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If ALL your loved ones were threatened with torture then murder, would you take the mark to stop that from happening ?
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If ALL your loved ones were threatened with torture then murder, would you take the mark to stop that from happening ?
Which is further confirmed by Eph 1:13, 1 Cor 15:1-4.
Now if you did take the mark to save your loved ones from torture then death do you believe that you remain eternally saved ?
Rev 14:9-11
I don't need to go to Hell to save my loved ones. Jesus already took care of that. He gave us many promises.
Acts 16:31 Believe in the Lord Jesus and you'll be saved, you and your family.
But if you ARE saved, how can taking the mark UNsave you ?
If taking the mark UNsaves you then Acts 16:31 is wrong, so what's going wrong with Scripture ?
Because BILLIONS who accept the Mark will burn in Hell FOREVER.
God's promises are only for His people who believe His promises. Not for those who take the Mark.
Taking the Mark will not save anyone! Including family.
God's promises are only for His people who believe His promises.
Acts 16:31, Gospel Eph 1:13, 1 Cor 15:1-4 teaches that a person IS saved/sealed/justified if they place their trust in the Gospel. so as of that moment they ARE saved
Do you agree with that ?
True indeed. But God changes hearts for those who believe Him. Otherwise His promise Acts 16:31 would be a lie.
Ezekiel 11:17-20
17 Therefore say, 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "I will gather you from the peoples, assemble you from the countries where you have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel." ' 18 And they will go there, and they will take away all its detestable things and all its abominations from there. 19 Then I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within them, and take the stony heart out of their flesh, and give them a heart of flesh, 20 that they may walk in My statutes and keep My judgments and do them; and they shall be My people, and I will be their God.
Satan has invaded pulpits in churches to STEAL God's promises from His children.
That's interesting.
The gospel is adapted to the audience.
The message for the circ, and the message for the uncirc.
The message for the circ, takes into account their Jewishness.
The message for the uncirc, takes into account their non-Jewishness.
And STV continues to DODGE Christian questions. How many threads have you started here STV? Do you need a calculator?
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God's promises are only for His people who believe His promises.
Acts 16:31, Gospel Eph 1:13, 1 Cor 15:1-4 teaches that a person IS saved/sealed/justified if they place their trust in the Gospel. so as of that moment they ARE saved
Do you agree with that ?
Thanks for your other commentary.
"True indeed"
A simple yes or no is fine :)
- Confirming that you accept & believe that the INSTANT someone 'today' believes & accepts the Gospel as taught in Acts 16:31, Eph 1:13, 1 Cor 15:1-4 they ARE saved & sealed.
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Are you aware of any teachings from Paul (Rom-Philemon) that teaches a believer can become UNsaved or UNsealed ?
If so, please list the verses.
Deborah_
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Surely that would be the gospel for the circumcised and the gospel for the uncircumcised, i.e. two different gospels?
Whereas Peter and Paul preached the same gospel (Acts 15:11) - although with different slants, appropriate for different audiences. There's no difference between the gospel in Acts 2 (as preached by Peter) and I Corinthians 15:1-4, and no indication in Paul's letters that the Jewish and Gentile sections of the churches he wrote to had been given different gospels.
Deborah_
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And yet today we continue to preach to unbelievers in the same way that we have preached for centuries - assuming that, like the Jews, they have a background understanding of God and of sin. Whereas we should be preaching as if to pagans, calling out idolatry and emphasising the kingship of Christ.
Preaching the Gospel
Acts 2:37-39 One of the most striking things about the evangelistic sermons recorded in the book of Acts is the difference in emphasis between 1st-century and 21st-century evangelism. The most impo…
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Would like to tag @Bible Highlighter as, he is very well read in bible versions.
Some 45 years ago when I was ministering in a Jewish community we used a Five Spiritual Laws booklet as a tract.
There was a Four Spiritual Laws booklet for gentiles. The Jews apparently needed a bit more convincing. - LOL
Peter gospel for the circumcised
Paul gospel for the uncircumcised
Paul's Gospel - Eph 1:13, 1 Cor 15:1-4
Peters Gospel in early Acts.
""There's no difference between the gospel in...""" ????
Here's 2 :-
Peter - Acts 8:17 laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
Paul - Eph 1:13 .. the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Peter - laid hands to receive HS
Paul - Believe Gospel to be sealed with HS
Where does Paul's Gospel teach LAID HANDS to receive the HS.
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Peter Acts 2:38-45
44.. had all things common;
45..And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
Where does Paul's Gospel teach the same ?
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This might help :)
The Gospel of the Kingdom - doctrine.org
The gospel for our day is the gospel of the grace of God (Acts 20.24). The word “gospel” (εὐαγγέλιον) means “good news”. The ascended, glorified Lord revealed this gospel to the Apostle Paul. The clearest definition of it is from Paul’s…
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What is the difference between the gospel to the Jews and the gospel to the gentiles?
There is a biblical warning about not preaching any OTHER gospel. But it seems that there was a gospel message to the Jews and a gospel message to the gentiles. Because the two audiences were completely different. - The Jews, of course were expecting a Messiah. The gentiles weren't. - The Jews...
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Deborah_
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Acts 19:6
But worth noting that both Acts 8 and Acts 19 describe unusual situations, not the standard practice. The passages describe what happened, but don't teach it as normative.
What is normative today >>Eph 1:13
Whose teachings are they ? Paul
Who teaches Salvation for believers today ? Paul
Who says ?
Acts 9:15, Acts 15:6-25, Gal 2:7-9, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16
Stick with RIGHTLY DIVIDED Scripture = no more confusion or guessing :)
Deborah_
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Has always been, for all believers, Jewish and Gentile.
But don't divide the gospel! There's only one!
