Are Protestants "saved? "

[Joseph77]

Jesus makes it clear that our works DO give us something in return. It gives us “salvation in heaven “

The payment, as in "give us something" - the result of the works of sin, is death.

 

[Marymog]

Not "in error". Any error revealed is repented of/ changed/ so as never to be in error ongoing, like your decisions continue to be. So, like me,
Repent (change) , come out of the error you have lived in for however long, or you cannot believe ANYTHING Jesus says in His Word.

Thank you

 

[Marymog]

your comprehension skills are suspect

If I ever talk to you in such a degrading way please bring it to my attention.

Mary

 

[Nancy]

What do you mean The Bereans would have gone home and checked those very scriptures? They were already in the synagogue where the scrolls are kept . They didn’t carry a Bible back and forth from home to church.

And then you quote the passage about the Thessalonians to prove your point when we aren’t even talking about them. You have me confused.

Is it fair to say that Paul and Silas read a passage from the OT and then told the Bereans how Jesus fulfilled that passage? Is that what you are saying?

Either way, whether Paul and Silas were preaching from memory, or directly from the scrolls should make zero difference...the Bereans were being taught both from the scrolls and about the Gospel orally since nothing was written yet. The Bereans checked daily to see if those things Paul said were true. Who really cares if they were reading scrolls at home or at the synagogue, I wasn't there.

 

[Marymog]

Either way, whether Paul and Silas were preaching from memory, or directly from the scrolls should make zero difference...the Bereans were being taught both from the scrolls and about the Gospel orally since nothing was written yet. The Bereans checked daily to see if those things Paul said were true. Who really cares if they were reading scrolls at home or at the synagogue, I wasn't there.

You are right. It doesn’t matter if they were reading the scrolls at home. My point was you suggested they were. What you suggested is not in scripture. That’s the point.

Thank you for your time.

 

[Yehren]

it’s the gospel that matters.

Ask Jesus:

He says that what matters is loving God and loving your neighbor, and doing the will of the Father.

That's the Gospel. Your theology will not save you. Doing what Jesus says will save you.

 

[Joseph77]

If I ever talk to you in such a degrading way please bring it to my attention.

Mary

If the teachings of the false church from rome can be left behind, that would be good for everyone .....

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You stated: If you think your righteous works offered to God for your sin is anything other than filthy rags, your sadly mistaken.

Jesus makes it clear that our works DO give us something in return. It gives us “salvation in heaven “

Offered to God in payment for your sin, do I need to repost it for you,or will you acknowledge your error?

please learn to read.

Yes we do works for something in return

gold silver precious stone, wood hay straw, crowns and other things

salvation is not one of them, salvation is by Grace Alone

your trying to be saved by works, you will fail, period

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Ask Jesus:

He says that what matters is loving God and loving your neighbor, and doing the will of the Father.

That's the Gospel. Your theology will not save you. Doing what Jesus says will save you.

Yep he does, but no that’s not the gospel. That how we are sanctified, the gospel is the good news of a Jesus who saves us and gives us his spirit, in doing this, the capacity to love.

 

[Joseph77]

Yes we do works for something in return

Ekklesia in the New Testament, and in the Old Testament, can , and do, and did, do works, without expecting anything in return for the works - giving to a blind man, a disabled woman, a poor family, and so forth.

And the works resulting from SHEER JOY OF SALVATION ! , without effort, with all one's heart and soul and mind and strength,

are simply out of sheer joy of salvation ! JESUS DIED FOR US (EKKLESIA) ! How can we not do all the Father says to do !?

We BELONG, completely , to Him, when WITH HIS BLOOD we ARE PURCHASED by HIM. We ARE HIS.

 

[Marymog]

If the teachings of the false church from rome can be left behind, that would be good for everyone .....

Thank ya troll

 

[Joseph77]

Thank ya troll

You do realize, right, that rejecting Jesus as rome does, makes those who follow rome to be the sons of disobedience ?
Not those who speak God's Word, revealing the truth.
And those who follow rome, instead of following Jesus, call the true followers of Jesus many names, including troll.... ?

 

[Marymog]

Offered to God in payment for your sin, do I need to repost it for you,or will you acknowledge your error?

please learn to read.

Yes we do works for something in return

gold silver precious stone, wood hay straw, crowns and other things

salvation is not one of them, salvation is by Grace Alone

your trying to be saved by works, you will fail, period

You are a very confusing person. On one hand you say we do works for something in return but then say I will fail if I try to be saved by works. I think you are saying we are not saved by works alone? If that is what you are saying I agree with you and I have never contested that

 

[Marymog]

You do realize, right, that rejecting Jesus as rome does, makes those who follow rome to be the sons of disobedience ?
Not those who speak God's Word, revealing the truth.
And those who follow rome, instead of following Jesus, call the true followers of Jesus many names, including troll.... ?

Rabid

 

[Joseph77]

"Joseph77 said: ↑
Not "in error". Any error revealed is repented of/ changed/ so as never to be in error ongoing, like your decisions continue to be. So, like me,
Repent (change) , come out of the error you have lived in for however long, or you cannot believe ANYTHING Jesus says in His Word.
Thank you"

Good if repentant. As Jesus the Lord and Master and Judge and Savior Says Today: "you all will likewise perish, unless you

repent" .

 

[Yehren]

Yep he does, but no that’s not the gospel.

Perhaps you don't know what "gospel" means.

gos·pel
/ˈɡäspəl/
noun
noun: gospel; noun: Gospel; plural noun: Gospels; noun: gospel music; plural noun: gospel musics

1. the teaching or revelation of Christ. "it is the Church's mission to preach the gospel"
2. the record of Jesus' life and teaching in the first four books of the New Testament.

 

[Yehren]

Rabid

No. Merely deeply indoctrinated into legalism.

 

[Joseph77]

Define "legalism", then prove it. (what you posted in error)

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Perhaps you don't know what "gospel" means.

gos·pel
/ˈɡäspəl/
noun
noun: gospel; noun: Gospel; plural noun: Gospels; noun: gospel music; plural noun: gospel musics

1. the teaching or revelation of Christ. "it is the Church's mission to preach the gospel"
2. the record of Jesus' life and teaching in the first four books of the New Testament.

A gospel is a declaration, when a governor would make an announcement, they would declare an euangelio of good news to his town.

the gospel of Jesus is good news that he has paid the debt of sin, and restored mankind to God

So it is you who does not understand

 

[Eternally Grateful]

No. Merely deeply indoctrinated into legalism.

Legalism is a term given to those who attempt to gain Gods salvation by a set of legalistic ritualistic terms

you can not even interpret that right,