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I have taken this article from the book, “The Complete Green Letters,” compiled by Miles J Stanford. It’s from the chapter titled “Help,” page 65. The article is based on the premise that man cannot ask God to help him with anything related to His godly virtues; it’s not like man can do anything to produce any type of power of God—it’s all Him empowering and using the believer.

“God didn’t help us to be saved, and He doesn’t intend to help us live the Christian life.” “The Christian life is not our living a life like Christ, or our trying to be Christ-like, nor is it Christ giving us the power to live a life like His (mimic); but it is Christ Himself living His own life through us; “no longer I, but Christ.“ -MJS

We can live like Christ lived, but we cannot live Christ’s Life, because He “is our life” (Col 3:4). He must live it through the believer.

“Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ” (1Co 11:1). We follow Paul in following the Lord Jesus!




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Can our receiving power from God to live the Christian life constitute Him helping us? No! To assume He is helping us would be to presume that we have a part in effecting some power. Once we understand that we can do nothing but receive, we will be awakened more to the application of the process of all of God’s blessings, especially concerning growth and the strengthening of our faith. If one has a difficulty comprehending this teaching it will have of course no effect on one’s salvation, it only effects the maturity in one’s faith, as all spiritual growth truths do; and faith can only be strengthened, never decreasing from its present level of maturity. Just think of it, the saved being empowered to reach all who are in “the Lamb’s Book of Life” (Rev 21:27); and all who should be saved will be saved.

J E Conant (1866-1955): “Christian living is not our living with Christ’s help, it is Christ living His life in us. Therefore that portion of our lives that is not His living is not Christian living; and that portion of our service that is not His doing is not Christian service (though there will always be times of unintentional sin - Num 15:30; Heb 10:26—NC); for all such life and service have a supernatural and spiritual source.”

William R Newell: (1868- 1956): “Satan’s great device is to drive earnest souls back to beseeching God for what He says has already been done”! Stanford writes, “God could never answer a prayer for help in the matter of justification. The same principle holds true for the Christian life” (though God doesn’t answer according to our way, He guides and enables us how to respond His way—NC).

A W Tozer (1897-1963): “We are forever asking God to do things that He has already done.” We plead for Him to speak when He has already spoken and is at this very moment speaking (God is always working to communicate with us—NC). We ask Him to come when He is already present and waiting for us to recognize Him.”

Watchman Nee (1903- 1972): “God sets us free from the “dominion” of sin, not by strengthening our “old man” (sin nature—NC), but by crucifying him (Ro 6:6); not by helping him to do anything but by removing him from the scene of action” (the old man remains on the Cross concerning believers, and is restrained from causing them to desire sin. Causing one to desire sin is where its dominion lies, because the heart is where our treasure lies (Luk 12:34—NC).

S D Gordon (1859–1936): “When you are in the thick of the fight . . . plead less and claim more.” I do not mean ask God to give you victory, but claim His victory.”

Andrew Murray (1828–1917): “”Even though it is slow, and with many a stumble (Jas 3:2), the faith that always thanks Him—not for experiences, but for the promises on which it can rely—goes on “from strength to strength” (Psa 84:7), still increasing in the blessed assurance that God Himself will perfect His work is us (there is not a single one reborn that will not be made perfect - Phl 1:6; Heb 12:23—NC).
 

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I have taken this article from the book, “The Complete Green Letters,” compiled by Miles J Stanford. It’s from the chapter titled “Help,” page 65. The article is based on the premise that man cannot ask God to help him with anything related to His godly virtues; it’s not like man can do anything to produce any type of power of God—it’s all Him empowering and using the believer.

“God didn’t help us to be saved, and He doesn’t intend to help us live the Christian life.” “The Christian life is not our living a life like Christ, or our trying to be Christ-like, nor is it Christ giving us the power to live a life like His (mimic); but it is Christ Himself living His own life through us; “no longer I, but Christ.“ -MJS

We can live like Christ lived, but we cannot live Christ’s Life, because He “is our life” (Col 3:4). He must live it through the believer.

“Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ” (1Co 11:1). We follow Paul in following the Lord Jesus!




Assist, or Enable

Can our receiving power from God to live the Christian life constitute Him helping us? No! To assume He is helping us would be to presume that we have a part in effecting some power. Once we understand that we can do nothing but receive...
I appreciate the sentiment, but it gets somewhat garbled in my thinking when we engage in too much semantical differentiation. When we say we can *do nothing* but receive, obviously that ignores the fact we do indeed *do* some things.

We receive Christ. We obey Christ. We embrace Salvation, and we choose to live out that Salvation. So we indeed *do things.* We receive it, which is an essential part of our "doing" it.

So I think what's being said is that what we "do" cannot be isolated from what Christ is doing. As Jesus said, "I do what I see my Father doing." As for us, we do what we see Christ doing in us.

Is there any role for our own independent judgment in this? No. Independent living has been crucified. We have chosen to live by Christ alone. This is where we agree.

Does this mean that Christ has replaced our will? No, our will has now been attached to the will of Christ, and everything we choose to do has to be sanctioned by Christ.

Does this mean we have no freedom? No, but the things we choose to do must be run by Christ, to ensure it is done by his Spirit, in accord with his will. This is the only way I can express this and be true to my own personal experience.

So I do get and like the main point, that apart from Christ our works are vain in terms of obtaining Eternal Life. There is a residual element of God's Spirit in us as human beings because we were created in God's image. We can in fact do good. We can, in some measure, please God even without complete commitment to Christ.

But in making a full commitment to Christ we not only choose to please God on occasion--we choose to dispose of the independent nature, and put on Christ's nature, choosing to live in him all the time, to do good all the time.

In the world people do perform good deeds. But this won't get them into God's Kingdom unless they give up on the rebellious flesh. There can't be division in God's Kingdom.

There's only one God, and He isn't part time. When we commit completely to Christ, we become truly Christian, and our natures are changed so that we can be permanent members of "Heaven."

We don't have to eliminate who we are, our own individuality, our own tastes and preferences--not especially our own will and judgment. But in choosing Christ as our Deity, we have chosen to sacrifice all of our preferences to recognition of God's word as the highest authority over all of our value system.

We choose in accord with God's holiness, and yield to Him if He wishes to override our will. "Lord, take this cup from me. But if not, thy will be done." This is a fine line, but I feel I have to make it in these kinds of discussions. We do live exclusively by God's Spirit, but God does allow us to make individual, though not independent in the form of rebellious decisions.

I suppose we need to distinguish between "independent" and "rebellious" in order to explain how we can live in God's Spirit and still make personal decisions. I do not believe that God treats us like robots, except that at times He will command us to experience certain things that we do not wish to experience.

God bless.
 

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I appreciate the sentiment, but it gets somewhat garbled in my thinking when we engage in too much semantical differentiation. When we say we can *do nothing* but receive, obviously that ignores the fact we do indeed *do* some things.
This is in reference to godly virtues. We can only receive God's power to be saved, but cannot produce any of HIs power ourselves concerning justification, righteousness, sanctification, etc. These are the blessings He enables us to use and live by, but we cannot produce them and they only come from Him.