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Australian Prophecies, Part 2

Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by Hidden In Him, May 22, 2020.

  1. Hidden In Him

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    Hi, jumping in here . . .

    A lot of this has to do with biochemical and electrical processes. When you get into the different neurotransmitters, what they do in the body and brain, and what changes their activity, this answers quite a lot I think. Feelings of familiarity are how we describe a certain electro-chemical configuration in the brain. The opposite, seeing something familiar but not recognizing it, describes a non-functioning electro-chemical state.

    An interesting fact is that epilepsy can bring episodes of deja vu particularly with a seizure.

    Normally matching something to a memory triggers that electro-chemical state, but other things can create it also.

    Feelings of deja vu that persist during development but diminish or disappear upon maturity is indicative of immature physiology balancing as it matures. I remember things like that with me, that seemed to stabilize around 24 or so.

    Much is made of dream interpretation. I've been reading a lot on "memory consolidation" that occurs during REM sleep. This is how they are preventing PTSD, is to keep the traumatized person awake for 24 hours to prevent REM sleep, and that during the dream state is when we assign locations in the brain to store our memories. Trauma memories are moved from short term and mid term to long term, and if allowed to do that during dream sleep, they get moved to the emotionally charged memory storage, and all the emotional memory is added to it. So that when something triggers the memory, instead of a mere recollection, you get the entire full experience flashed back at you.

    But when you prevent the dream state during that first 24 hours, then the memory misses that cycle, gets moved into long term with all the other miscellaneous stuff, but without all the energy.

    But I digress!

    Sorry! Always an interesting topic to me, dreams! I've been a lucid dreamer all my life. If there's something I haven't dreamed I can't imagine it!

    Much love!
     
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    Interesting... Seeing you seem to know a bit about what science has to say i'd like to ask you a few questions.

    What is the most popular theory science has for dreams? Do u think that can have a meaning?

    How is it possible to dream about something we have never seen before? Im not talking about places and faces that we don't recognize, im talking about places and faces that aren't from this world.

    And, what are your thoughts on hallucinations?
     
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    I'll take the easiest one first!

    :)

    Layman's perspective only!

    I don't know how it's possible, but I think the imagination is incredibly detailed and inventive. And the speed at which the brain can operate during REM sleep, as the brain is brought up in activity while the body, and the sensory input, is not, is incredible.

    While this doesn't answer directly, anecdotally this shows the available computing power. I woke up from a dream one day and was able to remember 2 weeks of time I had just lived through in my dream. I was living by myself in an apartment about 40 miles from my home. I was across from a small market where I did most my shopping. I was able to walk the 2 miles to work, on the same main street. 2 doors down was an old and small movie theater, where I had seen 3 movies. I had dozed off, and awoke within 5 minutes, but very disoriented, having had this different life for a couple of weeks.

    I've dreamed of fighting in the resistance against alien invaders, face to face with them, of clawing my way out of subterranean caverns of necromancy and palpable evil. My favorite are the flying dreams. I remember my first one when I was 10. I've flown to other planets, and planetary chunks.

    I've had dreams that I spent the next 3 days spending every available moment to write down every last detail.

    Of course, I've also been a reader from about 3 years old, with lots of SciFi, Lovecraft, Poe, to fuel my imagination.

    I've had apocalyptic dreams, pretty wild ones. I can just imagine how someone would interpret these.

    But two short answers. We have incredibly powerful minds, and these are virtually unleashed in our sleep into a realm we seldom see, and less understand.

    I don't know how popular the memory consolidation theory is, but it sure seems to me this accounts for a significant portion of what is happening in our dreams.

    The seeming randomness of dreaming is our experiencing the neural connections being made between fresh memory and preserved memories. Some parts of our dreams make sense, some don't, as all this information is flitting about in our brains.

    I remember a dream when I was 17 that I woke up, and gone on to do things, 7 times within that dream. By the 4th or 5th time I was telling the people with me what a strange dream I'd just had, that I had woken up over and over, and then I woke up, and went into our kitchen, and was telling my mother what a strange dream I'd just had. It took about 45 minutes or so of waiting to see if I was going to "wake up" before I felt sure I had.

    I don't know what can explain a dream like that. I mean except @Hidden In Him . ;) I think some of this is the mind's desire to create.

    I said a significant portion because I also think that dreams can be a way we communicate with ourselves, and work things out, again, our "dream perceptions" being all over the map as neural pathways are firing, but when we wake up in the morning we've found a new resolve, or a different solution, or,

    That God can and just might be communicating to us in our dreams.

    And if He is, then my question is this . . . Does He communicate with us to be understood? Or to be mystified? I think to be understood.

    Much love!
     
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    Not sure what you are looking for here.
     
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    Well, I can guess; I think you said a few things about your childhood. But where were you spiritually at age 17 ?
     
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    What, I'm going to answer for you? And then there is the rest of the dream.

    :)
     
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    And, what are your thoughts on hallucinations?
    I thought u may of had some knowledge of hallucinations given it's connection with sleep/dreams but that's ok.

    Thanks for your reply, I found it interesting
     
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    OK. Not really, no. I've never had them, other than those minor momentary I thought I saw . . .

    I've never really researched hallucinations, could be interesting!

    Much love!
     
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    LoL. Ok, you keep that to yourself then. Or maybe it will just be between you and me, LoL.


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    Im not talking about "did i just see" moments, no. U might think they're only something people have when taking drugs but its not the case
    I read that almost everyone has at least one experience of sleep paralysis or sleep hallucination, I did.
    That's why im interested in what people think

    @Hidden In Him do u want to read about my sleep hallucinations?
     
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    I'm not sure what a sleep hallucination is, actually. But if you describe it in detail maybe I'll learn something.
     
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    A hallucination is defined as perceiving the presence of an object or an event through any of the five senses (sight, smell, taste, touch, or hearing) without the actual object or event existing or occurring.

    Sleep related hallucinations are a parasomnia.
    They generally occur at one of the two following times:
    • As you are about to fall asleep (hypnagogic)
    • As you are just waking up (hypnopompic)
    A person will experience vivid hallucinations as they fall asleep, or just before falling asleep.
    A person may also feel as if they are moving while their body is still.
    This sensation could be a feeling of falling or flying.

    The most common hypnagogic hallucinations are visual. They may include images of people, animals, or moving objects.
    During a hypnagogic hallucination, a person knows that they are awake. The images, sounds, or other sensations may last a number of minutes. They may prevent a person from falling asleep.

    These hallucinations may happen at the same time as sleep paralysis.

    The key difference between a dream and a hypnagogic hallucination is that the hallucination will feel very real.
    A person may feel sure that they have seen or felt something, and this can be frightening or confusing.
    They create strong, intricate visual images in the mind that may be distorted in an unrealistic way.
    As a result, these hallucinations often cause fear. In some cases, they can even cause you to jump out of bed or accidentally injure yourself.
     
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    Ok. That's helpful. Describe some of your own experiences then. Maybe your most recent ones.
     
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    I was thinking about this more last night.

    I wasn't thinking about sleep hallucinations, but I've had those too.

    What occurred to me last night was regarding PTSD and flashbacks, these are hallucinations brought about by physiological factors.

    But sleep hallucinations, yes, I've had those. Never very extreme. My most common one is that I'm falling down onto my bed as I'm waking up. But I've also had others.

    One particularly interesting time is that I was in the middle of a very bad dream when I heard my wife say my name, which awoke me instantly. Wide awake, still hearing the ring of her voice. She wasn't in the room.

    My very first lucid dream that I remember was when I wa about 4 or 5, and it was the running as if through glue till I couldn't move my legs anymore.

    Stuff like that.

    I've known people who have had much more extreme sleep hallucinations however, so I know they can get pretty wild.

    Much love!
     
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    I'm just curious about someone who before 'interpretting' my dream wants to quiz me about myself at the time.

    These are just dreams. Nothing to see here.

    Much love!
     
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    It's because dream interpretation and word of knowledge are two separate gifts. Word of knowledge is what occurs when you know things about a person's life without them or anyone else telling you, as the Spirit of God gives you revelation concerning them. Interpretation of dreams is much like the interpretation of scripture. It is taking all available information, and through guidance of the Holy Spirit combining all the relevant information into the coherent message that is being communicated.

    Two separate gifts, although many get confused and equate the two because there was one instance in scripture where both were in operation at the same time, specifically Daniel's receiving by divine revelation both a dream and its interpretation (Daniel 2:2-9). But the norm is for the dream to be told to the interpreter first (Genesis 41:8, 12, 17).

    Understand something, however. Dreams like the one above that have to do with world events are actually easier to interpret than personal dreams, because they often require no searching for background information other than sometimes requesting further details on the dream itself. The vast majority of the dreams I post publicly are of this category. However, when it comes to personal dreams, you are off into a world where you have no knowledge about someone's personal life whatsoever. So what happens is you get a sense about what a dream means but with absolutely nothing to go on in the real world. The responsible interpreter thus has to start asking pointed questions to confirm that what he is sensing about their personal life is true. In my experience, what I sense is nearly always confirmed, but I stopped just assuming things without asking questions a long time ago. It is spiritually irresponsible to go around showing off by guessing, when occasionally what appears to be being talked about actually isn't actually what is being referenced in the dream.
     
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    Word of knowledge is a spiritual gift taught in the Bible. "Dream Interpretation" is not, so presenting it as if it were is incorrect.

    The "norm" in Scripture is for God to communicate clearly in dreams. Not in symbols, no mystery, clear communication. Abimelech, Laban, Jacob, Joseph, the magi, Paul, Solomon, that's who I can think of. To some gentiles, God gave dreams they didn't understand. And gave clear and correct interpretations.

    To Joseph God gave dreams in symbols, but he knew what they meant. No one needed interpret.

    Daniel received a vision in the night, a dream apparently, but also a vision, that he didn't understand, but he wasn't supposed to. Some was explained to him, but by the messenger that spoke with him in the vision. The rest was left unexplained.

    Even Pilate's wife sent word to her husband, have nothing to do with this just man. I've suffered many things in dreams today because of Him! Something like that. We're given no information of what it was she dreamed, but she understood enough to get the message to Pilate.

    Sounds rather subjective. And "learned". Just like "teaching" someone to "prophesy". I don't see spiritual gifts that way. It sounds more like you have a "method" of dream interpretation, but not something taught in the Bible.

    Much love!
     
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    That's fine. Doesn't really concern me if others call it a gift or not. All I know is that I wasn't born with it.
    Been through this with Oscarr numerous times, so it's a rehashing of an old discussion that I don't have time to get into again at present. But thanks for the offer. Maybe another time. I'm willing to accept that others hold to opposing views.

    God bless
     
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    This is a long message, but Selveraj delivered the following message before the gay vote took place in 2017. The Lord's word to Australia was that it would be visited with an iron hand by God if the gay bill passed, since what would follow would be gross sin coming upon the nation (10:50 - 16:21 and 37:37 - 40:25). This iron hand would/will manifest in natural disasters such as massive brush fires (some of which you have already experienced I believe), and earthquakes and floods. I can't remember where in this prophecy, but maybe I can find it later. The promise of God, however, is that if some rise up as great intercessors in the Lord, Australia will instead experience the great revival that was promised in the past (103:58 - 112:00).

    Hope this blesses someone and calls them to prayer and intercession.
    Hidden

     
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