Being Saved is Being Eternally Saved

[Johann]

No Scripture says we are given salvation without cost.

Don't know which Bible translation you are reading from....

Rom_5:5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

Rom_12:6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;

1Co_2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

2Co_1:11 Ye also helping together by prayer for us, that for the gift bestowed upon us by the means of many persons thanks may be given by many on our behalf.

2Co_1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

2Co_5:5 Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.

2Co_5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

2Co_10:8 For though I should boast somewhat more of our authority, which the Lord hath given us for edification, and not for your destruction, I should not be ashamed:

Eph_4:7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

Eph_5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.

1Th_4:8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.

2Th_2:16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,

2Ti_1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

2Ti_1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

2Pe_1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

2Pe_1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

1Jn_3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

1Jn_4:13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.

1Jn_5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

1Jn_5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

J.

 

[robert derrick]

Scripture doesn't speak of salvation being given, but obtained, and that is only at the end of this life......your words

..the "end" of his life? Salvation is only obtained at the end of a believers Life?

Quoting a bunch of scriptures means nothing...explain the..."salvation is only obtained at the end of his life?"

Quote me.

 

[robert derrick]

Don't know which Bible translation you are reading from....

Rom_5:5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

Rom_12:6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;

1Co_2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

2Co_1:11 Ye also helping together by prayer for us, that for the gift bestowed upon us by the means of many persons thanks may be given by many on our behalf.

2Co_1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

2Co_5:5 Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.

2Co_5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

2Co_10:8 For though I should boast somewhat more of our authority, which the Lord hath given us for edification, and not for your destruction, I should not be ashamed:

Eph_4:7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

Eph_5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.

1Th_4:8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.

2Th_2:16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,

2Ti_1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

2Ti_1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

2Pe_1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

2Pe_1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

1Jn_3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

1Jn_4:13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.

1Jn_5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

1Jn_5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

J.

Having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust, first, and so given those great promises by answering the call to glory and virtue.

It's called repentance from sinning, first, then believing the gospel and doing the word of truth.

For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?

 

[robert derrick]

OK, you "switched off" Teacher...
When are we actually saved?

Mainstream Christianity almost exclusively speaks of salvation as a present reality in the life of a Christian. It is viewed as the state of believers at the moment they accept Jesus Christ as Savior (or, for some denominations, at the moment of baptism). In other words, if you have accepted Jesus, you are saved. Your sins are forgiven, and your place in heaven is assured. End of story.

But is that all there is to salvation?

In His famous Olivet Prophecy, Jesus said: “But he who endures to the end shall be saved” (Matthew 24:13, emphasis added throughout). “The end” refers to the end of this age and Christ’s second coming.

So, Jesus seems to be saying that salvation will occur in the future. That statement seems to indicate that being saved is a future event that believers have not yet experienced.

But there are other passages that seem to say the opposite. For instance, Paul said, “For by grace you have been saved through faith” (Ephesians 2:8).

Eph 2:8 For it is by free grace (God's unmerited favor) that you are saved (delivered from judgment and made partakers of Christ's salvation) through [your] faith. And this [salvation] is not of yourselves [of your own doing, it came not through your own striving], but it is the gift of God;
You ARE...

Part of Speech: Verb
Tense: Present
Voice: no voice stated
Mood: Indicative
Person: second [you+]
Number: Plural


Part of Speech: Verb
Tense: peRfect
Voice: Passive
Mood: Participle
Case: Nominative (subject; predicate nominative)
Number: Plural
Gender: Masculine


This seems to imply salvation is a past event.

But in still other places, the Bible speaks of salvation as something that’s ongoing: “But to us who are being saved it is the power of God” (1 Corinthians 1:18).

So which is it? “Shall be saved” (future), “have been saved” (past) or “are being saved” (present)?

The answer is—yes, all three!

Salvation is a process
How can all three be true?

The past, present and future aspects of being saved represent three major steps of the salvation process.To understand this, we have to remember exactly what salvation is—it is being saved from sin and its consequences. Sin (which results in separation from God and ultimately death) is the major obstacle to our achieving God’s purpose for us, which is to become perfect as He is perfect (Matthew 5:48). When a person accepts Christ and is baptized, he or she is only beginning on that path. Salvation is best understood as a process—not an event.

The past, present and future aspects of being saved represent three major steps of the salvation process. Let’s take a closer look at each step.

Step 1: Becoming a Christian (“have been saved”)
The first step is being called by God and coming to Him through Jesus Christ. In order to do that, the primary problem we have to deal with is ourselves. All of us come to God with a lifetime of sins on our record. We need to be saved from having to experience eternal death as a consequence for those sins (Romans 6:23).

When we accept Christ and His shed blood for sin, we must deeply repent of those sins and be baptized (Acts 2:38). When a person rises up out of the watery grave of baptism, those sins are “washed away” and “blotted out”—completely cleansed and expunged from the person’s record (Acts 2:38; 3:19; 22:16).

This is what Paul was referring to when he wrote that “by grace you have been saved through faith” (Ephesians 2:8). Immediately after baptism, every truly repentant believer has been saved from all the sins committed before that moment. God accepts Jesus’ death to pay the penalty for those sins on our behalf—we are saved from that penalty.

So, this is the sense in which a true believer is already saved.

Step 2: Living the Christian life (“being saved”)
When true believers come out of the waters of baptism, they are saved from the sins they committed prior to that moment—but there’s still a problem. They will continue to live. Which means they will sin again.

[For the "sinless perfection lot, this will make no sense]

True belief, repentance and baptism wash away past sins, but do not blot out all future sins. In order to be saved from sins committed after baptism, a believer must repent of and seek God’s forgiveness for those sins. Writing primarily to baptized Christians, John wrote, “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” (1 John 1:9).

When those post-baptism sins are repented of and cleansed from our record, we are saved from those sins. This is the sense in which we are being saved through an ongoing process. As we repent of sins after baptism and continue to grow in God’s character, we are saved from the death penalty for those sins by Christ’s sacrifice and are continually reconciled to God.

Step 3: Receiving eternal life at Christ’s return (“shall be saved”)
But there is still another aspect of salvation that is yet future. Remember that the two results of sin we need to be saved from are death and alienation from God. We are not fully saved, in its ultimate sense, until we are composed of spirit and made perfect—no longer in danger of sin or death. This is what Jesus Christ was referring to when He said, “He who endures to the end shall be saved” (Matthew 24:13).

When Jesus returns, He will bring salvation to His people: “He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation” (Hebrews 9:28). The process of being saved has only begun in our lives today—but Christ will complete it at His return. Salvation is ultimately given at the end of a physical lifetime of faithfully repenting, growing and developing a life of faith toward God (1 Peter 1:9). This is why the Bible says we are “saved by His life” (Romans 5:10)—because only a living, resurrected Savior can return and give eternal life!

This is “the hope of salvation” (1 Thessalonians 5:8). It is the future hope that true Christians seek. It is being saved from death and becoming a member of God’s family for all eternity.

This debunks your theory of....."the believer shall only obtain salvation at the end"

The Present and Perfect says otherwise.
J.

Saved and being saved unto the end, while not sinning against God.

At the end, we are eternally saved with no more temptation endure, by being in obedience to Him are the end.

OSAS eternal salvation at the start, whether sinning or not, is the lie of receiving the crown at the start of the race.

They really think that are running with the crown already on, whether doing so lawfully or not.

That crown is that of fool's gold, not of the gold of Jesus tried in the fire.