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PART II

4. CNN assertion: CNN frequently repeats CDC’s advice that children should get the flu shot, which you assure CNN’s audience has been proven safe.

Fact: A 2012 Cochrane review looking at studies of influenza vaccination in healthy children found no safety studies in children under age two, and declared that safety studies were “urgently required”.

5. CNN assertion: CNN also promotes CDC’s recommendation that all pregnant women get a flu shot.
Fact: CDC recommends the flu shot for pregnant women despite the fact that FDA—the agency charged with assessing vaccine safety—has refused to license the flu shot during pregnancy due to grave safety concerns.

6. CNN assertion: CNN urges seniors to get their flu shots. CDC credits the vaccine with a dramatic reduction in influenza-related deaths among the elderly.
Fact: The scientific community has thoroughly debunked CDC’s claims that the flu shot reduces death among seniors.

7. CNN assertion: You frequently inform the CNN audience that “the flu vaccine is safe, and significant side effects are very rare.”
Fact: Actual injury rates are impossible to determine since flu shots are exempt from pre-and-post-marketing placebo studies required of other medicines, and because HHS’s post-marketing surveillance system, the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System [VAERS], captures “fewer than 1% of vaccine injuries” according to a 2010 HHS-funded study.

8. CNN assertion: On March 5, 2020, you and Anderson Cooper did a “Town Hall” segment, “Corona Facts and Fears”, in which you fervently urged listeners to get the flu shot as the best way to keep healthy during the coronavirus pandemic. According to Anderson, “If you are concerned about coronavirus, you should get a flu shot”.
Fact: However, the only study we have been able to find assessing flu shots and coronavirus is a January 2020 US Pentagon study that found that the flu shot INCREASES the risks from coronavirus by 36%. “Receiving influenza vaccination may increase the risk of other respiratory viruses, a phenomenon known as “virus interference…’vaccine derived’ virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus…

9. CNN assertion: Sanjay, I’ve watched your video assuring the public that getting the flu shot cannot increase one’s chances of getting the flu.
Fact: While that assertion has some meager support from a very small number of studies, the overwhelming weight of published science suggests that getting an annual flu shot can actually increase your risk of both flu and flu-like illnesses.

10. CNN assertion: One final observation about a different vaccine; In CNN’s regular promotion of measles vaccines, CNN and Sanjay frequently claim that natural measles mortalities are 1-2 in 1000. Those estimates seem calculated to frighten people into taking a measles shot and to drive MMR mandates.
Fact: CDC’s 1963 mortality and morbidity data show that prior to the introduction of the measles vaccine, improvements in nutrition and hygiene had already driven US measles mortality in U.S. to 400 per year, a population ratio of 1/500,000 and a death-case ratio of 1 in 10,000about the same risk of dying from a lightning strike.

CONCLUSION
In their 2010 meta-analysis, the Cochrane researchers accused the CDC of deliberately misrepresenting the science in order to support their universal influenza vaccination recommendation. Nevertheless, CNN continually broadcasts CDC pronouncements as gospel and, ironically, ridicules those of us who actually read the science as “purveyors of ‘vaccine misinformation’”.


It is quite clear that the leader in Fake News publication -- CNN -- has been outed by Kennedy. which means that BILL GATES HAS BEEN OUTED. Now are you going to admit that there is a conspiracy, or are you going to go on supporting the lies? And if there is one thing God hates, it is lies.

Thanks @Enoch111 nice to have it all in one place to read.

We really need to be praying and guarding the backs of the whistle blowers re Gates...or there will be many "accidents " and "suicides" happening!! They speak for us.
 
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What are your thoughts on David Ike and 5g - he is a weird guy isn’t he, remember when he suddenly went from a football reporter to wearing purple ect.......
Just curious really as he has been in the news here lately x
Rita

Hi Rita, when I looked up David Ike and 5g , the video has become unavailable. This is what I got:
YouTube tightens Covid-19 rules after Icke interview
 

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"Heart disease was an uncommon cause of death in the US at the beginning of the 20th century. By mid-century it had become the commonest cause."


The epidemic of the 20(th) century: coronary heart disease. - PubMed - NCBI

Prev Med. 1975 Jun;4(2):115-25.
The recent decrease in CHD mortality.
Gordon T, Thom T.

Decline in Cardiovascular Mortality: Possible Causes and Implications
Abstract
If the control of infectious diseases was the public health success story of the first half of the 20th century, then the decline in mortality from coronary heart disease (CHD) and stroke has been the success story of the century’s last 4 decades. The early phase of this decline in CHD and stroke was unexpected and controversial when first reported in the mid-1970s, having followed 60 years of gradual increase as the U.S. population aged. However, in 1978 the participants in a conference convened by the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute (NHLBI) concluded that a significant recent downtick in CHD and stroke mortality rates had definitely occurred, at least in the U.S. Since 1978, a sharp decline in mortality rates from CHD and stroke has become unmistakable throughout the industrialized world, with age-adjusted mortality rates having declined to about one-third of their 1960s baseline by 2000. Models have shown that this remarkable decline has been fueled by rapid progress in both prevention and treatment, including precipitous declines in cigarette smoking, improvements in hypertension treatment and control, widespread use of statins to lower circulating cholesterol levels, and the development and timely use of thrombolysis and stents in acute coronary syndrome to limit or prevent infarction.
 
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Hi Rita, when I looked up David Ike and 5g , the video has become unavailable. This is what I got:
YouTube tightens Covid-19 rules after Icke interview
Yes, he was in sighting violence and encouraging ‘ his followers ‘ to burn the 5g masts - he believe all kinds of weird things, like the queen is really a lizard, and that there is a base on the moon endeavouring to control things..........he use to be a very sane person !
Rita
 
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Thus also the source of the distractions and deceptions of the dna 'specialists' .... sinfully also used and widely to discredit the Bible and Truth, opposed to True Godliness.

all kinds of weird things, like the queen is really a lizard, and that there is a base on the moon endeavouring to control things....
 

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Yes, he was in sighting violence and encouraging ‘ his followers ‘ to burn the 5g masts - he believe all kinds of weird things, like the queen is really a lizard, and that there is a base on the moon endeavouring to control things..........he use to be a very sane person !
Rita

Oh yikes! How this world and Satan can deceive so many, sad.
 
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You can call it a *conspiracy theory" or you can call it a "real conspiracy" (which it is). All you have to do is CONNECT THE DOTS.
These same people will claim the word 'theory' (as in 'the theory of evolution') means a fact. So on that basis there wouldn't be much difference between a conspiracy being a 'theory' or being a 'fact. LOL
 
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Thanks for help fulfilling prophecy...
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
(2Pe 3:3-4)
 
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Thanks for help fulfilling prophecy...
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

Somehow, I figured God would manage a more effective plague than 1.5% - 4% mortality rate. But then, we've had Doomsday prophets before, with less than you have.
 

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These same people will claim the word 'theory' (as in 'the theory of evolution') means a fact.

They would be wrong. In science, the word "theory" means a hypothesis that has been repeatedly verified by facts. Facts are data. Hypotheses are testable predictions about a natural phenomena. Theories are ideas that explain the phenomena, and which have been confirmed by facts.

So on that basis there wouldn't be much difference between a conspiracy being a 'theory' or being a 'fact. LOL

In everyday usage, "theory" has been degraded to something like 'guess.'
 

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Here in Australia, our government has written a "COVID19" tracking app, ye right, how does your phone know you have it. than last night said on the news" all australiians go download it now", get stuffed.

If anyone cat see where this is going well, what can you say.
 
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Doing research on the origins of the Lollards, I found myself looking at some accounts of the Black Death that killed somewhere between a third and a half of the population of Europe.
There were three common responses to the plague: some people just partied hard as if there were no tomorrow (as indeed for many there wasn't); others looked for someone to blame, and since the Chinese were a little bit far off at that time and Bill Gates hadn't been born yet, they went for the Jews. These had been banished from England 100 years before, but in Europe there were pogroms in several cities and towns and some thousands of Jews were killed.
But a third group, in their fear and despair, looked to their faith, and many of them found that the Church of that time did not answer those fears and looked further. It was the beginning of the Lollards and one can trace a line from there to the Reformation.

So instead of looking for conspiracies, we should be looking to reach out with the (true) Gospel to those who have yet to hear it.
 

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Here in Australia, our government has written a "COVID19" tracking app, ye right, how does your phone know you have it. than last night said on the news" all australiians go download it now", get stuffed.

If anyone cat see where this is going well, what can you say.
Sounds like a case of the Eloi being prepared for the Morlocks.
 

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Yes, but for those guys, reality is the enemy, to be avoided as much as possible.

When will a man trying to do good get a break. Bill Gates took seriously the issue of how do you build sewage treatment plants in countries that cannot afford modern systems. He got engineers, companies to design and build solutions that are now out there working. I take my hat off to this guy, he is doing stuff governments and others are not.

Any believer who opposes those who help the poor and needy does not know Jesus. Jesus's heart is for the vulnerable. If covid19 takes a hold in africa, millions could die in months. The world is a jumble of people trying to make things work and self interest, so not surprisingly it often goes wrong. Conspiracies are real, like countries acting to stop a financial collapse, or countries sharing science about a virus to help stop it killing people, or international food distribution continuing despite a lock down.

We are called to be a blessing to our neighbour, so let us praise those who likewise are doing the same, God bless you.
 

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Hi Rita, when I looked up David Ike and 5g , the video has become unavailable. This is what I got:
YouTube tightens Covid-19 rules after Icke interview

David Ike claimed he was Jesus reincarnated. He is a lunatic and a fraud. If he says anything, the truth is probably the opposite. In the uk they banned him because people were setting fire to 5G masts because of his nutcase ideas.

If you want a police state, you let unscientific conspiracy ideas run riot without proper responses or curbing these lunatics. And yes anything could cause anything, but you need to have a reasonable cause and effect. A virus is an organism that comes from living creatures, that can jump species on occasion. 5 G is radio waves, or light at low frequency is what we use for phones etc. The only thing these waves can do is damage biological life, and this is only at massive energies, not even close to what we get in our homes or from masts. Now I know very little in detail about these subjects, but enough to dismiss these lunatics as lunatics.

By the way David Ike believes we are ruled by lizard people. But if you want someone like this to be your authority, you should go a set up your own community somewhere isolated, because that is the only place you will be safe, except the lizard people will be there among you, and you will never know, until it is too late, hahahah. Lol.

And on the subject of lizard people Trump would be one, or else he could not be president :(
 
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Please! When Bill Gates can figure out how to keep viruses from infecting Windows, then I will think about listening to him about how to keep it from infecting humans!

Sorry folks... I am not one big on following conspiracy theories. Some of them might be true totally or to some degree. But I mean... I am not ready to even believe that China intended to do this to help compete with the U.S. economy. I mean, throw the whole world in turmoil? I don't get it? I don't see that as a reasonable solution! It's damaging your own consumer.

As for Gates... I really haven't been following the story. Obviously a billionaire and has the power to find research and get things to happen. I'd like to think he is trying to contribute in a positive way. Maybe he's not....

But if you want to talk viruses, know what the biggest virus is on Earth? The most damaging? It's the human race! I am not a bleeding heart liberal, I am actually a staunch conservative. But we are a plague to all other species.
 

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But if you want to talk viruses, know what the biggest virus is on Earth? The most damaging? It's the human race! I am not a bleeding heart liberal, I am actually a staunch conservative. But we are a plague to all other species.

Not all. Among the species that have prospered are wheat, corn, rats, cockroaches, chickens, etc. And dogs and cats.
 
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Not all. Among the species that have prospered are wheat, corn, rats, cockroaches, chickens, etc. And dogs and cats.
Good point! I got 3 cats of my own.... I sometimes wish I had their life!
 
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Just to put a dose of reality into the imaginary world of conspiracy fantasy addicts.

There is no need for a chip. A proven technology is facial recognition programming. China has used this against Muslims in it remoter provinces and is starting to use it to monitor and reward/punish cityzen on there behaviour.

If you want to panic about government monitoring and controlling your behaviour, this is what you should be going gray over.

WMC...There's a lot more that that recognition technology mate....think much bigger and more intrusive, that is a permanent resident in your home and even your bedroom. A lot of it was first experimented under the US secretive DARPA programs and even the Q engineers of the UK and N. America...and I once worked for them (Qinetiq), before it gets rolled out by other public developers and companies that many 'love to death.'

Wait until the 5G networks are activated in full, and London, Birmingham, Manchester and other major cities in the UK become 'smart' cities under the watchful eye of the AI system. Facial recognition is only a percentage of goodies in store for you, for your own good, safety and security as deemed necessary by the 'Chancellors' of the New Age. And there should be no panic for those in Christ anyway when this time arrives.

If and when the time comes and surely will someday, they will know what time it is ....like all the believers who knew the signs and words of Christ to flee. And they all did around 66-68 AD before Rome destroyed Jerusalem and many part of Judea by 70 AD. This time though they will be delivered by our Lord personally, whether through their deaths or when he returns, and this time not by their own fast moving feet speeding away from the sword or spear of the enemies of God.

Bless you,

APAK
 
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