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[Dan Clarkston]

And let's no forget...

Proverbs 28:13
He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

Galatians 6:7-8 (see Gen 8:22)
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

It is evident that one must confess AND forsake their sin in order for the Lord to have mercy on them after they have sinned.

To say otherwise is to say God can be mocked, what we sow is not what we reap... if we sow to the flesh we do not reap corruption (no longer in right standing) and if we sow to the spirit we don't reap life (the opposite of Galatians 6:7-8)

Those in the OSAS camp have been deceived to believe the opposite of Galatians 6:7-8 because they claim when one sows to the flesh they do not reap corruption therefore in their view God can be mocked as OSAS is a mockery of the Lord.

The OSAS peoples even claim the Holy Spirit never convicts us of sin as though when a Christian sins the Holy Spirit would never lead them to confess and forsake their sin which of course is not what God's Word says.

 

[marks]

Those in the OSAS camp have been deceived to believe the opposite of Galatians 6:7-8 because they claim when one sows to the flesh they do not reap corruption therefore in their view God can be mocked as OSAS is a mockery of the Lord.

The OSAS peoples even claim the Holy Spirit never convicts us of sin as though when a Christian sins the Holy Spirit would never lead them to confess and forsake their sin which of course is not what God's Word says.

Your words here speak for themselves in how you misrepresent OSAS views. This makes a certain showing of your presentation as patently false, and your pejoratives towards others unfounded, and inappropriate.

Would this be considered "unintentional"? Or do you consider what you write before you post?

You need not answer to me, of course!

Much love!

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Your words here speak for themselves in how you misrepresent OSAS views

Of course proponents of false OSAS doctrine like to tickle people's ears by putting lipstick on this pig.

The Lord delivered me out of a church I attended for several years that taught OSAS and they taught the things I'm speaking of and play videos from well kn ow preachers who were proponents of false OSAS doctrine.

I never believed in it but never realized it was false doctrine until the Lord started opening my eyes years ago to their twisting of scripture and their lies about all future sins are already forgiven and no need to ask for forgiveness if we sin because we're already been forgiven.

This all started explaining why quite a few people in the church were engaging is sinful behavior and were popular in the church because they had been taught that there is no sin anymore, it's all been done away with and so they have no problem doing sinful stuff.

They had one guy who's wife was on the board who was a dope smoker for years and he drank the booze too! The "pastors" celebrated this guy as a fine upstanding Christian just because he was seemingly a nice guy and he did construction work and would occasionally helps church members with house repairs. It was nuts.

But, that's how the OSAS peoples roll. Charles Stanley said if you commit adultery or murder someone it's no problem because those sins are already forgiven! Gnarly Charlie was considered to be the leading authority on eternal security teaching before he croaked

So keep putting lipstick on the pig all you want, but don't expect me to fall for the OSAS deception.

 

[Behold]

So a person can get born again and continue living in sin, knowing they are in sin, and their slate is all clean then right?

If the person is born again, then they are now "born again" into the Kingdom of God.

God, has performed a spiritual circumcision, Colossians 2:11..///.whereby the Born again Spirit and the 'old man of sin" are divided.
This is why Paul says to "reckon the old man, dead".

Now, the born again Spirit, who is the actual CHRISTian, "new creation"... is no longer "under the law".

So, not being under the Law, "but under Grace'....... The Law can't define you as a sinner, or your deeds as sin.

This means that in the KOG< the born again..= the "new creation in Christ" exist here...

= "As Jesus is, so are the born again, in THIS World".

and here.

= "where there is no LAW... there is no TRANSGRESSION (sin)."

The born again, exist as a new creation in Christ, in the KOG< and there is no Moses Law or 10 Commandments found there.

When the believer is able to come to this revelation i just taught, they are coming into this MIND.....= "as many as be perfect"... .and Paul means... you have "worked out your Salvation".. you have entered the revelation that is to understand how to exist by Right Faith, in your Salvation.

See, most christians never learn how to correctly. exist inside this Grace of God, that is Salvation.. as you do this by understanding who you have become "IN CHRIST", as a "new Creation".

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Now, the born again Spirit, who is the actual CHRISTian, "new creation"...

I figured the gnostic stuff would come out eventually.

The fake gospel that says a man can live in sin in his flesh but he is still saved because his spirit and his flash are not the same guy

Criminals try that shtick in court too and it doesn't wash and it won't wash on judgement days before the Lord.

 

[PS95]

Hi, I would need to generalize your reply a bit to figure out what you are trying to say. Thanks.

I'm sorry . I thought it was self explanatory.

 

[PS95]

But, that's how the OSAS peoples roll. Charles Stanley said if you commit adultery or murder someone it's no problem because those sins are already forgiven! Gnarly Charlie was considered to be the leading authority on eternal security teaching before he croaked

So keep putting lipstick on the pig all you want, but don't expect me to fall for the OSAS deception.

I've heard him preach. Do you have a quote or proof of that? It sounds really insane to be teaching people that!

 

[Behold]

I figured the gnostic stuff would come out eventually.

"Gnostic Stuff"?

True Gnostics, as defined by the teaching of The Father of Gnosticism.. (was he named in the video), by the person who made the video who does not understand God's Grace or God's Salvation??????
Well let me help you @Dan Clarkston ..
The Father of Gnosticism "Valentinus" taught that there is no such thing as sin, so there is no need for Christ on The Cross.

I teach that "all have sinned" and the only rememdy for your sin, is found ON THE Cross of Christ.

See if you can figure that out...

Now...Notice where this is located.. and notice who wrote this verse.

Paul is not a "Gnostic".
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Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a New Creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things have become new.
ASV
Wherefore if any man is in Christ, he is a new creature: the old things are passed away; behold, they are become new.
AMP

Therefore if any person is [ingrafted] in Christ (the Messiah) he is a NEW Creation (a new creature altogether); the old [previous moral and spiritual condition] has passed away. Behold, the fresh and new has come!
BRG
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
CSB
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a NEW Creation; the old has passed away, and see, the new has come!
CEB
So then, if anyone is in Christ, that person is part of the new creation. The old things have gone away, and look, new things have arrived!
CJB
Therefore, if anyone is united with the Messiah, he is a NEW Creation — the old has passed; look, what has come is fresh and new!
CEV
Anyone who belongs to Christ is a new person. The past is forgotten, and everything is new.
DARBY
So if any one [be] in Christ, [there is] a new creation; the old things have passed away; behold all things have become new:
DLNT
So then if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old things passed-away; behold, new things have come-into-being.
DRA
If then any be in Christ a new creature, the old things are passed away, behold all things are made new.
ERV
When anyone is in Christ, it is a whole new world. The old things are gone; suddenly, everything is new!
EASY
When anyone belongs to Christ, they become a new person. Their old way of life has gone. Their new life has begun!
EHV
So then, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away. The new has come!
ESV
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.
ESVUK