ARE ALL BIBLE TRANSLATIONS TRUSTWORTHY?

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Jack

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I do not see any.

But I am talking about the New Testament - the authors claimed they live in the last days. Do you believe they were inspired?
You don't see any??? How about the return of Israel to the Land of the Bible? For starters ...
 

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It happened almost 100 years ago. And it is not a sign from the New Testament.
This isn't New Testament???

Luke 21:24-32
Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

32 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place.

Guess who's in the news every day. A TINY dot on the map called Israel!

And LOTS more proof right under your nose!
 
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This isn't New Testament???

Luke 21:24-32
Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

32 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place.

Guess who's in the news every day. A TINY dot on the map called Israel!

And LOTS more proof right under your nose!
Can you please use normal formatting and less exclamation and question marks? This is very unpleasant to read. We are not in an elementary school.

Yes, Luke 21 is the New Testament. But it says nothing about modern state Israel from the first half of the 20th century. It says that the generation Jesus was talking to ("this generation") will not pass away till everything take place. Their generation does not live till today.
 
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Jack

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Can you please use normal formatting and less exclamation and question marks? This is very unpleasant to read. We are not in an elementary school.
It got your attention.
Yes, Luke 21 is the New Testament. But it says nothing about modern state Israel from the first half of the 20th century. It says that the generation Jesus was talking to ("this generation") will not pass away till everything take place. Their generation does not live till today.
It's referring to the generation that witnesses Israel recover Jerusalem! Guess what happened in 1967. A MASS of Arab Nations ganged up on TINY Israel and Israel destroyed them!

Guess what happened in 2017. You're just not paying attention.
 

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It got your attention.
Because you replied to my post, not because you used gigantic formatting. So, let us keep our conversation on the level of adult people.

It's referring to the generation that witnesses Israel recover Jerusalem! Guess what happened in 1967. A MASS of Arab Nations ganged up on TINY Israel and Israel destroyed them!

Guess what happened in 2017. You're just not paying attention.
"This generation" was the generation Jesus was talking to. I have no idea why you are trying to glue the modern events to the text of Luke. Is their generation still alive?
 
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Jack

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Because you replied to my post, not because you used gigantic formatting. So, let us keep our conversation on the level of adult people.
Ok, give it a try.
"This generation" was the generation Jesus was talking to. I have no idea why you are trying to glue the modern events to the text of Luke. Is their generation still alive?
Check out the 1967 war. Israel MOPPED up the cowardly Arabs who ganged up on Israel. God fought for Israel! You need to pay attention!
 

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Check out the 1967 war. Israel MOPPED up the cowardly Arabs who ganged up on Israel. God fought for Israel! You need to pay attention!
It has nothing to do with Luke. And stop using gigantic font and exclamations marks or I will stop reading your posts.
 
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Guess where Jesus will return. It's called ISRAEL! The Land of the Bible.
Jesus already was in ISRAEL! The land of the Bible. He said NOTHING! about something happening 2,000 years after his speech. He said "this" generation will not pass!!!

I will try your style of writing, maybe you will understand it easier.
 
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Jack

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Jesus already was in ISRAEL! The land of the Bible. He said NOTHING! about something happening 2,000 years after his speech. He said "this" generation will not pass!!!

I will try your style of writing, maybe you will understand it easier.
Sit back and watch God fight for Israel, again and again ...

The Christian Bible is about Israel, the Land of the Bible, where Jesus will return!

Zechariah 14:1-12
1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming, ...2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; ... 3 Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle. 4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east ...
12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.
 

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Sit back and watch God fight for Israel, again and again ...

The Christian Bible is about Israel, the Land of the Bible, where Jesus will return!

Zechariah 14:1-12
1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming, ...2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; ... 3 Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle. 4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east ...
12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.
"This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
Mt 24:34

"This generation shall not pass, till all these things be done. "
Mk 13:30

"This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. "
Lk 21:31

You have it 3 times in three gospels. And you are still ignoring it.
 

Jack

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"This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
Mt 24:34

"This generation shall not pass, till all these things be done. "
Mk 13:30

"This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. "
Lk 21:31

You have it 3 times in three gospels. And you are still ignoring it.
Yeah, the generation that witnessed Israel recover Jerusalem! 1967. Some are still living, but it's closing in! You're just not paying attention!
 

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Yeah, the generation that witnessed Israel recover Jerusalem! 1967. Some are still living, but it's closing in! You're just not paying attention!
This is not biblical, you are adding to Scriptures. Jesus said "this generation will not pass away".

You are changing it to "that generation that will see Jerusalem in 1967". You are creating your own eschatology.
 
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Which clearly means it wasn't totally fulfilled then. But it is happening now!

It was a dual prophecy. Read it again.
Well, you are arguing with Jesus (or at least with the text of gospels). He said nothing about dual prophecy or that it will not be totally fulfilled. He said the opposite:

"This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
Mt 24:34

It is obviously you who should read it again. You are twisting it to the point that you are basically saying the exact opposite of it.
 

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Well, you are arguing with Jesus (or at least with the text of gospels). He said nothing about dual prophecy or that it will not be totally fulfilled. He said the opposite:

"This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
BINGO! Ain't happened yet! But soon.
Mt 24:34

It is obviously you who should read it again. You are twisting it to the point that you are basically saying the exact opposite of it.
You don't have a clue what's happening right under you nose. But you will!
 

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Those two verses are unrelated aren't they?
They aren't to me!
Whether they are to someone else may well depend on how many, or how strongly one holds to "traditions of "man/men."

1 Peter 2:5 (KJV)
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house [Bethel=House Of God/beth Aven=house of Nothing], an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

This "Holy Priesthood" now? Is this just a "thousand year" Priesthood with Christ during the mellinia? Or even something "shorter termed" like during this "brief pause" in Eternity that is known "generally speaking" as "life on earth?
Or is it and/or does it indicate more then that?
One should (peradventure) take "The Order Of Melchizedek." Was this merely a "decree" from some guy named Melchizedek?
Or was this "fellowship or brotherhood, are gathering" of Priests of "The MOST High God" counseled by Melchizedek to establish (in government) "an/this" forever Priesthood?

Guess it's all up to the reader to interpret it however they may?
Or, allow someone else to tell you how it should be interpreted.
Eh?
 
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