Black and white as it appears?

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Ernie

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I've considered myself a lifelong Christian, I've also posed another question on here about "hope" more then "certainty"...has anyone else ever questioned whether it is as black and white to get into paradise as we hear? I mean we as Christians debate tooth and nail as to what it takes...baptism, no baptism , pre destination, free will...etc

Interestingly enough Ive had my own questions as someone very introspective, very analytical etc....however it is a bit challenging. As I said earlier , I have considered myself a Christian since I can remember. During the summer of 95 I had what I thought was a "being saved" moment...someone prayed for me, and I did think I "felt" something and I certainly felt a change...only for years later to hear "feelings don't matter!" from many circles of Christianity. So I have to ask was all that just emotions and not true? Kind of goes along with a time I was going through some pretty severe anxiety, I clinged to the Bible and kept nothing but Christian tv on, only to find out they are all terrible and false teachers!(Sarcasm) , and here I think I am at the best I have ever been in following Christ. I know we must most certainly use our God given discernment, but still i get tired of hearing the everyone is a false teacher argument. So with that said, especially with my mindset it is very difficult, kind of like throwing my hands in the air and saying how do we know? I hope you can see where I am coming from.

It just makes me wonder if getting into paradise is as black and white as we are taught, especially when some Christian views on entering are so severely different (specifically thinking of the baptism vs no baptism being necessary). Listening to other views is it possible that our views whichever side we are on aren't 100 percent accurate?
 
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I mean we as Christians debate tooth and nail as to what it takes...baptism, no baptism , pre destination, free will...etc
Throw in faith/works (repentance) and have-a-born-again-experience/believe-the-right-doctrine into the mill too.

I figured out awhile back that it's not black-and-white and it ain't gonna be black-and-white no matter how much I want it to be and how much others try to make it that way.

If I can't have certainty, I'll just have to trust Jesus, won't I?
 
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I've considered myself a lifelong Christian, I've also posed another question on here about "hope" more then "certainty"...has anyone else ever questioned whether it is as black and white to get into paradise as we hear? I mean we as Christians debate tooth and nail as to what it takes...baptism, no baptism , pre destination, free will...etc

Interestingly enough Ive had my own questions as someone very introspective, very analytical etc....however it is a bit challenging. As I said earlier , I have considered myself a Christian since I can remember. During the summer of 95 I had what I thought was a "being saved" moment...someone prayed for me, and I did think I "felt" something and I certainly felt a change...only for years later to hear "feelings don't matter!" from many circles of Christianity. So I have to ask was all that just emotions and not true?

Emotions/feelings are probably the very worst basis upon which to try to determine if, in fact, you're saved. As has been observed,

"Feeling come and feelings go,
And feelings are deceiving..."

The Bible offers us a different, better, more sure basis for thinking you're truly saved: The inner witness of the Holy Spirit.

Romans 8:16
16 The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God,


This "testimony" of the Spirit isn't a feeling, it's his life and work in evidence in your life. He bears witness, or testifies, that you're actually born-again by doing in, and to, you what the Bible says he will do.

The Holy Spirit will:

- convict you (Jn. 16:8; Rev. 2-3).
- teach you (Jn. 14:26; 16:13; 1 Co. 2:10-16).
- strengthen you (Ro. 8:13; Eph. 3:16; Phil. 2:13; 4:13).
- transform you (2 Co. 3:3, 18; Ga. 5:22-23)
- glorify Christ in you (Jn. 6:14).
- give you a holy, self-sacrificing love for the brethren (1 Jn. 3:14).

These are only some of the things that the Holy Spirit is promised to do in those who have been made his "temple" (1 Co. 3:16; 6:19-20; Ti. 3:5-7; 1 Jn. 4:13) and who remain under his control throughout each day (Ja. 4:6-10; 1 Pe. 5:6; Ro. 6:13-22; 12:1).

It's in light of these things that Paul was able to say to his fellow Christians not only that they could test themselves to see if they were in the faith or not, but that they could do the same with him, also.

2 Corinthians 13:5-6
5 Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you—unless indeed you fail the test?
6 But I trust that you will realize that we ourselves do not fail the test.


What does testing yourself against the above reveal about your condition spiritually?