to Israel.....Peter is saying Jesus shed his blood to forgive Israel only......[1Pe 2:24 KJV] 24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.........who is our sins? it is Israel only.....it is Israel whose stripes are healed
 

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You also claim Peter didn’t preach resurrection for justification, but that’s missing the point. Romans 4:25 explains what resurrection accomplishes, it proves the work is finished. Peter didn’t need to use Paul’s exact language.
Peter didnt use any language to substantiate that he was saying Christ rose to justify ALL
You are mixing Peter and Paul
 

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I disagree that the Great Commission was only for the eleven apostles. In Matthew 28:19-20, Jesus tells them to make disciples and teach them to obey all His commands, including the commission itself, so it extends beyond just them.
Where do you read that this commission extends beyond them the disciples to us?
You wont..... you are saying that the Bible says what is not being said to uphold belief in what your teachers are saying and I get it.....you dont want your beliefs in what you are taught dispelled
 

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I disagree that the Great Commission was only for the eleven apostles. In Matthew 28:19-20,
The commission of Matthew 28 was intended to be carried out in the millennial kingdom on earth
Mark 16 however was to be carried out by them........[Mar 16:15 KJV] 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
 

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1 Corinthians 12:13 says the one baptism that puts us into the Body of Christ is done by the Holy Spirit, not by water. That fits perfectly with Ephesians 4:4–5, which says there is one body, one Spirit, one Lord, one faith, one baptism. That “one baptism” is spiritual, not physical. It’s what happens the moment someone truly believes in Jesus. You don’t need water to be placed into Christ, you need the Holy Spirit. Romans 6:3–4 says we’re baptized into Christ’s death, and that’s something only the Spirit can do. You could go under water a hundred times and still be spiritually lost. But the second you put your faith in the gospel, the Spirit baptizes you into Christ (Galatians 3:26–27). That’s salvation.
Yes I totally agree
 

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Baptism doesn’t save you, but it’s a serious step of obedience for every true believer. It’s how we publicly show our faith and identify with Christ’s death and resurrection (Romans 6:4). The Bible never treats it as optional. In fact, if someone claims to follow Jesus but refuses to obey His clear command to be baptized, that raises a red flag about whether their faith is real
Where does Paul say we should publicly show our faith by being water baptized
 

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So yes, the “one baptism” in Ephesians 4:5 is Spirit baptism, the moment of true salvation when the Holy Spirit places you into Christ. But water baptism is still commanded, still important, and still expected from every believer. It doesn’t cause salvation, but it should follow it. It’s not the root of your salvation, but it is one of the first visible fruits.
Where does Paul say we have to be water baptized
 

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I appreciate your effort to walk through Acts 10, but there are some serious errors in your interpretation that need to be corrected by Scripture. You said the Gentiles in Cornelius’ house did not become part of the Body of Christ, but that is not what the Bible teaches. 1 Corinthians 12:13 says, “For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles.” There is no such thing as a Gentile being saved and not becoming part of the Body of Christ. The moment they believed, they were indwelt by the Holy Spirit and placed into the same body as every other believer.

You also claimed that Peter was preaching a different gospel than Paul, but that directly contradicts Galatians 1:8–9, which warns that if anyone preaches another gospel, they are accursed. Peter preached the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ in Acts 10:39–41. That is the same gospel Paul defines in 1 Corinthians 15:3–4. The gospel is not limited to the use of the word “cross,” it is the message of the crucified and risen Savior, which Peter clearly proclaimed.

Saying the Great Commission was not given to the Body of Christ is also off base. Jesus commanded His followers to make disciples of all nations (Matthew 28:19), and Paul echoed this same mission in 2 Corinthians 5:20, saying we are ambassadors for Christ. The early church, including Paul, fulfilled the Great Commission by preaching the same gospel to both Jews and Gentiles, calling them to repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.

Finally, saying that baptism in Acts 10 was part of Israel’s program only, and not for the Body of Christ, ignores the order of events. Cornelius and his household received the Holy Spirit before water baptism, proving that salvation was by faith alone. Peter then commanded baptism as an act of obedience, not as a requirement to enter any so-called Jewish program. Ephesians 4:4–5 says there is one body and one baptism, not separate baptisms or systems.

This is not my opinion, this is what the Bible says, there is one gospel, one body of believers, and one Spirit who saves both Jew and Gentile the same way, by grace through faith. We must let Scripture speak for itself, not divide God's plan into man-made programs.
The guy is completely lost, and incorrigible.
 

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Look at this verse........[Gal 1:9 KJV] 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
If any preach unto YOU.....this is very specific........someone preaching a different gospel to those who received Paul's gospel would be the ones accursed..............Peter preached to Israel
Paul was not antagonistic to Peter and acknowledged his apostleship in Galatians 2:8 and they decided to separate their ministries in Galatians 2:9
Yet, Paul preached to Israel, and Peter preached to Gentiles, so...
Galatians 1:9 doesn’t just warn against preaching a different gospel to the Galatians, it establishes that there is only one gospel for all people.
Paul even rebuked Peter for being out of step with the Truth of the Gospel... but whose Gospel was Paul calling Peter to obey? Is it just a coincidence that the very same issue Paul corrected Peter about (causing Gentile believers to begin submitting to the yoke of the Law) was the very same issue Paul was writing the Galatians about? Why is Paul's Gospel to the Galatians the very same Gospel he demanded Peter get back in line with if Peter had a different Gospel than Paul? LOL!
 
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Where does Paul say we have to be water baptized
Paul never says you have to be water baptized to be saved. If he did, he wouldn’t have written, “Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel” (1 Corinthians 1:17). Think about that. If baptism was part of the gospel that saves us, Paul would have made sure to baptize everyone, but he didn’t. He even said he was glad he only baptized a few people (1 Corinthians 1:14–16). That alone proves baptism is not what saves you.

Paul taught over and over that we are saved by grace through faith, not by works or rituals (Ephesians 2:8, 9). When he talks about baptism in Romans 6:3–4, he’s describing a spiritual reality. 5 is the Holy Spirit placing us into the body of Christ the moment we believe (1 Corinthians 12:13). That’s not talking about water, it’s talking about the real, saving work of the Spirit.

Water baptism is still important. It’s a step of obedience, a public testimony of what already happened in your heart, but it’s not what saves you, and Paul never says it is. He says you have to believe in Jesus and trust Him alone to be saved. Everything else flows from that.