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Beyond The Four Spiritual Laws

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    258) Col 4:16 . . After this letter has been read to you, see that it is also
    read in the church of the Laodiceans; and that you in turn read the letter
    from Laodicea.

    That directive has little application today except to point out that the epistles
    are meant to be studied in every Christian church; not just special Christian
    churches.

    259) Col 4:17 . . And say to Archippus: Take heed to the ministry which you
    have received in The Lord, that you may fulfill it.

    Archippus was a person of interest in the church at Colossae that met
    together in Philemon's home. (Phil 1:1-3)

    Paul's directive targeted a specific person of interest, but it can just as
    easily apply to any believer in a "calling" (cf. Rom 12:6-8)

    260) 1Thess 4:1-2 . . Finally then, brethren, we request and exhort you in
    The Lord Jesus, that, as you received from us instruction as to how you
    ought to walk and please God (just as you actually do walk), that you may
    excel still more. For you know what commandments we gave you by the
    authority of The Lord Jesus.

    The tally of Christ's commandments at this point is 260. I assume my
    believing audience is already complying with them, and that's good. But to
    "excel" in them, requires constant use: like mastering violin, knitting,
    surgery, fly fishing, or shooting trap and skeet. They say practice makes
    perfect; and I'm inclined to agree because the more something is practiced,
    the more it becomes a habit instead of an effort.

    For safety reasons, X-ray welding certifications typically expire in six
    months-- and some in only three depending upon the parameters --if the
    welder doesn't work with the certified process during that time. The
    certifying agency assumes welders lose their touch if they don't keep at it.

    Keeping up the good work is all the same as flossing your teeth every night
    because a lack of practice will lead one into bad habits. Even Derek Jeter
    would've soon lost his edge had he taken too long a break from playing
    baseball.

    1Tim 4:8-9 . . Physical exercise has some value, but spiritual exercise is
    much more important, for it promises a reward in both this life and the next.
    This is true, and everyone should accept it.

    The reward promised in this life is the fruit of the Spirit (Gal 5:19-25) which
    is broken down into love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness,
    faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.

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    261) 1Thess 4:3-5 . . It is God's will that you should be sanctified: that you
    should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control his
    own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the
    heathen, who do not know God;

    Some folk, not quite understanding the nature of the Spirit birth about which
    John wrote in John 1:12-13 and about which Christ spoke in John 3:3-8,
    have been led to believe that born-again Christians are supposed to be free
    of their libido and their romantic impulses. Well, obviously not, or why else
    would it be God's will to control them?

    There's a downside to sleeping around; not only a spiritual downside but a
    practical downside too. The below is from a study done by two psychology
    researchers from the university of Denver after studying 418 people who
    participated in a Relationship Development Study.

    "The more sexual partners one sleeps with prior to marriage, the less quality
    of life they can expect to have in marriage. This also goes for people who
    shack up prior to marriage; even among those whose only sexual partner
    has been the person they eventually marry. People who have been through
    a divorce, or who had shacked up with someone before meeting their
    current spouse, were also less likely to have a high-quality marriage."

    262) 1Thess 4:6 . . and that in this matter no one should wrong his brother
    or take advantage of him.

    "this matter" refers to adultery.

    Heb 13:4 . . Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept
    pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.

    Christians commit adultery with Christians? Haw! Does that even need to be
    answered? Of course they do; and it goes on all the time, even among
    church officers; who by all rights should be setting the example for the rank
    and file.

    My wife was once friends with the wife of a counselor in a very big church in
    San Diego. She confided with my wife (on the QT of course) that it was
    amazing the number of church officers and their wives who were messing
    around. She couldn't reveal their names of course due to privacy
    considerations.

    263) 1Thess 4:6-8 . . God has called us to be holy, not to live impure lives.
    Anyone who refuses to live by these rules is not disobeying human rules but
    is rejecting God, who gives his Holy Spirit to you.

    God's rules are the edicts of a monarch; and He expects compliance; but
    because people hear His rules as hear-say rather than straight from the
    horse's mouth, they quite naturally tend to be scofflaws.


    NOTE: Why "gives" the Spirit instead of gave? Well; although Christ's
    followers are all equally endowed with the Spirit (1Cor 6:19) it's benefits are
    not equally doled. The fruit of the Spirit as per Gal 5:22-23 has a string
    attached: compliance with Christ's wishes; viz: when Christ's followers go
    rogue and live in accordance with their base nature, they die (John 15:1-10,
    Rom 8:5-13). In other words: the fruit of the Spirit is withheld.

    264) 1Thess 4:11a . . Make it your ambition to lead a quiet life, to mind your
    own business

    Pro 26:17 . . Like one who seizes a dog by the ears is a passer-by who
    meddles in a quarrel not his own.

    In other words: DON'T get in the middle of disagreements that don't concern
    you. People resent that. You'll just end up taking sides and that is a really
    unwise thing to do because you'll make unnecessary enemies like that. Even
    someone who was once your very best friend can become alienated from
    you if you take a side against them in a matter that's none of your business.

    265) 1Thess 4:11b-12 . . and to work with your own hands, just as we
    instructed you, so that your daily life may win the respect of outsiders; and
    so that you will not be dependent on anybody.

    In times of economic stress, such as the one the USA is experiencing these
    days due to the 2008 Wall Street collapse, downsizing, wage reductions,
    corporations expatriating for tax advantages and/or outsourcing and moving
    their manufacturing offshore to take advantage of cheap labor and skimpy
    government controls; a pretty large percentage of America's employable
    Christians are out of work not because they are lazy free-loaders; but
    because their opportunities for full time work with decent wages and benefits
    are steadily declining.

    So tread lightly when services like
    SNAP, TANF, Unemployment Benefits, etc
    come up in conversations. Innocent people's feeling might get hurt if you
    become too critical of those kinds of social services. And don't ever assume
    that you are immune to poverty. It can happen to anyone; even overnight
    and then you'll be looking around for assistance; maybe even from the very
    agencies that you at one time thought were below you.

    266) 1Thess 4:18 . .Therefore encourage each other with these words.

    Below are the words to which Paul referred

    1Thess 4:13-11 . . Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about
    those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope.
    We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will
    bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. According to The
    Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the
    coming of The Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep.

    . . . For The Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud
    command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God,
    and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are
    left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet The Lord in
    the air. And so we will be with The Lord forever.

    None of our circumstances are permanent; none, because Christ's followers
    are on their way to something better; and bumps in the road are not the end
    of the road; they're just inconveniences.

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    267) 1Thess 5:5-6 . . We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be alert and self-controlled.

    Is it possible for a Christian to be asleep at the wheel? Yes, absolutely or why else would Paul encourage his friends to remain wide-awake and bushy-tailed?

    Mark 4:18-19 . . Others are like seed sown among thorns: they hear the word; but are distracted by the cares of this life, the deceitfulness of wealth; and longings for other things come in and choke the word, making it unfruitful.

    Well, the lesson is obvious. Christians ought not to be distracted by worldly pursuits to such an extent that the day about which The Lord spoke comes as a big disappointment. No; they ought to be glad to see it rather than be all broken up about it because like it nor not; Christians take no more out with them than the lost when they leave this sphere. So try not to get too attached.

    1Tim 6:7 . . For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.

    268) 1Thess 5:8 . . Since we belong to the day, let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet.

    The hope of salvation isn't a wishing hope, nor is it a hope-for-the-best hope, nor a cross-your-fingers hope. The koiné Greek word is elpis (el-pece') which means to anticipate with pleasure and confident expectation.

    Anticipation is way different than wishful thinking. When a daddy loads up the car with wife and kids for a day at Six Flags, his family is no longer wishing he'd take them there. No, they're in the car and on the way. They no longer wish, but are now looking forward to having a day of great fun, food, and excitement. That's elpis hope.

    269) 1Thess 5:11 . . Therefore encourage one another, and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing.

    Building believers up is just the opposite of tearing them down. Those in Galatia were busy doing just that.

    Gal 5:15 . . But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another!

    270) 1Thess 5:12-13a . . Now we ask you, brothers, to respect those who work hard among you, who are over you in The Lord and who admonish you. Hold them in the highest regard in love because of their work.

    Real men respect real men. When church officers are mice; then 1Thess 5:12-13a becomes a challenge for real men to obey; but regardless; comply they must.

    Heb 13:17 . . Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

    I would say that if the officers in your church are just too impossible for you to respect then it's time to abandon ship. Don't mutiny though because mutiny is just as much a sin as heresy. The rank and file aren't called to reform church officers; but to cooperate with them. If they can't cooperate with them; then I sincerely believe the rank and file should leave and find a church where they can because The Lord isn't pleased with grudging compliance; but rather with whole-hearted compliance.

    271) 1Thess 5:13b . . Live in peace with each other.

    The category of peace Paul is talking about is social; viz: harmony in personal relations. The Hippies and the peace-nics failed to achieve peace primarily because they couldn't be civil among themselves unless they were high on mood-altering drugs.

    Peace can be defined as: calm, pacific, tranquil, at rest, quiet, and free of trouble and strife.

    A lack of peace is characterized by war, quarrelling, vendettas, hostility, grudging, fault finding, nit picking, chafing, competition, rivalry, cold shouldering, factions, taking sides, cliques, disorder, antagonism, fighting, conflict, struggles, et al.

    One of the keynotes of Messiah's kingdom is peace. (Isa 9:6-7)

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    272) 1Thess 5:14a . . And we urge you, brethren, admonish the unruly

    The koiné Greek word for "unruly" is ataktos (at-ak'-toce) which means:
    irregular; viz: out of order; disorderly. Unruly people are like kindergartners;
    but that's to be expected from their age group: little kids are disruptive,
    they're boisterous, they go off-subject and say whatever they want right out
    of the blue. They provoke and antagonize each other, they don't listen, they
    talk out of turn, they're impulsive, they can't stay in their seats, and they
    meddle and can't mind their own business.

    When I see four supposedly adult women on television like "The View"
    throwing hissy fits and walking off the set, and/or talking out of turn; and
    spontaneously interrupting each other in mid sentence-- sometimes all four
    speaking at once --I have to wonder. And so-called presidential debates
    where two supposedly mature adults, competing for the power to run the
    country, are hurling accusations and recriminations, assassinating each
    other's character, and calling each other names; I get disgusted. God forbid
    that Christ's followers act like that either in church or out in the world.

    273) 1Thess 5:14b . . comfort the discouraged

    A discouraged person is someone who's given up all hope that a situation
    will improve or change; viz: despairing.

    In order to obey that directive, it's necessary to become personal with the
    people with whom you attend church. Too many Christians are like little
    islands of humanity in church. They warm a pew on Sunday morning and
    then get up and leave without bothering to spend even one minute mingling.
    They don't attend Sunday school because in Sunday school you meet
    people-- you associate with them; you get to know them, and they get to
    know you.

    As disagreeable as that might be for private types of Christians, Sunday
    school is the best place in church to go for sympathy, for encouragement,
    and for support. Unfortunately, not many Christians can deal with negativity;
    and tend to distance themselves from people down in the dumps.


    NOTE: In Dr. Laura Schlessinger's book "Ten Stupid Things That Men Do To
    Mess Up Their Lives
    " she lists men's propensity to fix things. In other words:
    instead of simply lending a sympathetic ear to people's problems, some men
    tend to see people with problems as "broken" and in need of repair; and
    then of course they take the initiative to begin offering unsolicited remedies.
    No; the idea is to console the discouraged, not to "fix" them.

    But even Sunday schools have their problems. If the class size is enormous,
    then you will be swallowed up and no more visible than a termite in the floor
    boards. Look for small classes; especially those where the people sit around
    tables rather than in rows of chairs. You get to meet people around tables,
    while rows of chairs tend to isolate people from one another.

    And don't forget your church's pastors, deacons, and elders. They need
    encouragement and support too just like anybody else. Don't ever assume
    your leaders are rocks who don't need anybody. No, they're only human,
    and if they're truly humble, they'll really appreciate your interest in their
    welfare-- usually.

    I once complimented a young speaker at a men's breakfast about the lecture
    he delivered that morning. He glared at me with daggers-- his mouth a tight
    grimace, his eyes narrow slits of hate and suspicion --and turned away
    without speaking a single word in response. That young man's reaction took
    me by surprise; chilling me to the bone and causing me to forget everything
    he said that day up in front. Obviously he was a rock in his own mind and
    insulted by encouragement from the audience. Well, I kept my distance from
    then on. God pity a church with people like that on staff.

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    274) 1Thess 5:14c . . support the weak

    This actually means to care for your church's aged and/or infirm; viz; people
    on crutches, people getting around in wheel chairs, people who can no
    longer drive a car, people lacking enough health to even leave their
    residences and go shopping on their own, people stuck in assisted living:
    that sort of thing.

    275) 1Thess 5:14d . . Be patient with all men.

    Most of us are selective with our patience. But The Lord mandates patience
    with "all" men, not just favorites. This relates to the directive that
    commands believers to value others as better than themselves. (Phil 2:2-3)

    276) 1Thess 5:15 . . See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but
    ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.

    Christian conduct isn't a temporary uniform kept in the closet just for
    Sunday mornings like the rather odd patrons who wear costumes at Star
    Trek conventions. No, Christian conduct is every-day wear: in the home, on
    the job, at school, at the beach, at the mall, at the park, at the beach, in
    restaurants, in amusement centers, at the zoo, at the circus, et al; in other
    words: ever-followed; not just at church on Sunday morning.

    277) 1Thess 5:16 . . Rejoice evermore.

    "evermore" doesn't mean some of the time, nor most of the time; but
    rather, it means all the time.

    278) 1Thess 5:17 . . pray continually

    The koiné Greek word for "continually" is adialeiptos (ad-ee-al-ipe'-toce)
    which means: uninterruptedly; viz: without omission. Webster's defines
    omission as: 1) something neglected or left undone, and 2) apathy toward,
    or neglect of, duty.

    Believers who pray seldom, or not at all, are like a young man in the military
    who never writes home until his parents complain about his silence. I wrote
    home so infrequently when I was in the US Army back in the 1960's that my
    dad finally threatened to contact my company commander about it. (I
    thought that rather out of character for my dad since he never really cared
    anything about what I was doing all the years when I lived at home.)

    You know, I have to admit, that even if I had a red phone installed in my
    home with a direct connection to God's desk, it would gather cobwebs from
    lack of use. I sometimes suspect that's one of the reasons trouble comes our
    way. It's to provoke some of us to call home.

    It's not that I don't like God; it's just that all my life I've been conditioned to
    feel peripheral, and important to no one. My natural siblings are just the
    opposite. They have always perceived themselves at the center of the
    universe-- essential to its existence --while I have always perceived myself
    as not even belonging in the universe; let alone being at its center and/or
    having anything to do with its existence.

    One evening, while attending a single's group at church back in the 1970's,
    the leader of the group went around the room asking each of us to name
    something special about ourselves. I could not think of a single thing; while
    another in the room said everything about themselves was special. They
    weren't being vain; they were being honest. That fortunate person had a
    very good self image and a healthy appreciation for their own worth.

    It's very difficult for Christians like myself to believe that Christ's Father has
    any real interest in us. We have always believed ourselves ostracized,
    unnecessary, marginal, unwanted, and unimportant-- but we're used to it so
    it's no big deal.

    But feelings of unimportance are a handicap: not just in life, but in the
    spiritual realm too. It is just about nigh unbearable for believers like myself
    to comply with 1Thess 5:17 since we simply cannot believe ourselves missed
    by anyone; especially Christ's Father who we believe in our hearts must
    certainly prefer the company of people far more interesting than ourselves.
    But that command applies to everybody whether we think God cares or not.
    All must comply; no exceptions.

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    279) 1Thess 5:18 . . Give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God's will
    for you in Christ Jesus.

    The koiné Greek word for "give thanks" is eucharisteo (yoo-khar-is-teh'-o)
    which means to be grateful. This goes much deeper than just common
    courtesy. Appreciation is an attitude; which Webster's defines as: to value or
    admire highly.

    They say every cloud has a silver lining. Whether that's so or not matters
    little as one should never let disagreeable circumstances make them bitter
    and resentful towards the Bible's God; for example:

    Job 1:20-22 . .Then Job arose and tore his robe and shaved his head, and
    he fell to the ground and worshiped. And he said: Naked I came from my
    mother's womb, and naked I shall return there. Yhvh gave and Yhvh has
    taken away. Blessed be the name of Yhvh. Through all this Job did not sin
    nor did he condemn God.

    Hab 3:17-18 . . Although the fig tree fails to blossom, neither shall fruit be
    in the vines; the labor of the olive shall fail, and the fields shall yield no
    food; the flock shall be cut off from the fold, and there shall be no herd in
    the stalls: yet I will rejoice in Yhvh, I will joy in the God of my salvation.

    Regardless of what the unbelieving world may say, think, or feel about the
    Bible's God, the one thing He's done for me that I will always sincerely
    appreciate is donate His one and only son towards rescuing my soul from a
    terrible future.

    John 3:16-17 . . For God so cared for the world that He sacrificed His only
    Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal
    life. For God didn't send His son into the world to condemn it, but to rescue
    it.

    280) 1Thess 5:19 . . Quench not the Spirit.

    The koiné Greek word for "quench" is sbennumi (sben'-noo-mee) which
    means: to extinguish.

    When we put out the lights nowadays, we do it with a mechanical device like
    a switch or a circuit breaker because they're electric. But in those days, all
    illumination was produced by fire, e.g. oil, pitch, wood, and/or candles. I
    think it goes without saying that when a believer has managed to extinguish
    the Spirit; they're walking in the dark; which throws them out of sync with
    God.

    1John 1:6 . . If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in
    the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth

    Fellowship has nothing to do with heaven and/or hell. Fellowship is related to
    the nature of a believer's association with the paterfamilias of the family of
    God. For example, a rebellious teen-ager may not be getting along with its
    parents, but the mom and dad are still that teen-ager's parents regardless,
    The nature of the family's association may be temporarily dysfunctional but
    no amount of bad behavior can undo the family as kin-- ever.

    281) 1Thess 5:20 . . Do not despise prophecies.

    The koiné Greek word for "prophecies" is propheteia (prof-ay-ti'-ah) which
    basically refers to predicting the future; for example: Matt 25:31-46, 1Cor
    15:51-52, 1Thess 4:13-17, 2Pet 3:10, Rev 16:18-20, Rev 20:11-15, and
    Rev 21:1.

    Webster's defines "despise" as (1) to look down on with contempt, loathing,
    or aversion, (2) to regard as negligible, worthless, or distasteful, and (3) to
    regard as unworthy of one's notice or consideration.

    Beware mocking prophecy; the practice is not only disobedient, but it's also
    risky; should a prophecy comes to pass, you'll be forced to eat your words.

    282) 1Thess 5:20-22 . . Evaluate everything carefully; hold fast to that
    which is good; abstain from every form of evil.

    I often see Christians parrot "By their fruits you shall know them". But they
    seem unaware that fruit inspectors require specialized training before they're
    qualified to distinguish between the good fruit from the bad fruit. Worldly
    Christians especially are in no condition to discern between good and bad
    because they've quenched the Spirit and walk in the dark. To a worldly
    Christian that which is good is bad, and that which is bad is good.
    Subsequently, they do just the opposite of Paul's directive: they abstain
    from good rather than bad; and then wonder why the paterfamilias of the
    family of God is a stranger.

    283) 1Thess 5:25 . . Brethren, pray for us.

    The pronoun "us" refers to Paul and his associates; but could just as easily
    apply to anyone who represents Christ; e.g. evangelists, missionaries,
    pastors, deacons, Sunday school teachers, and elders.

    284) 1Thess 5:26 . . Greet all the brethren with a holy kiss.

    Kissing was a common form of greeting in the old world, and still is in some
    places today. Kissing is risky though because it can easily turn from holy
    kissing into sensual kissing. I'd say let your own culture be your guide in this
    area. The kiss itself isn't really mandatory anyway, it's the greeting that
    counts; and believers are to greet all the brethren, not just their favorites.
    Don't be a snob.

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    285) 1Thess 5:27 . . I adjure you by The Lord to have this letter read to all
    the brethren.

    None of the epistles are "eyes only" for church officers. The whole
    congregation is supposed to have access to them, and expected to know
    what's in them. How else are they to evaluate everything carefully, and hold
    fast to that which is good, and abstain from every form of evil if they aren't
    given access to the epistles?

    The word "adjure" has a variety of meanings; they all pretty much relate to
    putting someone under a solemn obligation; viz: Bible reading isn't optional;
    it's required because it's the only way for Christ's followers to know how to
    conduct themselves in Christ-approved ways when associating with the others.

    1Tim 3:14-15 . . I am writing these things to you now-- even though I
    hope to be with you soon --so that if I can't come for a while, you will know
    how people must conduct themselves in the household of God.

    286) 2Ths 2:1-2 . . Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our
    Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, that ye be not
    soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by
    letter as from us, that the day of Christ is at hand.

    "our gathering together unto him" probably refers to 1Thess 4:14-17.

    The "day of Christ" can be defined as all that terrible stuff that's to take
    place in the book of Revelation, which Isa 13:9 describes as "cruel". Paul is
    saying that Christ's followers need not be nervous about it because they are
    slated to be spared all of that.

    1Thes 1:10 . .Wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the
    dead, that is Jesus, who delivers us from the wrath to come.

    1Thes 5:9-10 . . For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining
    salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, that whether we
    are awake or asleep, we may live together with Him

    287) 2Ths 2:3-4 . . Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall
    not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be
    revealed, the son of perdition; who opposes and exalts himself above all that
    is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sits in the temple of
    God, presenting himself that he is God.

    One of the salient features of the day of Christ is that there will be a one
    world religion. All currently known forms of religion will be banned upon
    penalty of death. That means Christianity in all its Protestant and Catholic
    forms and denominations will be illegal; as well as Islam, Mormonism,
    Baha'i, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, Scientology, et al, and even atheism
    and agnosticism-- everybody will be required to worship that man of sin; the
    son of perdition.

    The koiné Greek word for "falling away" is apostasia (ap-os-tas-ee'-ah)
    which means: defection from truth; viz: apostasy. This is not the same as
    heresy. An heretic stays with a church and undermines its unity by subtly
    introducing unapproved doctrines; while an apostate doesn't stay, but
    instead totally renounces a church and walks away; sort of like a Baptist
    switching over to Mormonism; and vice/versa.

    In the future; people will apostatize to save their skins and here's why:

    Rev 13:11-15 . . And I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and
    he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon. And he exercises
    all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And he makes the earth
    and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was
    healed. And he performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down
    out of heaven to the earth in the presence of men.

    . . . And he deceives those who dwell on the earth because of the signs
    which it was given him to perform in the presence of the beast, telling those
    who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who had the wound
    of the sword and has come to life. And there was given to him to give breath
    to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast might even speak and
    cause as many as do not worship the image of the beast to be killed.

    In my opinion, the man to fear is not the first beast, but the second because
    of his miraculous powers. Anyway since nobody on earth at present has
    fulfilled any of those predictions, then it's a safe bet that the day of Christ
    isn't in progress yet so don't worry about it. In point of fact, believers are
    commanded to abstain from worrying about it.

    288) 2Ths 2:15 . . So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions
    which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us.

    The "traditions" to which Paul refers are in two categories: (1) word of
    mouth, and (2) in writing. Seeing as how Paul and his contemporaries are no
    longer available for personal appearances, then the only reliable traditions in
    existence are the ones they left us in writing; viz: their letters; i.e. the
    epistles written by Paul, Peter, John, James, and Jude.

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    289) 2Ths 3:6-10 . . In the name of The Lord Jesus Christ, we command
    you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live
    according to the teaching you received from us. For you yourselves know
    how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with
    you, nor did we eat anyone's food without paying for it.

    . . . On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that
    we would not be a burden to any of you. We did this, not because we do not
    have the right to such help, but in order to make ourselves a model for you
    to follow. For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man
    will not work, he shall not eat."

    People unemployed due to circumstances beyond their control are exempt
    from that directive. It specifically targets what we here in the USA call a
    bum: which Webster's defines as someone who sponges off others not
    because they can't find work; but because they have an aversion to work;
    viz: they avoid work as if it were an inconvenient imposition on their leisure
    time.

    290) 2Ths 3:11-13 . .We hear that some among you are idle. They are not
    busy; they are busybodies. Such people we command and urge in The Lord
    Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the bread they eat. And as for you,
    brothers, never tire of doing what is right.

    Some might not think that holding down a job qualifies as worship but it
    certainly does. Working for a living is categorized as "doing what is right".

    John 4:23-24 . . Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true
    worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of
    worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship
    in spirit and in truth.

    291) 2Ths 3:14-15 . . If anyone does not obey our commands in this letter,
    take special note of him. Do not associate with him, in order that he may
    feel ashamed. Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a
    brother.

    Back then when churches were small cells meeting in private homes rather
    than auditoriums seating hundreds of people, it was easy to keep an eye on
    Christ's followers and hold their feet to the fire. Nowadays, forget it. Church
    sizes are such that management hasn't a clue what's going on in the lives of
    their membership roles. As a result, modern churches are permeated with
    conduct unbecoming.

    Mandatory consequences were usually for the purpose of discipline; viz:
    child rearing. So when officers ostracize one of Christ's followers, the
    congregation should keep in mind that the errant follower is one of their
    own: a sibling around the table in God's home. So wayward followers
    shouldn't be permanently culled from the herd as if they're the devil in
    disguise. They aren't devils; no, they're just naughty kids that deserve
    grounding, so to speak. (cf. 2Cor 2:6-11)

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    292) 1Tim 1:3-5 . . As I urged you when I went into Macedonia-- remain i
    Ephesus that you may charge some that they teach no other doctrine, nor
    give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which cause disputes rather
    than godly edification which is in faith.

    The epistles of Timothy and Titus are sometimes called the pastoral epistles
    because Paul's instructions target mainly church managers rather than
    congregations.

    The "no other doctrine" is the information he mentioned in another letter.

    2Ths 2:15 . . So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions
    which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us.

    It was one of The Lord's last wishes that his church be unified.

    John 17:11 . . And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the
    world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those
    whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

    The sphere of Christianity today isn't unified; and actually, hasn't been since
    the first century. Even while the apostles were still alive, even in their own
    day, professing Christians were already breaking away and starting apostate
    movements (e.g. Gal 1:6-9, 1Tim 1:3-4, 2Tim 2:15-18, 1John 2:18-19, Jud
    1:17-19). And churches were infested with counterfeit believers (2Cor
    11:13, 2Cor 11:26, Gal 2:4, 2Pet 2:1, 1John 4:1). It's just amazing how
    soon that happened.

    Somewhere within Christianity's world of chaos is Christ's unified church.
    One denomination says it's theirs, while another says it's theirs. Christianity
    truly is a world of confusion because not every church's managers are
    standing firm and holding to the traditions taught in the New Testament
    letters.

    293) 1Tim 2:1-2 . . First of all, then, I urge that entreaties and prayers,
    petitions and thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, for kings and all
    who are in authority, in order that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all
    godliness and dignity.

    I really don't think that passage is speaking of the common understanding of
    what we call intercession, rather that prayer be made in people's stead, i.e.
    do their praying for them by means of proxy prayer.

    Not all men, nor all kings, nor all in authority are people of prayer. In point
    of fact, I'd guess that most people never pray; not even on special
    occasions; and even so, there's a pretty good number of people throughout
    the world praying to the wrong deity. Well; it's possible, I don't know how,
    for Christians to be the voice of the world's prayer-challenged folk.

    Proxy prayer is unusual but not all that far fetched. For example Rom 8:26
    27 where the Spirit is shown praying in the saints' stead simply because
    when it comes to prayer; they're clumsy amateurs; even the best of them.

    Proxy prayer is hinted in the covenant that Yhvh's people agreed upon with
    God in the form of the morning and evening sacrifices (Ex 29:38-42, cf. Job
    1:5). Those sacrifices are offered without the people's consent just as Christ
    offered himself on the cross without the world's consent. But sans the cross
    and/or sans the morning and evening sacrifices, people would have very
    little association with God; if any.

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    294) 1Tim 2:8-9 . . I desire therefore that the men pray everywhere, lifting
    up holy hands, without wrath and evil thoughts.

    Lifting up one's hands is the posture of an anxious beggar seeking charity
    and compassion. Holy hands are hands dedicated to serving Christ faithfully,
    loyally, and effectively. Other kinds of hands should be kept at one's side till
    such a time as they qualify as holy.

    The koiné Greek word for "wrath" is orge (or-gay') which means: hot desire.
    Orge is sometimes translated anger, indignation, and vengeance. The idea is
    that a believer should never pray out of spite and/or use prayer as a tool to
    hurt somebody's feelings. That is the ugliest abuse of the privilege of prayer
    that I can possibly imagine. In my opinion, people who pray out of spite are
    no different than slanderers, witches, sorcerers and voodoo priests.
    Especially annoying are people who can't keep a civil tongue in their heads,
    and then have the nerve to say "you're in our prayers"

    295) 1Tim 2:9-10 . . In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in
    modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with braided hair, or
    gold, or pearls, or costly array; but (which becomes women professing piety)
    with good works.

    The Greek word for "sobriety" is sophrosune (so-fros-oo'-nay) which
    means soundness of mind; viz: sane, composed, and self controlled. A
    woman in the throes of hysteria, passionate rage, door-slamming, or a hissy
    fit doesn't fit the definition.

    Some folk, obsessed with asceticism, use that verse to prove it's wrong for
    women to use cosmetics and dress themselves in current fashions. But the
    passage doesn't forbid that. What it forbids is a woman putting a higher
    priority on her appearance than her character.

    The old adage "You can't judge a book by its cover" applies here as well as
    in literature. I've met women with tattoos, studs in their tongues,
    multicolored hair, fishnet stockings, outrageous earrings, tight-fitting concert
    tee shirts, low-slung hip huggers, and black lipstick that were really peaches
    while I've met dignified, neatly dressed women with horrible personalities.
    They say a rose in any language is still a rose; yeah, well, a pig, no matter
    how it's dressed, is still a pig whether in belly shirts and flip-flops or haute
    couture.

    Prv 11:22 . . An attractive woman who lacks discretion is like a gold ring in
    a pig's snout. (cf. 1Pet 3:1-6)

    The koiné Greek word for "shamefacedness" is aidos (ahee-doce') which
    means: bashfulness; which is just the opposite of insolence, impudence, and
    brazenness. Bashful people have a hard time looking people in the eye
    because they are so shy, non-confrontational, timid, self conscious, and non
    assertive. What we're looking at here relates to one of The Lord's beatitudes.

    Matt 5:3 . . Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of
    heaven.

    That's a very comforting beatitude because it confirms that there will be no
    difficult people permitted in the kingdom of heaven.

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    296) 1Tim 2:11 . . Let a woman quietly receive instruction with entire
    submissiveness.

    The koiné Greek word for "quietly" is hesuchia (hay-soo-khee'-ah) which
    mean: stillness; viz : desistance from bustle or language, i.e. comments and
    remarks.

    The submissiveness Paul is talking about is not abject servitude; but rather,
    deference.

    You know; it's okay for a woman to feel within herself equal to men. The
    truly strong women, the ones sure of themselves, don't have to demand
    equality; they've got it, they know it, and they're content with that. They
    don't feel a desperate urge to take a public stand on the issue via activism.

    I can think of very few other things that Christian women do to humiliate
    Christ than going to war over equality because there's nothing intrinsically
    holy about civil disobedience, belligerence, hostility, assertiveness,
    demands, and confrontational behavior; which a really sharp woman can
    rationalize and defend with the cleverest of sophistry, but she'll still be in the
    wrong.

    297) 1Tim 2:12-15 . . I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority
    over a man, but to remain quiet. For it was Adam who was first created, and
    then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being
    quite deceived, fell into transgression.

    In the "my" church of Matt 16:18, male Christians are the gender designated
    to captain the ships; not the females. I pity a church supervised by female
    managers and pastors. Why? Because it tells me that Christ is not active in
    that church providing it with the tools the congregation needs in order to
    serve him faithfully, loyally, and effectively. The men in that church need to
    lift up holy hands and pray that Christ send them males to replace the
    females; and if not, then the men should evacuate-- now! --while they can.

    298) 1Tim 2:15 . . Women shall be preserved through the bearing of
    children if they continue in faith and love and sanctity with self-restraint.

    In other words, it isn't necessary for women to be pastors, deacons, and/or
    adult Sunday school teachers in order to serve Christ faithfully, loyally, and
    effectively. Homemaking is just as high a calling as any in church.

    Can a female church manager or a pastor; continue in faith, love, and
    sanctity with self-restraint? In point of fact, it is a non sequitur to say a
    female church manager or pastor continues in faith. If she did, she would be
    neither a church manager nor a pastor. This is precisely why God rejected
    Cain's offering. It was a perfectly good offering, and no doubt Cain had
    brought God the very same thing in the past, but God rejected it that time
    because that's the one time that Cain failed to offer it in faith. (Gen 4:7, Heb
    11:4)

    299) 1Tim 3:2a . . An overseer, then, must be above reproach

    The koiné Greek word for "overseer" is episkopos (ep-is'-kop-os) which
    means: a superintendent; viz: church officers, e,g, pastors and deacons.

    Pastors and deacons of modern churches aren't really pastors in the true
    Biblical sense; they're actually managers. A true pastor is essentially a
    shepherd; which is totally different (and somewhat rare too). In point of
    fact, pastors no longer supervise churches at all; boards run churches, and
    pastors are merely employees; viz: hirelings.

    To tell the truth, I'm afraid of today's career pastors; I don't trust them, and
    do my best to avoid them because I don't feel safe in their presence; which
    is very abnormal. If there's anybody on God's green earth that The Lord's
    sheep should be able to trust, it's their local shepherd but far too many
    church managers today regard their congregations as numbers rather than
    responsibilities.

    Why must pastors be above reproach? Because the work they do is a "good"
    work (1Tim 3:1) but much good can be ruined by even a little wickedness.

    Ecc 10:1 . . Dead insects will cause even a bottle of perfume to stink! Yes,
    an ounce of foolishness can outweigh a pound of wisdom and honor.

    Before the wonders of modern chemistry, perfumes were made (and many
    still are) from animal and vegetable sources. Those, being 100% organic in a
    time when chemical preservatives didn't exists, could spoil if the perfumer
    wasn't careful to keep his product protected from exposure to temperature,
    insects, dirt, moisture, and other contaminants. All the skills and patience
    and knowledge exercised in the making of expensive ointments could be
    completely annulled by simply forgetting to put the cap (or the cork;
    whatever) back on a jar.

    Anyway, Ecc 10:1 certainly rings true in this day and age as the Roman
    Catholic Church's credibility steadily diminishes because of its ongoing
    pedophilia scandals and the hierarchy's deplorable cover-ups.

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    300) 1Tim 3:2b . . the husband of one wife

    That directive is a bit ambiguous. Some feel it says a pastor can have only
    one wife at a time; viz: not a polygamist; while others feel it says he can be
    married only once in his lifetime; viz: not a widower or a divorced man.

    I tend to think it means one wife at a time. If so; then this passage, and
    Titus 1:5-6 have the distinction of being the only places in the entire Bible
    prohibiting polygamy.

    However; the rule is very narrow. It specifically regulates the private life of a
    church's big shots, so it would be wrong to use those passages to justify
    forcing monogamy upon the rank and file. But, if polygamy conflicts with
    the laws of one's State of residence, then of course the State has the final
    say in that regard. (cf. Rom 13:1-5)

    301) 1Tim 3:2c . . temperate

    The koiné Greek word for "temperate" can be either nephaleos (nay-fal'-eh
    os); or nephalios (nay-fal'-ee-os) and means: sober. This kind of sobriety
    has nothing to do with alcohol rather it relates to an even-keeled
    personality: not overly silly, not overly excitable and not overly serious:
    right in the middle; viz: well-balanced.

    302) 1Tim 3:2d . . prudent

    The koiné word for "prudent" is sophron (so'-frone) which means: having a
    sound mind; viz: rational, reasonable, and sensible as opposed to emotional
    and reactive.

    303) 1Tim 3:2e . . respectable

    The koiné Greek word for "respectable" is kosmios (kos'-mee-os) which
    means: orderly, viz: decorous.

    Webster's defines decorous as marked by propriety; viz: correct; and
    exhibiting good taste in conduct, language, or appearance. A decorous
    person is-- among other things --neat, tidy, well-mannered, well-groomed,
    and polite. They bathe often too.

    304) 1Tim 3:2f . . hospitable

    The koiné word for "hospitable" is philoxenos (fil-ox'-en-os) which means:
    fond of guests. In other words, a pastor shouldn't be a hermit type, or a
    friendless loner who prefers solitude. Not that there's anything wrong with
    hermits and loners; it's just that pastors are supposed to be shepherds,
    which requires them to associate with the sheep entrusted to their care.
    A man who doesn't mingle easily and comfortably really should consider
    another line of work.

    305) 1Tim 3:2g . . able to teach

    Just because somebody can follow a lesson plan and/or knows the Bible from
    cover to cover doesn't mean they are qualified to lead Christ's sheep.
    Teaching for Christ requires a supernatural empowerment that gets through
    to people on a psychological level rather than only an academic level.

    According to the second chapter of Paul's first letter to the Corinthians: the
    aptitude to teach on a psychological level requires partnering with God if the
    man behind the lectern is to have any hope of success.

    306) 1Tim 3:3a . . not addicted to wine

    Pastors aren't forbidden alcohol; just too much alcohol.

    1Tim 5:23 . . No longer drink water exclusively, but use a little wine for
    the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments.

    A "little" wine can lead to a lot for someone with a predilection to over
    imbibe. For people like that, it's best to avoid wine altogether rather than
    risk becoming a candidate for AA. For pastors with health issues, I'd suggest
    confiding in a doctor because there are much better treatments available in
    our day than there were in Timothy's.

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    307) 1Tim 3:3b . . not pugnacious

    Webster's defines pugnacious as: militant, defensive, warlike, combative,
    confrontational, pushy, assertive, scrappy, and belligerent. Some men are
    natural-born bullies and others are ready to "take it outside" at every
    challenge. You sure don't want one of them in your pulpit. God forbid!

    308) 1Tim 3:3c . . gentle, non contentious

    A good pastor isn't what might be called shrinking; but rather, he's an
    affable, courageous man who selects his conflicts carefully. For some people,
    every disagreement is an act of war: they're assertive, demanding, reactive,
    defensive, and confrontational not just some of the time; but all the time. A
    gentle man is not so quick to draw his guns at the slightest provocation.
    However, though shepherds walk softly so as not to frighten the sheep; at
    the same time; they carry a big stick.

    309) 1Tim 3:3d . . free from the love of money.

    L. Ron Hubbard, founder of Scientology, started out as an author of pulp
    fiction novels for a penny per word. One day he came to the conclusion that
    the real money was in religion, especially if it had a non-profit tax
    exemption. Well; today, the net worth of just the top three of Scientology's
    upwards of thirty entities-- Scientology International, the Flag Service
    Organization, and the Church Of Spiritual Technology --is in the
    neighborhood of 1.5 billion dollars. The personal net worth of David
    Miscavige, Scientology's current head, is rumored to be somewhere around
    50 million. It's very curious how a supposedly non-profit church, and it's
    head, amassed such fortunes.

    Back in 1988-99, a tel-evangelist named James Orsen Bakker was sentenced
    to 45 years in Federal prison (later reduced to 8) for embezzling millions of
    dollars from his own ministry and using some of the money to construct an
    extravagant mansion-- complete with gold plumbing --for he and wife
    Tammy, and a luxurious kennel for their pet dog.

    I would highly recommend that a prospective pastor's background be
    checked before proceeding with the interview process. Is his credit good?
    Does he have gambling debts? Does he prefer gourmet foods and
    restaurants? Does he wear Armani suits, hand-made shoes, a Cartier wrist
    watch, and drive a Lexus? What's his current home worth? What part of
    town does he live in? . . because, unfortunately, there are men out there
    seeking careers in the business of religion, and are very good at finding
    ways to get their fingers in a church's treasury-- and not a few are looking
    for lucrative wage and benefit packages instead of an opportunity to serve
    Christ faithfully, loyally, and effectively; and to look out for his best interests
    instead of their own.

    310) 1Tim 3:4-5 . . He must manage his own family well, and see that his
    children obey him with proper respect. (If anyone does not know how to
    manage his own family, how can he take care of God's church?)

    There's respect, and then there's "proper" respect which has to be nurtured
    because a father cannot get proper respect by force. Tyranny doesn't earn
    respect; it earns fear, suspicion, mistrust, and dread. Instilling fear into the
    hearts of one's children is sure to backfire some day when they're older.

    Back in Ephesians, we pointed out that children are discouraged by fathers
    that abuse their human rights. Well, abusive pastors are just as bad.
    Despots and dictators are certain to discourage their congregations just as
    surely as abusive fathers break their children's spirit.

    Managing a home falls into the category of stewardship; which is a power
    very easily abused if one isn't careful. I would say that Joseph was a good
    steward because he didn't use his power for personal gain, but rather for the
    protection of the Egyptians under whom Pharaoh put his control. But not all
    stewards are like Joseph.

    Take for example Bhumibol Adulyadej, the late king of Thailand. His personal
    wealth at the time of his death was estimated to be 30 billion dollars. I really
    have to question the integrity of a steward who goes to his grave with 30
    billion dollars the meanwhile that poverty levels in his country are rising.

    311) 1Tim 3:6 . . He must not be a novice, or he may become conceited and
    fall under the same judgment as the Devil.

    A novice doesn't have enough life experience under his belt-- hard knocks
    and soft knocks, victory and defeat, accolades and disgrace, good luck and
    bad luck, success and failure, acceptance and rejection, mistakes and
    corrections, abundant opportunity and limited opportunity, poverty and
    riches, sorrow and happiness, faithful friends and back-stabbing friends, etc
    --to shepherd Christ's people. Youngsters coming out of seminaries these
    days think they're ready to take the reins? They haven't a clue.

    There's nothing wrong with a healthy self-image; but a conceited person is
    above and beyond; actually to the point of narcissism. They're infected with
    unbearable superiority complexes. But let me tell those fat heads
    something: the world was getting by just fine before you came along, and it
    will get by just fine after you're gone. Don't even think for a minute that you
    can't be replaced.

    A serious side effect of conceit is self reliance. In other words: it's possible to
    think of one's self as so competent, and so in with God, that they take His
    providence for granted; or worse, take it or leave it.

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    312) 1Tim 3:7 . . He must also have a good reputation with outsiders

    Paul lists that qualification as a must rather than an option.

    You know; that's all a church needs is to install a new pastor only to find out
    later he's the classic neighbor from Hell. Your new pastor might be a one
    eyed Jack in church, but the kids on his street, and the people whose
    property adjoins his, the post man, the convenience store, the gas station,
    the super market, the department store, the drive-up at McDonald's, the
    trick-or-treaters, the bank, the paperboy, etc, have all seen the other side of
    his face. It had better match the one he's shown you or your church's overall
    influence in the community will be in the tank; and you will have a man in
    the pulpit whom Christ does not approve, and with whom he does not care
    to associate.

    313) 1Tim 3:8-9 . . Deacons likewise must be men of dignity; etc, etc.

    That's another must.

    The koiné Greek word for "deacons" is diakonos (dee-ak'-on-os) which
    means: an attendant, i.e. (genitive case) a waiter (at table or in other
    menial duties). A deacon's duties and responsibilities are typically lower on
    the glamour scale than pastors and associate pastors.

    Deacons are supposed to serve as the pastors' go-fers; viz: his support.

    314) 1Tim 3:10 . . And let these also first be tested; then let them serve as
    deacons if they are beyond reproach.

    The very same interview process and background checks utilized in pastor
    selection is supposed to be applied to deacons. Paul cautioned his friend to
    "lay hands on no man suddenly" in other words; avoid being too hasty in
    appointing support staff.

    315) 1Tim 3:11 . . Women must likewise be dignified, not malicious gossips,
    but temperate, faithful in all things.

    Yes, there are female deacons and it's perfectly alright just so long as they
    accept the fact that they are in no way exempt from 1Cor 14:33-35, 1Tim
    2:9-10, 1Tim 2:12-15, and 1Tim 3:10.

    The koiné Greek word for "malicious gossips" is diabolos (dee-ab'-ol-os)
    which means: a traducer; which Webster's defines as someone who exposes
    others to shame or blame by means of falsehood and/or misrepresentation.

    Deaconesses are in a position to become privy to some sensitive information
    about their church and its members. It would be a serious violation of trust
    to blab about those things to people for whom those things are none of their
    business. We expect baby sitters to be mum about things that they see in
    our homes. Shouldn't the congregation have a right to expect as much from
    deaconesses?

    316) 1Tim 3:12-13 . . Let deacons be husbands of only one wife, and good
    managers of their children and their own households.

    Qualifications for deacons are very similar to those for the pastors they
    serve. (cf. 1Tim 3:2, 1Tim 3:4-6)

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    317) 1Tim 4:7a . . Have nothing to do with the worldly fantasies of withered
    old women.

    Paul isn't speaking of action comics and/or pulp novels that can be
    purchased at venders like Barnes & Noble and Borders; but rather, of the
    religious traditions that the seniors of every generation customarily pass
    down to the young; thus perpetuating non Christian beliefs and practices.

    The USA's indigenous cultural traditions would be a good example of this.
    When a Native American becomes a Christian, the Bible's God expects them
    to disown portions of their spiritual heritage, and let them go; not entirely of
    course; but certain elements like contacting the spirits of one's deceased
    ancestors would have to be scrubbed for sure.

    This is a very sensitive issue and one where non-native Christians,
    unschooled in Indigenous culture, seriously need to tread lightly. The White
    Man's early attempts to completely wipe out everything Native American was
    a terrible mistake that today's non-native Christians have got to be extra
    careful not to repeat.

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    318) 1Tim 4:7b-8 . .Train yourself to be pious. For physical training is of
    some value, but piety has value for all things, holding promise for both the
    present life and the life to come.

    Physical training like baseball practice makes a player like Derek Jeter a whiz
    at short stop. While his mind is deciding what best to do with the ball, his
    body's reflexes automatically carry out its decision without Derek having to
    think about it. That comes from conditioning. But Jeter's baseball ability is
    only good for when he's playing baseball, not for everything he does in life;
    while piety moderates everything, including one's conduct on the playing
    field.

    319) 1Tim 4:11 . . Command and teach these things.

    I believe Paul was referring to everything he wrote in his letter; not just the
    last few verses.

    320) 1Tim 4:12 . . Let no one look down on your youthfulness, but rather in
    speech, conduct, love, faith and purity, show yourself an example of those
    who believe.

    It's commonly assumed that Timothy was too young to be a pastor; but I
    rather think he was just inexperienced; i.e. a novice. In that respect; even a
    man of 60 recently ordained to the ministry is a youth; viz: an amateur.

    321) 1Tim 4:14 . . Focus upon the public reading of scripture, and to
    preaching and teaching.

    Had Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. complied with that directive instead of getting
    involved in politics; he might still be alive today.

    There are scholars who specialize in debunking cults and isms; for example
    Walter Martin, whose excellent work "The Kingdom Of The Cults" should be
    in every Christian's library. However, it is not a pastor's responsibility to
    debunk cults and isms nor is it in the best interests of his congregation for
    him to do so. His responsibility is to ensure the scriptures are read aloud,
    and that preaching and teaching are the norm because by doing so, his flock
    will grow in grace and in the knowledge of the Bible's God. (cf. Eph 4:11-16)

    Public reading was necessary because of the scarcity of Bibles in those days.
    All of them were hand-written, and none were mass-produced like now.

    Scripture in those days would have been pretty much limited to the Old
    Testament since the New Testament's canon had not yet been compiled. The
    Old Testament is very important because it is impossible for believers to
    obtain a full understanding of The Lord's mission and purpose without a
    comprehensive knowledge of the Old Testament.

    "And he said unto them, These are the words which I spoke unto you, while
    I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the
    law of Moses, and in the Prophets, and in the Psalms, concerning me. Then
    opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures."
    (Luke 24:44-45)

    "The holy scriptures are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith
    which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is
    profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in
    righteousness: that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly furnished
    unto all good works." (2Tim 3:15-17)

    "For whatever was written in earlier times was written for our instruction,
    that through perseverance and the encouragement of the scriptures we
    might have hope." ( Rom 15:4)

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    322) 1Tim 4:15-16 . . Be diligent in these matters; give yourself wholly to
    them, so that everyone may see your progress.

    A pastor can progress in only one of two directions. If he goes downwards,
    as the Laodicean pastor of Rev 4:14-20; that's not progress, that's regress;
    which Webster's defines as: movement backward to a previous, and
    especially worse, or more primitive, state or condition. This doesn't mean
    that a church's facility needs paint and its weeds sprayed with Roundup.
    We're talking about a pastor's personal spiritual condition. He may be the
    head honcho of an illustrious, impressive, big-city church campus, and still
    be in a condition of regression because it's not the outside of a church that
    testifies to a pastor's true spiritual condition, but rather, his own insides; for
    example:

    Matt 23:27-28 . . You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on
    the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and all kinds of
    impurity. In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous
    but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

    The koiné Greek word for "hypocrisy" is hupokrisis (hoop-ok'-ree-sis) which
    means acting under a feigned part. Hypocrisy is a lucrative profession for
    people employed in movies, sit-coms, and soaps. But that's okay because
    it's all above board. We know they're just playing roles and they're not
    trying to get by with anything; but a pastor is not supposed to be an actor;
    he's supposed to be a man of integrity: which roughly means for somebody
    to be the same on the inside as they are on the outside.

    323) 1Tim 5:1a . . When speaking to an older man, appeal to him
    respectfully as though he were your own father.


    There's probably nothing more humiliating to a parent than to be treated like
    dirt by their children-- except maybe to be treated like dirt by a spouse.

    Americans have the right to a trial by a jury of their peers. Well, a child is
    not a parent's peer; he's not even the parent's equal let alone his peer.
    Parents are not children's peers; no, parents are their betters, not their
    equals. It's a thoughtless, wicked, insolent dunce who treats their parents
    with no more respect than one of their college beer buddies.

    I was in a Sunday school class one morning where a young fellow
    substituted for the regular teacher. After practically every sentence during
    his lecture, the fellow would pause, tighten his lips, turn down the corners of
    his mouth, squint his eyes into narrow slits, and look around the room with a
    judgmental attitude, and better than half that room was older than he was. I
    don't know about the rest of the group, but as a man easily twice his age; I
    deeply resented those looks.

    324) 1Tim 5:1b . .Speak to the younger men as you would to your own kin.

    In this case, the "kin" would be sort of like a man's younger siblings; viz: his
    kid brothers. Young boys look up to their big brothers; who by all rights
    should be setting the example as role models that a growing boy can be
    proud of. Big brothers ought to be available too, and not treat their younger
    siblings as excess baggage and/or un-cool nerds and morons who are
    beneath their dignity to be seen with.

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    322) 1Tim 4:15-16 . . Be diligent in these matters; give yourself wholly to
    them, so that everyone may see your progress.

    A pastor can progress in only one of two directions. If he goes downwards,
    as the Laodicean pastor of Rev 4:14-20; that's not progress, that's regress;
    which Webster's defines as: movement backward to a previous, and
    especially worse, or more primitive, state or condition. This doesn't mean
    that a church's facility needs paint and its weeds sprayed with Roundup.
    We're talking about a pastor's personal spiritual condition. He may be the
    head honcho of an illustrious, impressive, big-city church campus, and still
    be in a condition of regression because it's not the outside of a church that
    testifies to a pastor's true spiritual condition, but rather, his own insides; for
    example:

    Matt 23:27-28 . . You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on
    the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and all kinds of
    impurity. In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous
    but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

    The koiné Greek word for "hypocrisy" is hupokrisis (hoop-ok'-ree-sis) which
    means acting under a feigned part. Hypocrisy is a lucrative profession for
    people employed in movies, sit-coms, and soaps. But that's okay because
    it's all above board. We know they're just playing roles and they're not
    trying to get by with anything; but a pastor is not supposed to be an actor;
    he's supposed to be a man of integrity: which roughly means for somebody
    to be the same on the inside as they are on the outside.

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    323) 1Tim 5:1a . . When speaking to an older man, appeal to him
    respectfully as though he were your own father.

    There's probably nothing more humiliating to a parent than to be treated like
    dirt by their children-- except maybe to be treated like dirt by a spouse.

    Americans have the right to a trial by a jury of their peers. Well, a child is
    not a parent's peer; he's not even the parent's equal let alone his peer.
    Parents are not children's peers; no, parents are their betters, not their
    equals. It's a thoughtless, wicked, insolent dunce who treats their parents
    with no more respect than one of their college beer buddies.

    I was in a Sunday school class one morning where a young fellow
    substituted for the regular teacher. After practically every sentence during
    his lecture, the fellow would pause, tighten his lips, turn down the corners of
    his mouth, squint his eyes into narrow slits, and look around the room with a
    judgmental attitude, and better than half that room was older than he was. I
    don't know about the rest of the group, but as a man easily twice his age; I
    deeply resented those looks.

    324) 1Tim 5:1b . .Speak to the younger men as you would to your own
    kin.

    In this case, the "kin" would be sort of like a man's younger siblings; viz: his
    kid brothers. Young boys look up to their big brothers; who by all rights
    should be setting the example as role models that a growing boy can be
    proud of. Big brothers ought to be available too, and not treat their younger
    siblings as excess baggage and/or un-cool nerds and morons who are
    beneath their dignity to be seen with.

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    325) 1Tim 5:2 . . Speak to the older women as mothers, and the younger
    women as sisters, in all purity.

    The koiné Greek word for "purity" is hagneia (hag-ni'-ah) which means:
    cleanliness; viz: chastity

    Webster's defines "chastity" as: abstention from unlawful sexual intercourse
    and/or purity in conduct and intention

    Pastors are in an advantageous position for meeting women; thus
    opportunities for trysts abound; as the news media often attests. That's just
    what every church needs is a pastor who uses his position as a means to
    cruise chicks isn't it? According to 1Tim 5:2, a man who does that is, in all
    practicality, an incestuous older brother.

    Speaking to older women as mothers means doing so in deference to the
    fourth of the Ten Commandments. Is there benefit to a pastor who keeps a
    civil tongue in his head and respects the feelings of the older women in his
    congregation? Yes.

    Eph 6:1-3 . . Honor your father and mother-- which is the first of the
    commandments that contains a promise; which is: that it may go well with
    you and that you may enjoy long life on the earth.

    There's really not much that's more hurtful to a mother than an insolent,
    arrogant child.

    326) 1Tim 5:3-4 . . Give proper recognition to those widows who are really
    in need. But if a widow has children or grandchildren, her kin should learn
    first of all to put their religion into practice by caring for their own family and
    so repaying their parents and grandparents, for this is pleasing to God.

    A widow in real need would be one who is unable to work and has no one of
    her own to look out after her. Here in modern America that situation isn't
    nearly as serious as it is in third world countries where there are no
    government assistance programs for senior citizens. So you can see that in
    those circumstances a widow's church may be the only thing between her
    and grinding poverty.

    A widow's Christian offspring have a sacred obligation to provide for their
    aging ancestors.

    1Tim 5:8 . .Those who won't care for their own kin, especially those living
    in the same household, have disregarded what we believe. Such people are
    worse than infidels.

    327) 1Tim 5:5-7 . .The widow who is really in need, and left all alone, puts
    her hope in God and continues night and day to pray and to ask God for
    help. But the widow who lives for pleasure is dead even while she lives. Give
    the people these instructions, too, so that no one may be open to blame.

    The New Testament Greek word for "pleasure" means voluptuous; which
    Webster's defines as luxury and/or sensual gratification.

    People who live only for the best that life has to offer generally regard
    religion as a ball and chain holding them back from living their lives to the
    fullest. Well; not everyone has access to either the means or the
    wherewithal to live life to the fullest. For some, life offers no options other
    than a tin shack, a dirt floor, and a bowl of white rice; if that.

    Paul says to decline widows whose goal is to satisfy their appetite for the
    best that life has to offer. As it's said that one cannot serve God and money,
    well neither can one serve God and one's inherent cravings. True, you can't
    stop yourself from having cravings for the best that life has to offer; but you
    can choose whether to let them be the dominant force in your life.

    Mark 4:18-19 . . Still others, like seed sown among thorns, hear the word;
    but the concerns of this life, the deceitfulness of wealth, and the desires for
    other things come in and choke the word, making it unfruitful.

    328) 1Tim 5:9-10 . . No widow may be put on the list of widows unless she
    is over sixty, has been faithful to her husband, and is well known for her
    good deeds, such as bringing up children, showing hospitality, washing the
    feet of the saints, helping those in trouble and devoting herself to all kinds of
    good deeds.

    There are unprincipled individuals out there who love nothing better than
    taking advantage of a church's good nature, and its desire to be helpful.
    Following Paul's directive is a good way to avoid being victimized by one of
    them. (cf. Ruth 2:11)

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