Adam Eve

[ATP]

1 Tim 2:13-14 NIV For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.

 

[Bible_Gazer]

Romans 5:12 kjv
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

 

[DPMartin]

Well, in this case if anyone cares, the text quoted from 1st Timothy is a description of what is understood as godliness in a woman in the context of God’s People, when teaching and preaching and the sharing of the Lord’s percepts are expressed in a organized or official capacity. Not only for the reason mention by Apostle Paul but if you read, the Lord’s discontent: "Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife"

　
Gen:3:17: And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

　
but truly it’s on the man, what if Adam didn’t eat of the fruit? Could he have done something in his relationship with the Lord God that could save his wife? Don’t forget who Adam was:

　
Luke:3:38: Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

　
Adam was responsible to his wife for her knowledge of what God said in the case of the trees in the garden, and it was the serpent that tested her for her knowledge and found error and exploited it. God told Adam his and then their status in the garden. The Lord God did not tell Eve. That was Adam’s job. Therefore in respect to God’s will and Way. It is the men of the community of God’s people, that are to and are responsible for the conveyance of the truth of God in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[HammerStone]

I think this would explain most of it:

Mark 10:7-8 ESV
Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. So they are no longer two but one flesh.

 

[2404]

1 Tim 2:13-14 NIV For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.
[/quoMte]
Much could be said but
The first Adam went willingly into the transgression knowing he was a part of God and therefore could not be eternally separated from God but he was not able to redeem his bride as the second Adam is more than able.

 

[ewq1938]

1 Tim 2:13-14 NIV For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.
[/quoMte]
Much could be said but
The first Adam went willingly into the transgression

This is correct.

knowing he was a part of God and therefore could not be eternally separated from God

This isn't scripturally supported. Adam wasn't "part of God" he was a creation of God, and anyone who is not saved/in the book of life on judgment day will be "separated from God" and be destroyed.

 

[2404]

This is correct.



This isn't scripturally supported. Adam wasn't "part of God" he was a creation of God, and anyone who is not saved/in the book of life on judgment day will be "separated from God" and be destroyed.

I understand the word redemption to mean being bought back and how else could you be known before the foundation of the world?

 

[ewq1938]

I understand the word redemption to mean being bought back and how else could you be known before the foundation of the world?

I have no interest in that. You said two things that aren't scriptural:

1. Adam was part of God. That is false.
2. Adam thus could not be separated from God. Also false.

 

[DPMartin]

I have no interest in that. You said two things that aren't scriptural:

1. Adam was part of God. That is false.
2. Adam thus could not be separated from God. Also false.

Not necessarily there ewg
The Holy Ghost or Spirit is of God, is it not?
Jn:20:22: And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

A restoration to:
7: And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

You seem to forget that they had a life that they died from that day and were left with a life of dust to dust, and ashes to ashes. When you leave this world and from the presence in it. You are dead to it. Doesn’t matter what your statues really is. To the world, if they are not ware of your existence, your dead. They died to the life of being in the Presence of God that was of God. His breath is of Him, in His Presence is it not? In other words they were removed from the Life given them, just as dying is being removed from the life given one in the world. And if you believe you are correct, then you are saying this verse is incorrect:

Luke:3:38: Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

 

[Angelina]

1 Tim 2:13-14 NIV For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.

Adam was given that command before Eve was created therefore Adam was responsible for ensuring that the command was met. As BG has pointed out ~ Romans 5:12. If Adam was not deceived he would not have eaten also.

 

[DPMartin]

Adam was given that command before Eve was created therefore Adam was responsible for ensuring that the command was met. As BG has pointed out ~ Romans 5:12. If Adam was not deceived he would not have eaten also.

I don’t know about met in the case of Eve, but he was certainly responsible for her knowledge of what God said. Which the serpent challenged and she was found lacking. Every time Satan challenged Jesus, Jesus responded with the Word of God that was either written or been said, without fault, without error.

 

[ewq1938]

Adam was given that command before Eve was created therefore Adam was responsible for ensuring that the command was met.

Or God spoke to Eve just as he has spoken to Adam. Either way, the conversation with Eve is not recorded. All we have is her testimony of what God said:

Gen 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

Part isn't found in the conversation with Adam which leads me to believe God spoke to Eve and added something that was important to her. Some believe she is adding to the original command but I believe God did in fact tell her this.