Bible stories that aren’t actually in the Bible - share yours.

[NotTheRock]

Here is one example to get us started. It's about the story of Noah. I've seen various accounts portraying people mocking Noah for building the ark. However, I don't see anything in Genesis to confirm those portrayals. It's possible that Noah was teased but it's not a Biblical fact, unless I missed it.

 

[Webers_Home]

I've seen various accounts portraying people mocking Noah for building the ark. However, I
don't see anything in Genesis to confirm those portrayals. It's possible that Noah was teased but
it's not a Biblical fact, unless I missed it.

There is a knowledge of the Bible in text, and there is a knowledge of the
Bible in spirit.

For example: the Bible says nothing about Noah enduring ridicule, but we
know from the normal round of human experience that kooks get picked on.

Here's another example:

Someone in my Sunday school class once asked the leader how Peter knew
the names of the two men with Jesus on the mountain per Matt 17:1-4. One
of the students suggested that Peter picked up their names from overhearing
the conversation Jesus was having with them. Well; the Bible doesn't say so
but we know from the normal round of human experience that's very likely how
Peter found out.
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[PGS11]

In the Catholic bible there is the Book of Tobit which is a great story a love story. It was removed because the angel did not identify himself at first so Luther though there was deception there and had it removed.It would make a great movie surprised they haven't done it.Its got everything in it even a happy ending.

 

[Webers_Home]

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Artists typically portray Mary and Joseph traveling to Bethlehem alone with
Jesus' mom riding on the back of a donkey. Well; that's very unlikely seeing
as how Mary was in her third trimester and so close to delivery. It's far more
likely Joseph transported her lying down in the bed of a wagon.

It's also doubtful they made the journey alone. Joseph was going to
Bethlehem because he was related to David; which means his kinfolks were
too.

Nativity scenes typically include the wise men. But Jesus was in a house
when they arrived instead of a stable.

Quite a few planetariums put on a show during Christmas displaying a
planetary alignment that they propose represents the star that the wise men
followed. But Bethlehem is north of Jerusalem. Well; stars move from east to
west; they do not move from south to north, and stars don't hover, they are
constantly in motion like the works of a huge clock.

Also: without special instruments it is nigh unto impossible to tell which of
the stars way out in space is directly over a specific house in your
neighborhood. In other words; their star wasn't a celestial object, rather, it
was an apparition; and it was low enough that they could easily tell the
exact house in Bethlehem wherein Jesus was lodged.

NOTE: There are significant differences between the shepherds' adventure
and the wise mens' adventure.

The shepherds had to search for Jesus' location in Bethlehem whereas the
wise men were led directly to it. Also: the shepherds were seeking a savior
whereas the wise men came for a monarch.
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[Jay Ross]

Nativity scenes typically include the wise men. But Jesus was in a house
when they arrived instead of a stable.

Our understanding of the story surrounding the Birth of Christ is based on assumptions. The length of time that Joseph, Mary and Christ remained in Bethlehem was just a few days, before they fled down towards Egypt because of Herod's order to kill all of the children in Bethlehem at that time under 2 years old. Herod died within a few days of the children under two years of age being killed in Bethlehem and Joseph, Mary and Christ returned to the land of Canaan but because of Herod's son now ruling in place of his father, they continued travelling up to Nazareth. When Mary's time for purification came, they travelled back down to Jerusalem to the Temple, they presented Jesus to God as was the custom for the first born of the family, and Mary complied with the "law" for her purification. For Mary's purification, she had to wait for 40 days to pass, from the time of Christ's birth, before she could enter the Temple for her purification. The family then returned to Nazareth.

Was Joseph, Mary and Jesus living in a house when the Wise Men arrived to give homage or was the Stable still their dwelling place when the wise men arrived.

The chronological order of all of the events surrounding the birth of Christ does not make any sense if we just follow the "tradition" that has grown up around the story of Jesus's birth and his first few months of life.

 

[Webers_Home]

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Back in the day, biblical movies were very popular. One of those old time
features told the story of Samson, starring Victor Mature.

Well; Victor was a really husky guy and perfect for the role; except that
in real life his enemies couldn't tell by looking at Samson from whence he
got so much strength. But you can just imagine what a colossal box office
failure the movie would've been had Cecil B. DeMille portrayed Samson as an
ordinary man instead of a powerful dude with the physique of a Grecian god.
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[St. SteVen]

Here is one example to get us started. It's about the story of Noah. I've seen various accounts portraying people mocking Noah for building the ark. However, I don't see anything in Genesis to confirm those portrayals. It's possible that Noah was teased but it's not a Biblical fact, unless I missed it.

That's a good one. The Genesis narrative does not support the story we tell to our toddlers at church.
Some use this scripture below to support the idea. But even this doesn't say that Noah was criticized. or mocked.
I think that story was cooked up to make us hate people outside of the church. (Calvinism's total depravity) ???

The results of that attitude are VERY unfortunate. Us vs them. (tribalism)

2 Peter 2:4-5 NIV
For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,[a]
putting them in chains of darkness[b] to be held for judgment;
5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people,
but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;

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[Ronald Nolette]

Here is one example to get us started. It's about the story of Noah. I've seen various accounts portraying people mocking Noah for building the ark. However, I don't see anything in Genesis to confirm those portrayals. It's possible that Noah was teased but it's not a Biblical fact, unless I missed it.

Well given teh fact that it had never rained and Noah warned people it would, and He built a boat the size of a frigate, though not explicitly said, because no one got on the boat with him, and that peoples heart were evil and other biblical considerations it is strongly implied there was mocking going on.

 

[St. SteVen]

it is strongly implied there was mocking going on.

Complete conjecture. Nothing to back that up in the biblical account.
Did God even make room for other humans to come along?

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[NotTheRock]

2 Peter 2:4-5 NIV
For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,[a]
putting them in chains of darkness[b] to be held for judgment;
5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people,
but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;

I know there's a great point in there but it's over my head. Can you explain it, please?

 

[NotTheRock]

Well given teh fact that it had never rained and Noah warned people it would, and He built a boat the size of a frigate, though not explicitly said, because no one got on the boat with him, and that peoples heart were evil and other biblical considerations it is strongly implied there was mocking going on.

My point is that we hear many Bible stories that aren't necessarily biblical. I don't think it's a big deal. I'm just making conversation.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Complete conjecture. Nothing to back that up in the biblical account.
Did God even make room for other humans to come along?

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Well as god knows all, He knew none of the inhabitants would respond top Noahs 120 years of preaching. It is conjecture, but conjecture based on 6000 years of humanb history with people responding with evil in their heart and desire.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

My point is that we hear many Bible stories that aren't necessarily biblical. I don't think it's a big deal. I'm just making conversation.

OK

 

[Webers_Home]

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Re: Noah, a preacher of righteousness,

I attended a couple of Billy Graham's crusades back in the decade of the 1970s. Prior to
his message, Billy offered the crowd quite a bit of entertainment.

Well; I imagine that after a while, the ark became a popular tourist attraction, and when
enough people were assembled to make it worth his while, Noah would come down off
the scaffolding and explain to the people exactly why he was constructing a heretofore
never seen titanic water craft.

In the course of his explanation Noah would no doubt fiercely pound on his sawhorse
work table like an olde world Billy Graham pulpit and point his grizzled construction
worker's finger at the tourists like a deadly weapon as he accused them of corruption
and violence. In other words: they weren't going to drown due to a freak storm, no,
they were going to be wiped out because God wanted them all exterminated.

● Gen 6:5-8 . .The Lord saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and
that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time. The Lord was
grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain. So the
Lord said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth-- men
and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air --for I am
grieved that I have made them."

● Gen 6:11-1 . . Now the earth was corrupt in God's sight and was full of violence. God
saw how corrupt the earth had become, for all the people on earth had corrupted their
ways. So God said to Noah: "I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled
with violence because of them."

* You know, I can't help but scoff at the rhetoric of the greenies clamoring about climate
change when the real danger to this planet isn't fossil fuels, no, the real danger is the
possibility of the depths of mankind's impiety sinking to a point of no return like it did
back in the days of Noah.
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[Webers_Home]

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Artistic depictions of Noah's ark typically include a pointy bow.

Well; the ark didn't have to navigate; so there was no practical use for a pointy bow.
And since it didn't have to cut through the water like a schooner, then it didn't need
tapered undersides. The ark's primary task was to stay afloat and not sink. All in all, it
was little more than a barge: and a very crude barge at that. Really little more than a
very large watertight crate.
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[Webers_Home]

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I've watched a number of films pertaining to the so-called Rapture and every
one of them left out the part where the remains of 2,000 years of deceased
Christians from all over the globe will be restored to life.

The films also left out the part where Jesus' followers rise into the air to
meet him. Instead the films showed them here one second and gone the
next, but I rather suspect the real event will resemble a human Oort
Cloud impossible to ignore.

The event is likely to get pretty noisy too what with all the cheering,
laughing, and shouting that's sure to take place when Jesus' followers
receive their new bodies; which of course will be forever full of pep and
immune to age. (1Cor 15:51-53)

The films also showed tiny children being taken while their parents are left
behind. That's highly doubtful because minors have often been collateral
damage when God slammed their parents, e.g. zero children survived the
Flood, and 120,00 would've been lost had God followed thru with His threat
to annihilate Nineveh.
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[Jay Ross]

Well; the ark didn't have to navigate; so there was no practical use for a pointy bow.
And since it didn't have to cut through the water like a schooner, then it didn't need
tapered undersides. The ark's primary task was to stay afloat and not sink. All in all, it
was little more than a barge: and a very crude barge at that. Really little more than a
very large watertight crate.

This assumption is just that but the orally recorded stories around the events of the flood tells us that there was great turmoil in the flood waters caused by the wind and the mountain ranges acting like bars so that some shape was required for the ark to be able to handle these conditions, otherwise all boats would just be a box shaped which is the simplest to build but the weakest structural form for the ark to take.

Constructed three dimensional curves create the strongest shape for a boat. The boat should be slender, i.e. the length to width ratio should be much greater that one, so that it can track the wind. The stern of the boat should be the highest part of the boat above water so that the stern's elevated structure acts as like a rudder in the wind such that it steers the boat's bow into the wind and the wind generated waves.

The boat should have a reasonable draft so that the centre of gravity can be as low as possible to improve the stability of the boat so that it is self-righting. The keel of the boat should be such that it helps to keep the boat tracking on a relatively straight course. The draft also gives the boat better longitudinal strength.

I have only listed a few of the "passive consideration" that are used to build a safe boat that can be lived on for long periods of time without setting foot om dry land.

The story of Noah and the ark does not tell us how Noah build the ark or any of the "engineering" that went into the ark. Neither are we told how Noah was able to feed the animals on the ark or how much food was stored for the animals and his family or whether God miraculously replenished the food that was on board the ark.

All of these "design considerations," which we are not told, only get in the way of the story of the flood and how God set in place His Salvation plan for the eight people that went into the ark during the flood which lasted around 12 months.


Shalom

 

[Webers_Home]

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The cubit of Noah's day remains a total mystery. We have no way of
knowing exactly how long it was. Maybe Noah and his boys passed on their
antediluvian knowledge of weights and measures to the post-flood world and
it stayed pretty close to the original standards over the years; but it's
impossible to know for sure.

But if we use an 18-inch cubit as a close approximation, then the ark would
have been in the neighborhood of 450' long x 75' wide x 45' high. The ark's
beam was 30 feet wider than its height, so should have proved very stable,
and difficult to capsize even in rough seas-- especially since it had a flat
bottom, which was good too for the purpose intended. Water craft
constructed with tapered sides and/or rounded hulls tend to roll very easily
and make passengers seasick.

Compared to modern ships, 450 feet is not all that big. Oil tankers are
around 1,500, and the Nimitz aircraft carrier is about 1,092 feet. The
distance from home plate to the center field fence in major league baseball,
averages 400 feet or better. So the ark would just about fit into Yankee
stadium.

Some folks object that a wooden vessel the size of the ark would never hold
up on the open sea without steel reinforcement; especially when the super
storm of Gen 8:1 began blowing to remove the water. But those skeptics
typically neglect to factor a supreme being into their thinking.

With the creator's involvement, even a house of cards would've survived the
Flood had He wished it to because the strength of natural materials isn't
fixed; they can be greatly enhanced, e.g. Samson (Judg 13:2-16:31). He
was just an ordinary man of flesh and bone; but God made Samson strong
enough to do things that no one man alone could possibly accomplish
unassisted.
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