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The parable teaches about the final harvest of Israel, and the establishment of the Christ's rule on David's throne upon his return (Matthew 25:31, 16:27, 19:28, 24:46-47, Luke 12:35-44, 19:11-27, and Revelation 2:25-26, 3:21, 11:18, 22:12).
You're ridiculous and mendacious. He's my king and I know him better because I know he returns to sit on his throne,
Jerry, Jerry, Jerry. When are the tares and goats cast into the fire? When Jesus returns at the end of the age or 1,000+ years later? It indicates that it occurs when He returns at the end of the age (Matt 25:31-46, Matt 13:36-43). The tares and goats being cast into the everlasting fire is the same event as those whose names are not written in the book of life being cast into the lake of fire. That happens after the thousand years and since other scripture shows unbelievers being cast into the fire at Christ's return at the end of the age, that places His return at the end of the age after the thousand years.The parable teaches about the final harvest of Israel, and the establishment of the Christ's rule on David's throne upon his return (Matthew 25:31, 16:27, 19:28, 24:46-47, Luke 12:35-44, 19:11-27, and Revelation 2:25-26, 3:21, 11:18, 22:12).
The tares would be those who come in and teach amill!
I am not lying at all. I'm going by what you say. You said He doesn't reign in His kingdom now, so He is NOT your King right now. He's not a king without a kingdom.You're ridiculous and mendacious. He's my king and I know him better because I know he returns to sit on his throne,
Matthew 25
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne.
LOL. So, what else were the many who he said disagreed with him about his Premill belief believing then, if not Amill?
Tsk, tsk, tsk, when Christ returns, he brings the saints with him after meeting them in the clouds, their judgment is completed, then he sits on his throne to judge the sheep and the goats. The sheep are not the saints in Matthew 25:31-34. when Christ returns.
Obviously, you do not follow the Lamb wherever he goes. He's seated at his Fathers throne now (Revelation 3:21) and returns to sit on his own (Matthew 25:31). You don't know Christ as well as I do and other Premillennialists.
Yes, they are. They are the resurrected dead in Christ along with those who are alive and remain until His second coming. You have no discernment whatsoever. All people will stand before the judgment seat of Christ (Romans 14:10-12).Tsk, tsk, tsk, when Christ returns, he brings the saints with him after meeting them in the clouds, their judgment is completed, then he sits on his throne to judge the sheep and the goats. The sheep are not the saints Christ returns.
He is my King right now and reigns in His kingdom that did not come with observation (Luke 17:20) and is not of this world (John 18:36). As for you, He cannot be your king because you said He is not reigning right now and He is not a king without a kingdom. You can't possibly follow Him wherever He goes because He's not even your King. You don't know Him at all. Most other Premills do not agree with you that He doesn't reign at all right now because they recognize that He is King over His spiritual kingdom right now. They just don't believe that is the kingdom He reigns over for a thousand years and think that is an earthly kingdom instead.Obviously, you do not follow the Lamb wherever he goes. He's seated at his Fathers throne now (Revelation 3:21) and returns to sit on his own (Matthew 25:31). You don't know Christ as well as I do and other Premillennialists.
Hogwash. If the sheep in Matthew 25 were Christians of this age they wouldn't need to be introduced to Christ. First Thessalonians 4 affirms we meet Christ in the air, not on earth. Do your homework.
Foolishness! David was anointed king some 20 years before he ruled. You don't know Christ or the scriptures. You certainly don't know him as well as Premillennialists do.
Hogwash yourself. What are you even talking about here when you say "introduced to Christ"?
Foolishness! He was not king until he actually ruled as king. You don't know Christ or the scriptures at all. Did you miss what I said about most Premills? They don't agree with you that He doesn't reign right now in any way, shape or form. Many Premills recognize that He reigns now over His spiritual kingdom that did not come with observation and is not of this world and they believe He will rule over an earthly kingdom when He returns. So, those Premills at least know Jesus better than you do, if you even know Him at all.Foolishness! David was anointed king some 20 years before he ruled. You don't know Christ or the scriptures. You certainly don't know him as well as Premillennialists do.
Again, hogwash! As usual you’re trying to side-step the issue and change the subject when your ignorance is exposed. We can’t have Christ returning to judge the saints on earth, when they’ve already been judged worth to meet him in the clouds when he returns (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17).
Again, same to you! Your arguments are WEAK!
No, I'm not. You accomplish nothing by lying.
Why not? Do you not know that we all will stand before the judgment seat of Christ to give an account of ourselves?
This is not talking about the judgment where everyone will stand before the judgment seat of Christ to give an account of themselves. That verse was talking about judgment beginning at that time. It's talking about how God disciplines those He loves, so judgment starts with us in that sense.
That's what I say to you.
No, they are among the sheep who will inherit eternal life in the kingdom prepared for Christ's people from the foundation of the world. Hello? You're trying to create a third group of people unknown to scripture. Jesus said "He who is not with me is against me" (Matthew 12:30). The sheep are those who are with Jesus, including the least of these His brothers, and the goats are those who are against Him.
Nonsense! The sheep are said to inherit eternal life in the kingdom prepared for them from the foundation of the world! How can you say they are not brothers with Christ? That's insane! You are clueless!
You’re just evading the point the dead and the living meet Christ in the clouds to receive their reward of eternal life, which they are JUDGED worthy of before they return with him to earth. That doesn’t conflict with confessing their failures subsequently before Christ’s judgment seat.
You are evading the point that we all will stand before the judgment seat of Christ to give an account of ourselves and that is what Matthew 25:31-46 is portraying. Why are you evading that point?
So, you don't believe Jesus when He divides people into only 2 groups: those who are with Him and those who are against Him (Matthew 12:30)? He knew nothing of this third group that you have made up in your imagination.And there is a third group in scripture, to your ignorance,
Isaiah 14:
1 For the LORD will have compassion on Jacob and will again choose Israel, and will set them in their own land, and sojourners will join them and will attach themselves to the house of Jacob.
2 And the peoples will take them and bring them to their place, and the house of Israel will possess them in the LORD's land as male and female slaves. They will take captive those who were their captors, and rule over those who oppressed them.
The sojourners that join to Israel, would be the Gentiles in this age that answer the calling, and the slaves would be those of the nations who are ruled over by Israel, and represent the sheep in Matthew 25. And a number of the slaves are held to have an inheritance in the eternal state for their obedience in observing Tabernacles, which we see in Zechariah 14.
I addressed your bogus interpretation of the judgment seat head on, and you evaded it as usual.
I evade nothing. I already addressed your arguments, so don't lie and say otherwise. You just don't like how I refute your weak arguments. You act like a clown here. How can I take you seriously? Talk about evading. I point out how Jesus thought of people as being in two groups when He said "He who is not with me is against me" (Matt 12:30) and you evade that completely. So, stop being a hypocrite.
See how silly! I cited scripture that proves the nations are at the eternal state and the sheep in Matthew 25 represent the nations, not the bride Jerusalem that returns with Christ to rule with him when he sits on his throne. You like getting a metaphorical theological trouncing, don't you?
LOL. What a delusional clown.See how silly! I cited scripture that proves the nations are at the eternal state and the sheep in Matthew 25 represent the nations, not the bride Jerusalem that returns with Christ to rule with him when he sits on his throne. You like getting a metaphorical theological trouncing, don't you?
Are you done? The sheep in Matthew 25 represent the nations, not the bride Jerusalem.
