BIBLE SAYS WHAT?

[PS95]

Dear Jehovahs Witnesses,

Christians are constantly accused about teachings that you say are not in the bible.
Your turn. .............WHERE DOES THE BIBLE SAY any of this ?


"He had to become a perfect man and yet not lose his continuity of life. His life-force was not to be extinguished but would be transferred to the ovum of the virgin girl, Mary." WT 2-15-82 p. 7

Or this?-
"God provided the perfect man whose life could ransom the human race, by transferring the life force of his chief angelic Son in the heavens to the womb of a virgin." WT 3-1-60 p.133

or this?
after Jesus was buried in the tomb, Jehovah dissolved his body into gasses and it disappeared forever. (WT 09/01/53 p. 518; Time...Hand p. 129)

I have a ton more...

 

[PS95]

It's a basic question & very fair question. And one that shows the deep hypocrisy of JW.org and it's members. Jws teach that Michael the archangel's life force ( spirit-which is like electrical current nothing according to them) was put into Mary's ovum. (egg)
Normally, when the egg is fertilized which is what this is suggesting, the egg = Mother and Fertilizer = Father. Wouldn't that mean JW Jesus is the son of Michael? Why yes, it would.

"...thus the spirit could not have personality but must be an impersonal force...electric current never takes on the characteristics of the machines or appliances in which it functions." AWAKE! 8-8-72, p.27

"The spirit has no thought, feeling, or intelligence." AWAKE! 7-8-49 p.26


"The spirit is much like electricity, which activates many things but does not take on their qualities." Is This Life All There Is?, 1974, p.51

WHERE DOES THE BIBLE SAY ANY OF THIS?

 

[PS95]

It's a basic question & very fair question. And one that shows the deep hypocrisy of JW.org and it's members.
Jws teach that Michael the archangel's life force ( spirit-which is like electrical current nothing according to them) was put into Mary's ovum. (egg)
Normally, when the egg is fertilized which is what this is suggesting, the egg = Mother and Fertilizer = Father.
Wouldn't that mean JW Jesus is the son of Michael? Why yes, it would.

"...thus the spirit could not have personality but must be an impersonal force...electric current never takes on the characteristics of the machines or appliances in which it functions." AWAKE! 8-8-72, p.27

"The spirit has no thought, feeling, or intelligence." AWAKE! 7-8-49 p.26


"The spirit is much like electricity, which activates many things but does not take on their qualities." Is This Life All There Is?, 1974, p.51

WHERE DOES THE BIBLE SAY ANY OF THIS?

crickets

 

[PS95]

So, is Michael Jesus' dad? I'm serious. Look at what you are teaching!
Michael's life force tranferred to Mary's egg

 

[PS95]

Can I get a reply from Jws? What is an impersonal life force? If it's impersonal and was put into Mary's egg- whose son does that make Jesus?
Michaels ?..since his life force was put into mary's egg? Wouldnt that make God the Father His grandfather? I'm serious.
What does any of that mean? Where did it come from?
How did that affect Jesus- being an "angelic impersonal life force" and a man?
what does any of that mean?
Where is any of that in the bible?
Doesn't Hebrews say the God's Son was not an angel?
...and that the world to come was not given to angels?

who are you going to believe? The scriptures or the Watchtower?

 

[PS95]

Can I get a reply from Jws? What is an impersonal life force? If it's impersonal and was put into Mary's egg- whose son does that make Jesus?
Michaels ?..since his life force was put into mary's egg? Wouldnt that make God the Father His grandfather? I'm serious.
What does any of that mean?
How did that affect Jesus- being an "angelic impersonal life force" and a man?
what does any of that mean?
Where is any of that in the bible?
Doesn't Hebrews say the Lord was not an angel?
and that the world to come was not given to angels?

JWs--Can we please get an answer?

 

[Jack]

So, is Michael Jesus' dad? I'm serious. Look at what you are teaching!
Michael's life force tranferred to Mary's egg

Michael is an angel and WORSHIPS Jesus.

Heb 1 Let ALL God's angels worship Him.

 

[PS95]

and Rev 5:11-14
all creatures- every created thing. .. in heaven and earth & under the earth & sea and ALl in them. ALL OF CREATION.

Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne and the living creatures and the elders; and the number of them was myriads of myriads, and thousands of thousands, saying with a loud voice,
“Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power and riches and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing.”
And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying, “To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever.”
And the four living creatures kept saying, “Amen.” And the elders fell down and worshiped.

Again.. Why dont the scriptures agree with the Watchtower?
EVERY CREATED THING.

 

[PS95]

Jws? yoohooo
come on and read your bibles..

 

[Pearl]

or this?
after Jesus was buried in the tomb, Jehovah dissolved his body into gasses and it disappeared forever. (WT 09/01/53 p. 518; Time...Hand p. 129)

So how come the BIBLE says he appeared to His disciples? Don't JWs or Watchtower slaves believe that Jesus rose from the dead bodily and was seen by many of His followers before His ascension?

 

[Pearl]

Can I get a reply from Jws? What is an impersonal life force? If it's impersonal and was put into Mary's egg- whose son does that make Jesus?
Michaels ?..since his life force was put into mary's egg? Wouldnt that make God the Father His grandfather? I'm serious.
What does any of that mean? Where did it come from?
How did that affect Jesus- being an "angelic impersonal life force" and a man?
what does any of that mean?
Where is any of that in the bible?
Doesn't Hebrews say the God's Son was not an angel?
...and that the world to come was not given to angels?

who are you going to believe? The scriptures or the Watchtower?

I hope any of the watchtower slaves who read your posts are truly convicted by the Holy Spirit into taking hold of a version of the bible not acceptable to that organisation and be led to read the truth.

 

[PS95]

I hope any of the watchtower slaves who read your posts are truly convicted by the Holy Spirit into taking hold of a version of the bible not acceptable to that organisation and be led to read the truth.

Hi Pearl!
I dont have their latest bible version, but the older ones were purposefully worded so that it was difficult to understand. Mental gymnastics!
However, some truth can still be found. It's just not easy! The Holy Spirit can lead them. But to them the Holy Spirit is just electricity.
Maybe it's what impersonal life force is? I think I see a pattern............... seems spirit is life force to them?
I was taught spirit is just your breath. hmm
You see they just make stuff up!!?

 

[PS95]

So how come the BIBLE says he appeared to His disciples? Don't JWs or Watchtower slaves believe that Jesus rose from the dead bodily and was seen by many of His followers before His ascension?

They say he used a body. Wasn't his.

 

[PGS11]

They have a different Jesus who was a angel not the son of God good luck pushing that in a christian forum.

 

[PS95]

They have a different Jesus who was a angel not the son of God good luck pushing that in a christian forum.

Yes, and that's only the tip of the iceberg with their false teachings.
How about Jesus' death does not pay for our sins.--- Instead, when they physically die they have paid for their own sins.
They push their rhetoric all day long in these forums but dont identify themselves.
They are generally not up front about their teachings!!! It's a part of the deceit.
I dont know why they have access to these forums, frankly.
This is not an "unorthodox" church.

 

[Pearl]

These cults that preach a false gospel, such as the Watchtower Org and Catholics, have denied hundreds of thousands of their followers the right to know Jesus and be born again and filled with the Holy Spirit. And has denied them the knowledge that results in eternal life in Christ. They are evil.

 

[PS95]

They say he used a body. Wasn't his.

So, essentially, Jesus would have lied to his disciples. when he said,
“See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have. "
Luke 24:39

 

[PGS11]

So the church broke up because the sacraments were called a doctrine of works to faith alone.Please explain how these sacraments returned in different forms in these churches who rejected them,Could it be the holy spirit at work.What happened to faith alone looks like it got tossed.Yes there is Baptism, sacred marriage , healing oils there is even a form of communion in these churches of course they won't touch confession with a ten foot pole.Seems it has all come back.

 

[PS95]

These cults that preach a false gospel, such as the Watchtower Org and Catholics, have denied hundreds of thousands of their followers the right to know Jesus and be born again and filled with the Holy Spirit. And has denied them the knowledge that results in eternal life in Christ. They are evil.

I am not familiar with the catholics in that regard.

But JWS- yes, absolutely. The leaders flat out ROB them of Jesus in every way!
I doubt it can get worse than this cult religion.
and then they have the audacity to take His place of mediatorship.

 

[PS95]

So the church broke up because the sacraments were called a doctrine of works to faith alone.Please explain how these sacraments returned in different forms in these churches who rejected them,Could it be the holy spirit at work.What happened to faith alone looks like it got tossed.Yes there is Baptism, sacred marriage , healing oils there is even a form of communion in these churches of course they won't touch confession with a ten foot pole.Seems it has all come back.

? was that to me? This thread is about JWs-