I have a question about someone having to be re baptized to join certain churches. I have a daughter-in-law that was of a nondenominational religion. They were going to join a Baptist church and the church said she would have to get re-baptized to join that church. This was there policy, not necessarily scriptural. They went on to say that they are looking at changing that policy since they have had three in the last month come to join under these circumstances. Why is this practiced in some churches? Is there scripture to back this up?
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(setfree;31801)
I have a question about someone having to be re baptized to join certain churches. I have a daughter-in-law that was of a nondenominational religion. They were going to join a Baptist church and the church said she would have to get re-baptized to join that church. This was there policy, not necessarily scriptural. They went on to say that they are looking at changing that policy since they have had three in the last month come to join under these circumstances. Why is this practiced in some churches? Is there scripture to back this up?
No it's not scriptural. It is a man-made teaching. How many teachings is man going to make? Water baptized is essential to the believers because Christ did it, but remember we need the Spirit to teach us, as He will give us rememberanec of all things.I'll stick with Christ only.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
I have a question about someone having to be re baptized to join certain churches. I have a daughter-in-law that was of a nondenominational religion. They were going to join a Baptist church and the church said she would have to get re-baptized to join that church. This was there policy, not necessarily scriptural. They went on to say that they are looking at changing that policy since they have had three in the last month come to join under these circumstances. Why is this practiced in some churches? Is there scripture to back this up?
No it's not scriptural. It is a man-made teaching. How many teachings is man going to make? Water baptized is essential to the believers because Christ did it, but remember we need the Spirit to teach us, as He will give us rememberanec of all things.I'll stick with Christ only.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
(setfree;31801)
I have a question about someone having to be re baptized to join certain churches. I have a daughter-in-law that was of a nondenominational religion. They were going to join a Baptist church and the church said she would have to get re-baptized to join that church. This was there policy, not necessarily scriptural. They went on to say that they are looking at changing that policy since they have had three in the last month come to join under these circumstances. Why is this practiced in some churches? Is there scripture to back this up?
agree with Jag here baptism of water is not even required we are baptised by spirit when we accept Christ water baptism may be preferred by most but technically not necessary so if we are baptised by the spirit when we accept Christ why would re baptism be necessary? Makes no sense to me
I have a question about someone having to be re baptized to join certain churches. I have a daughter-in-law that was of a nondenominational religion. They were going to join a Baptist church and the church said she would have to get re-baptized to join that church. This was there policy, not necessarily scriptural. They went on to say that they are looking at changing that policy since they have had three in the last month come to join under these circumstances. Why is this practiced in some churches? Is there scripture to back this up?
agree with Jag here baptism of water is not even required we are baptised by spirit when we accept Christ water baptism may be preferred by most but technically not necessary so if we are baptised by the spirit when we accept Christ why would re baptism be necessary? Makes no sense to me
I'm going to agree with Jag. I do think you should go through water baptism because that is how Jesus began his ministry and John baptized as a symbol of repentance. Today it is a symbol of the death of your old person (going down under the water), burial (being covered by water), and the resurrection (arising out of the water) of your new person because you are born again as a new creation in Christ. That can only happen once. Why should you be rebaptized? Of course, Jesus did things so as not to offend others on occasion (Matthew 17:27). But, water baptism is your first act of obedience as a follower of Christ. It shows the world that you are identifying yourself as a believer. Matthew 3:15,Jesus says to John, "Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness." John didn't feel worthy to do it, but Christ said it was a necessary act of righteousness. I don't think you have to do it, though. Obviously, the thief on the cross didn't have a chance to be baptized. It just shows publically that you are a Christian.
(setfree;31801)
I have a question about someone having to be re baptized to join certain churches. I have a daughter-in-law that was of a nondenominational religion. They were going to join a Baptist church and the church said she would have to get re-baptized to join that church. This was there policy, not necessarily scriptural. They went on to say that they are looking at changing that policy since they have had three in the last month come to join under these circumstances. Why is this practiced in some churches? Is there scripture to back this up?
"Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied." (Acts 19:1-6)Some churches preach Jesus lamb of God "he died to save you" . . . they get as far as Calvary but don't get to Pentecost where Jesus began his role as baptiser in the Holy Spirit.The true Jesus, the true gospel is both.We are required to be baptised unto that Jesus, not the reduced version. We re-baptise people if they were not baptised unto the true way of salvation.
I have a question about someone having to be re baptized to join certain churches. I have a daughter-in-law that was of a nondenominational religion. They were going to join a Baptist church and the church said she would have to get re-baptized to join that church. This was there policy, not necessarily scriptural. They went on to say that they are looking at changing that policy since they have had three in the last month come to join under these circumstances. Why is this practiced in some churches? Is there scripture to back this up?
"Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied." (Acts 19:1-6)Some churches preach Jesus lamb of God "he died to save you" . . . they get as far as Calvary but don't get to Pentecost where Jesus began his role as baptiser in the Holy Spirit.The true Jesus, the true gospel is both.We are required to be baptised unto that Jesus, not the reduced version. We re-baptise people if they were not baptised unto the true way of salvation.
and as usual for you Tallman you miss the important verse 5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. They were not baptised in the Name of Christ 6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues,(forgein Languages of other nations) and prophesied(taught the Word of God ).
Of course, Tallman, you are visiting an age-old battle between the Protestant religions and the Non-denominational religions. I'm sure this is a weapon satan loves to use to get Christians side-tracked into war against each other instead of battling him. I have earnestly tried to see your point of view. I just don't know that there is enough evidence in scripture that you have to speak in tongues to receive a "second baptism" of the Holy Spirit. There are other scriptures to support that you have the Spirit at the point of salvation(Romans 8:9); otherwise how can you be guided by Jesus? I think, as I have studied, I have come to the conclusion that the Spirit manifested Himself so powerfully to them because they had to have such evidence. They had been traumatized with Christ's death. I do agree with Kriss too, that the tongues were used to reach others in their native language. I do believe tongues is a real gift, but everyone doesn't have to have it to be a strong Christian. We should put more emphasis on showing mercy and finding some of the other gifts, like the gift of helps. We grow in the Spirit by surrendering more of ourselves over to Him. Nothing takes the place of this. It's a process, not a one-time event of sudden power.
(TallMan;31887)
"Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied." (Acts 19:1-6)Some churches preach Jesus lamb of God "he died to save you" . . . they get as far as Calvary but don't get to Pentecost where Jesus began his role as baptiser in the Holy Spirit.The true Jesus, the true gospel is both.We are required to be baptised unto that Jesus, not the reduced version. We re-baptise people if they were not baptised unto the true way of salvation.
Did Paul baptize these in water, or just lay his hands on them?
"Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied." (Acts 19:1-6)Some churches preach Jesus lamb of God "he died to save you" . . . they get as far as Calvary but don't get to Pentecost where Jesus began his role as baptiser in the Holy Spirit.The true Jesus, the true gospel is both.We are required to be baptised unto that Jesus, not the reduced version. We re-baptise people if they were not baptised unto the true way of salvation.
Did Paul baptize these in water, or just lay his hands on them?
Jon-Marc
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Baptism is necessary only once--AFTER one is born again. It is simply an act of obedience to show we have decided to follow Jesus. It also symbolizes His death, burial and resurrection, which means that ONLY immersion is correct.
(setfree;31925)
Did Paul baptize these in water, or just lay his hands on them?
In water . .Ac:19:4: Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.:5: When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.after that Paul laid hands on them
Did Paul baptize these in water, or just lay his hands on them?
In water . .Ac:19:4: Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.:5: When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.after that Paul laid hands on them
Where do you get water here they were baptisted in repentance that is not water that is acceptance (belief in Christ)
They changed their policy! The church my son and daughter-in-law was wanting to joined allowed her to join without getting rebaptized.
"Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied." (Acts 19:1-6)So these disciples were baptized with water before they received the Holy Spirit? Would they have been baptized with water again after this?If not,why do people say you must be water baptized only after you receive the Holy Spirit? I was baptized as a Catholic as a baby, but am no longer Catholic. I go to a Baptist church now and they say water baptizim only counts after you receive the Spirit. I understand this because it shows you are dedicated to Jesus to your community and it is obedience to God. But then what about these disciples in the Bible verses?
(setfree;31801)
I have a question about someone having to be re baptized to join certain churches. I have a daughter-in-law that was of a nondenominational religion. They were going to join a Baptist church and the church said she would have to get re-baptized to join that church. This was there policy, not necessarily scriptural. They went on to say that they are looking at changing that policy since they have had three in the last month come to join under these circumstances. Why is this practiced in some churches? Is there scripture to back this up?
no though baptists say there is . They think straight way out of the water means immersion most others recognize straight way out of the water as leaving the wter with out any hesitation .THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS RE CHRISTIAN BAPTISM YOUR EITHER Christian baptized or your not.most baptists believe that if you were not baptized by the immersion mode you were never realy christian baptized.Lutherans would perfer immersion if the baptists and some others did not insist on it ..But since they do; we baptize by sprinkling or pouring and thats the main reason why.. When these other groups stop insisting on immersion.thats when lutherans will then go back to this perferd method of ours also--- immersionand those who think i am kidding! do not kniow lutheran history verry well and the why we started pouring or sprinklingwas to show our Christian freedom in this matter.
I have a question about someone having to be re baptized to join certain churches. I have a daughter-in-law that was of a nondenominational religion. They were going to join a Baptist church and the church said she would have to get re-baptized to join that church. This was there policy, not necessarily scriptural. They went on to say that they are looking at changing that policy since they have had three in the last month come to join under these circumstances. Why is this practiced in some churches? Is there scripture to back this up?
no though baptists say there is . They think straight way out of the water means immersion most others recognize straight way out of the water as leaving the wter with out any hesitation .THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS RE CHRISTIAN BAPTISM YOUR EITHER Christian baptized or your not.most baptists believe that if you were not baptized by the immersion mode you were never realy christian baptized.Lutherans would perfer immersion if the baptists and some others did not insist on it ..But since they do; we baptize by sprinkling or pouring and thats the main reason why.. When these other groups stop insisting on immersion.thats when lutherans will then go back to this perferd method of ours also--- immersionand those who think i am kidding! do not kniow lutheran history verry well and the why we started pouring or sprinklingwas to show our Christian freedom in this matter.
(kriss;31894)
and as usual for you Tallman you miss the important verse 5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. They were not baptised in the Name of Christ 6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues,(forgein Languages of other nations) and prophesied(taught the Word of God ).
OH My, I dislike dogma, because it always causes tension. But I will speak on This, You know what a Cloven Tongue is Kriss? Cloven meaning Split, and their Speaking was like Cloven Tongues, Dancing Like Drunkards filled with the Holy Ghost. AND WHEN IT'S PROPHECY, it's not just Teaching it's when the Spirit of the Lord himself Is Speaking and you hear THUS SAITH THE LORD come out of that person's Mouth. I've seen this, but sad to say people despise This Type of Prophecy and Tongue Speaking.
and as usual for you Tallman you miss the important verse 5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. They were not baptised in the Name of Christ 6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues,(forgein Languages of other nations) and prophesied(taught the Word of God ).
OH My, I dislike dogma, because it always causes tension. But I will speak on This, You know what a Cloven Tongue is Kriss? Cloven meaning Split, and their Speaking was like Cloven Tongues, Dancing Like Drunkards filled with the Holy Ghost. AND WHEN IT'S PROPHECY, it's not just Teaching it's when the Spirit of the Lord himself Is Speaking and you hear THUS SAITH THE LORD come out of that person's Mouth. I've seen this, but sad to say people despise This Type of Prophecy and Tongue Speaking.
(Unorthodox Christian;36285)
OH My, I dislike dogma, because it always causes tension. But I will speak on This, You know what a Cloven Tongue is Kriss? Cloven meaning Split, and their Speaking was like Cloven Tongues, Dancing Like Drunkards filled with the Holy Ghost. AND WHEN IT'S PROPHECY, it's not just Teaching it's when the Spirit of the Lord himself Is Speaking and you hear THUS SAITH THE LORD come out of that person's Mouth. I've seen this, but sad to say people despise This Type of Prophecy and Tongue Speaking.
This is what I have come to believe about prophecy as well, it is good to hear someone else confirm it.
OH My, I dislike dogma, because it always causes tension. But I will speak on This, You know what a Cloven Tongue is Kriss? Cloven meaning Split, and their Speaking was like Cloven Tongues, Dancing Like Drunkards filled with the Holy Ghost. AND WHEN IT'S PROPHECY, it's not just Teaching it's when the Spirit of the Lord himself Is Speaking and you hear THUS SAITH THE LORD come out of that person's Mouth. I've seen this, but sad to say people despise This Type of Prophecy and Tongue Speaking.
This is what I have come to believe about prophecy as well, it is good to hear someone else confirm it.
AMEN Brother! Good to know that you know true Prophecy. I totally HATE THE NICOLAITAN Spirit. People try to overthrow the Holy Ghost. You have people who say prophecy is when people come up to you and say your future. That's a small type of what the True Prophecy in a Congregation is. It's when THUS SAITH THE LORD is Speaking and that Interpreter of the Tongue Speaking is Speaking THUS SAITH THE LORD. I've seen this, and it's sad to see so many people despise it. People think it's when someone goes up to you and say, Yeah God told me you will get a couple of bucks at the end of the money. I know what True Prophecy is because a Brother had a word for me. WHEN HE SPOKE, SAITH THE LORD, AND THUS SAITH THE LORD came out of his mouth. ANYONE before that who claimed they were prophesying, never said SAITH THE LORD, or THUS SAITH THE LORD, and that Prophecy that the brother who had THUS SAITH THE LORD came to pass. ALL others without THUS SAITH THE LORD failed. Goes to show you what real Prophecy is.It's sad how people today in Laodicea have that Nicolaitan Spirit. NICO meaning Overcome or conquer, and Laity meaning the Power in Order. So in it's real term removing the Holy Ghost(The Laity). People will despise the Tongue Speaking and Prophecy. My friend is somewhat of a reform jew, He goes to an orthodox Temple, and THEY SPEAK TONGUES, cloven tongues that men cannot understand. Well Brother seeing that you pretty much agree with alot of what I've said on this Board. If you want, with an open heart and go with Prayer First in Jesus Christ Name. Visit this website. www.believethesign.com.
