(antonio;11672)
Dear Betchevy--the only footprint "shaped like ours" that I have heard about appearing next to a dinasaours footprint, had a shoe heel in the print. It may not be a sham but no one takes it seriously. If there is another footprint, I haven't heard of it and would like to know where you saw it.Granted God may have a whole differnt vocabulary but that doesn't mean that he inspired men to write the Bible using that vocabulary. It seems to me what II Peter 3:8 says is that with God time is irrelevant, He is infinite, forever, ever was, expanding as the cosmos expands, constantly creating as the cosmos constantly creates. For hundreds of years, Christians have believed the Bible says it was about 6,000 years since creation. Where do you find a measuirment of time called "flesh years"? God certainly knew of us before our birh but that is because He knows all, not because we were on earth ticking off "flesh years."Your calculations, respectfully, seem created to meet the scientific knowledge regarding the age of the earth and the evolution of life.antonio
Antonio, you should be advised that a number of folks here are followers and students of Arnold Murray of Gravette, Ark.Here is a partial list of his teachings, which in all honesty, I agree with a few of them, other I disagree with:
Arnold Murray * In mentioning God the Father, Murray often refers to him as both "The Father," and "Our Father." He refers to Jesus as "Jesus" and "Yeshua". He refers to the Holy Ghost as the Holy Spirit. He does teach the Trinity, but in a manner that some may refer to as modalism.Human Origins * Murray teaches that all the races were created on the sixth day of creation based on the scripture of Gen 1:26 and Adam and Eve were created after the seventh day. Traditional Christianity teaches that all people were descended from one man and one woman who were created on the sixth day. Murray also teaches a difference between Adam and the ha'Adam to document the above. * Murray teaches that God first created man in a spiritual body, there was a rebellion led by Satan, then God placed those souls into flesh bodies, born innocent on Earth and to die once in the flesh, finally returning to God in spirit for judgement. He also says that the "elect" are those who sided with God during the rebellion of Satan. * Murray teaches the doctrine of the "serpent seed" (God, speaking to Satan, Gen 3:15 "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." ), which is the belief that Satan beguiled Eve, and that Cain was the offspring of the union. He sites as documentation the mistranslated word "again" which Strong's Concordance #3254 documents should rightly be translated "continued" meaning Cain and Abel were fraternal twins. He further states that the first time the twins both gave their first fruits to God at the same time, traditionally would be at the day they came of age, on the same day. Further, he uses the Strong's Concrdance to document that the descendants of Cain are called Kenites [Strong's Concordance verifies the definition of Kenites to mean "Sons of Cain". He claims that these people are referred to in Matthew 13 as the "tares".EschatologyMurray teaches there are two tribulations. The sixth trump tribulation Rapture is the Anti-christ, effectively pretending to be Christ, and deceiving many, convincing them to "fly away" with him before the seventh trump. He teaches that the seventh trump tribulation is God's wrath. According to Murray, those who think the first ones taken from the field in the first tribulation Rapture are those deceived and are mistakenly worshiping the anti-christ, thinking he is Jesus which therefore would describe them as those having "the mark of the beast" mentioned in Revelation 13.To support his teaching, Murray cites: Mat 24:40 "Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left." Eze 13:18 "And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the women that sew pillows to all armholes, and make kerchiefs upon the head of every stature to hunt souls! Will ye hunt the souls of my people, and will ye save the souls alive that come unto you?" Eze 13:19 "And will ye pollute me among my people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live, by your lying to my people that hear your lies?" Eze 13:20 " Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly." * Using Strong's Concordance, he distinguishes between the terms Sheol, keber, Gehenna, Hades, Tartarus, and the lake of fire, while some Christians do not distinguish between the terms, or infer them to mean the same thing (viz., Hell). He teaches that the Lake of Fire is an annihilation of the soul; that souls judged wicked cease to exist (blotted out) at the end of the millennium testing. (He bases this on Ezekiel 28 and other passages.)Other Teachings * Teaches that there is a separation of time between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 (See Gap creationism). He cites the alleged mistranslation of the word היה in Gen 1:2, which incorrectly translated as "was", should have been translated (according to Strong's Concordance) correctly as "became", thus reading : "Gen 1:2 And the earth became without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep" He states that this teaching is also supported by other scriptures in the Bible. * Teaches that there were 8 Adamic souls on Noah's Ark, and 2 (male/female) of every flesh including human flesh. Traditional Christianity only considers that there were 8: Noah, his wife, Noah's 3 sons (Shem, Ham and Japheth) and their wives. Murray teaches that that possibly 2 of the other souls on the ark would include Kenites. * He believes and has stated as fact an urban legend that NASA scientists have discovered a "missing" day in time that corresponds to the Bible's account of the sun's standing still in the sky (Joshua 10:13). Murray was observed doing this on May 5, 2005. [1] * He teaches that the Bible supports the Death Penalty for those convicted of murder and rape. * He teaches that the Rapture of the righteous before Satan's tribulation at the sixth trump is a false doctrine, and that those who believe it will be deceived by Satan during that tribulation. * Teaches the doctrine of the Father, the Son, and The Holy Spirit. * Murray rejects the use of the term "Reverend" for himself, claiming that only God is entitled to this term. * Teaches that the single instance where "Easter" appears in the bible is obviously mistranslated, saying that the the original word is "pascal" and should have been translated correctly as "Passover". He also states that the word "Easter" refers to the goddess "Ishtar", and is a fertility rite ceremony. He states that Webster's Dictionary documents this.