As a Christian, do you think the world is unable to distinguish between good and evil?

[soberxp]

I bring up this topic because when most Christians disagree with the world on a certain position of good and evil.

 

[Chrysostomos]

The crowd is perfectly capable of distinguishing between good and evil, and it's precisely this ability that enables them to consistently choose evil with near-perfect precision.

 

[ScottA]

I bring up this topic because when most Christians disagree with the world on a certain position of good and evil.

The world (all people) know the difference between good and evil, especially Christians.

 

[Chrysostomos]

If people were truly unable to distinguish between good and evil, how do we explain their consistent, unerring choice of evil over good, and their relentless efforts to destroy what is good?

Why do they, across all times and places, unfailingly support and empower evildoers while seeking to eliminate the righteous?

How is it that they never, not once, anywhere, make a mistake?

They always mistake evildoers for the righteous and the righteous for evildoers. Why, throughout all of human history, have they never once gotten it wrong?

 

[soberxp]

If people were truly unable to distinguish between good and evil, how do we explain their consistent, unerring choice of evil over good, and their relentless efforts to destroy what is good?

Why do they, across all times and places, unfailingly support and empower evildoers while seeking to eliminate the righteous?

How is it that they never, not once, anywhere, make a mistake?

They always mistake evildoers for the righteous and the righteous for evildoers. Why, throughout all of human history, have they never once gotten it wrong?

But on the question of Israel, what I see is that most people are in a different position from many Christians, They sympathize with and support Palestinian statehood.

Like it's a biblical prophecy or God's will.

The Book of Ezekiel
35:10 Because thou hast said, These two nations and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess it; whereas the LORD was there:

35:11 Therefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will even do according to thine anger, and according to thine envy which thou hast used out of thy hatred against them; and I will make myself known among them, when I have judged thee.

 

[Chrysostomos]

But on the question of Israel, what I see is that most people are in a different position from many Christians, They sympathize with and support Palestinian statehood.

Like it's a biblical prophecy or God's will.

The Book of Ezekiel
35:10 Because thou hast said, These two nations and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess it; whereas the LORD was there:

35:11 Therefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will even do according to thine anger, and according to thine envy which thou hast used out of thy hatred against them; and I will make myself known among them, when I have judged thee.

In the context of your post, the question arises: why do some people, when faced with two evils, occasionally choose the lesser one? It happens sometimes—when people must pick between two evils, they opt for one.

But notice this: there are so-called Christian Zionists who, even when choosing between two evils, unfailingly select the greater, absolute evil without error.

Notice that there isn't even a properly framed question on the agenda right now.

 

[jasonlacrosse]

The human heart knows the difference between good and evil. We are born with that capability. Then we are constantly presented with choices on which to choose. The human brain is not as well equipped for this same task - this discernment comes from the heart.

 

[lforrest]

The crowd is perfectly capable of distinguishing between good and evil, and it's precisely this ability that enables them to consistently choose evil with near-perfect precision.

This is a good point, the wicked choose evil very consistently. This consistency proves an ability to discern. It's like a rumor I heard of someone taking the SATs ( a test for those looking to enter University in the USA) and they did so badly on the test that randomly choosing from the multiple choice questions would yield a better result. They supposedly gave him some sort of credit for it because by doing so badly it proved that he understood the questions.

I would normally disagree, because by rejecting God, they reject the truth. And rejecting the truth has resulted in the strong delusion (paraphrasing). They believe 'the lie,' which I believe to be the lie of old, that you can be as God. Subjective morality becomes subjective reality in pursuit of authority over God's design. But when reality doesn't bend to them they prove themselves to be delusional.

 

[marks]

I bring up this topic because when most Christians disagree with the world on a certain position of good and evil.

Without the Holy Spirit, and in the corruption of their flesh, no, I think that those of the world are not able to correctly discern right and wrong, but are blinded by self-interest.

Much love!

 

[soberxp]

The human heart knows the difference between good and evil. We are born with that capability. Then we are constantly presented with choices on which to choose. The human brain is not as well equipped for this same task - this discernment comes from the heart.

Many people don't think we inherited the knowledge of the tree of good and evil that Adam and Eve ate, but I know I knew the meaning of a word when I was a child.

chicken, sometimes it can be means whore，
When I was very young, there were no sex workers in the socialist countries, and I had no knowledge of these things, But when I hear a mysterious voice, said, someone's a chicken,
I knew immediately that I understood the meaning and felt weak.

 

[soberxp]

Without the Holy Spirit, and in the corruption of their flesh, no, I think that those of the world are not able to correctly discern right and wrong, but are blinded by self-interest.

Much love!

But I don't think it's absolute, or Christians wouldn't be able to go from no faith to faith, but some might say it's God's call, but I'm not sure

 

[soberxp]

In the context of your post, the question arises: why do some people, when faced with two evils, occasionally choose the lesser one? It happens sometimes—when people must pick between two evils, they opt for one.

But notice this: there are so-called Christian Zionists who, even when choosing between two evils, unfailingly select the greater, absolute evil without error.

Notice that there isn't even a properly framed question on the agenda right now.
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I don't want to be told that talking about Israel is hatred of the Jews, I know the teachings of Jesus Christ,
Even love the enemy or the antichrist.

Just as Israel would say with justice that Hamas attacked them first and started the war, that's the knowledge of good and evil, and in a way it's right.

The Palestinians will claim that Israel invaded their country, slaughtered their civilians.

The Unbelievers May choose who to support from different angles.

So are believers really different from non-believers?

When they don't really know what exactly the truth is?

 

[marks]

But I don't think it's absolute, or Christians wouldn't be able to go from no faith to faith, but some might say it's God's call, but I'm not sure

I believe what they call "previent grace", as in Titus, For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, and, He is the true light that enlightens every man, and, If I be lifted up I will draw all men to myself.

I think God opens our mind/heart sufficiently to hear His Gospel and to make a choice.

Much love!

 

[soberxp]

I believe what they call "previent grace", as in Titus, For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, and, He is the true light that enlightens every man, and, If I be lifted up I will draw all men to myself.

I think God opens our mind/heart sufficiently to hear His Gospel and to make a choice.

Much love!

Agree, but I find that the mistakes made by Christians throughout history and now, the false gospel preached by the world, And become an obstacle to turning to God.

 

[marks]

Agree, but I find that the mistakes made by Christians throughout history and now, the false gospel preached by the world, And become an obstacle to turning to God.

Yeah. Even so, I believe God will make sure all who would choose Him have the opportunity to do so, as well as all who won't.

Isaiah 55:10-11 LITV
10) For as the rain and the snow comes down from the heavens and do not return there, except it waters the earth and make it bring forth and bud, and give seed to the sower and bread to the eater,
11) so shall My Word be, which goes out of My mouth; it shall not return to Me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in what I sent it to do!

Much love!

 

[soberxp]

This is a good point, the wicked choose evil very consistently. This consistency proves an ability to discern. It's like a rumor I heard of someone taking the SATs ( a test for those looking to enter University in the USA) and they did so badly on the test that randomly choosing from the multiple choice questions would yield a better result. They supposedly gave him some sort of credit for it because by doing so badly it proved that he understood the questions.

I would normally disagree, because by rejecting God, they reject the truth. And rejecting the truth has resulted in the strong delusion (paraphrasing). They believe 'the lie,' which I believe to be the lie of old, that you can be as God. Subjective morality becomes subjective reality in pursuit of authority over God's design. But when reality doesn't bend to them they prove themselves to be delusional.

I think it's just that the truth is misunderstood by everyone, and if we don't think about anything, we just speak according to the words of the Bible, If you believe in Jesus, you can be saved,

exodus 4:12
Now therefore go, and I will be with thy mouth, and teach thee what thou shalt say.

When people misunderstand the concept that everyone is guilty, no one wants to admit that he is a criminal,

Everyone is guilty because everyone is somewhat unobedient to God's word, such as loving your enemies.

 

[lforrest]

I think it's just that the truth is misunderstood by everyone, and if we don't think about anything, we just speak according to the words of the Bible, If you believe in Jesus, you can be saved,

exodus 4:12
Now therefore go, and I will be with thy mouth, and teach thee what thou shalt say.

When people misunderstand the concept that everyone is guilty, no one wants to admit that he is a criminal,

Everyone is guilty because everyone is somewhat unobedient to God's word, such as loving your enemies.

Breaking one part of the law is as breaking the whole thing. We are not under the law as gentiles but all who come to Jesus have been convicted of their sins by the Holy Spirit.

One can be in love with the Spirit of Truth, even if they do not fully know the truth. He who seeks shall find. But If someone doesn't love the Truth they are going to remain liars. We are told that liars will be cast into the lake of fire.

 

[Chrysostomos]

I don't want to be told that talking about Israel is hatred of the Jews, I know the teachings of Jesus Christ,
Even love the enemy or the antichrist.

Just as Israel would say with justice that Hamas attacked them first and started the war, that's the knowledge of good and evil, and in a way it's right.

The Palestinians will claim that Israel invaded their country, slaughtered their civilians.

The Unbelievers May choose who to support from different angles.

So are believers really different from non-believers?

When they don't really know what exactly the truth is?

You're quoting my message, but it looks like you haven't actually read it.

 

[Behold]

I bring up this topic because when most Christians disagree with the world on a certain position of good and evil.

The "world" serves its own purpose..... So if you are in the world..........of the world, then you are self serving, and are only out for yourself.
You are a pragmatist. You believe in situation ethics.

If you are "not of the world".. a born again Believer.... then you are to be heavenly minded.......and you are to pursue God's viewpoint, and His viewpoint is to love, to serve, and to persist in righteousness.

 

[soberxp]

You're quoting my message, but it looks like you haven't actually read it.

I have been read, but what you are talking about just the blind leading the blind....