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When one is born again, does that one receive a new mind and will?
The new mind is a process. It's one that needs development, and the only way to develop it is as the Apostle counsel us inWhen one is born again, does that one receive a new mind and will?
No, I believe that's Paul in his frustrated state of the flesh trying to serve God before being born again.So when Apostle Paul says “ that which I would do I cannot, and that which I would not do that I find myself doing, oh wretched man that I am who shall deliver me from the body of this death” this is an example of the war between the two souls?
So when Apostle Paul says “ that which I would do I cannot, and that which I would not do that I find myself doing, oh wretched man that I am who shall deliver me from the body of this death” this is an example of the war between the two souls?
Okay, let me use this example,No, I believe that's Paul in his frustrated state of the flesh trying to serve God before being born again.
That controversy goes back at least 4 centuries, with Jacob Arminius arguing that Paul is describing a man before being spiritually regenerated, while the followers of John Calvin argued that he is describing a man after he has been regenerated and become aware of his condition.No, I believe that's Paul in his frustrated state of the flesh trying to serve God before being born again.
Okay, let me use this example,
When the Apostle John writes, he that sins is of the devil and he that sins not is of God.
Could that be applied to the two minds at war in our members?
After much contemplation of the passage I'm with Arminius on this one. I have the T-shirt for that one. Been there done that. Getting born again was the answer to it. Chapter 8 is the answer to chapter 7.That controversy goes back at least 4 centuries, with Jacob Arminius arguing that Paul is describing a man before being spiritually regenerated, while the followers of John Calvin argued that he is describing a man after he has been regenerated and become aware of his condition.
There's actually a third interpretive option, but I don't want to take Avagabond's thread down that rathole. There are plenty of other threads to discuss that topic. There's something about the question of whether the fault lies in our stars or in ourselves, in our nature or in our nurture, that obsesses mankind.After much contemplation of the passage I'm with Arminius on this one. I have the T-shirt for that one. Been there done that. Getting born again was the answer to it. Chapter 8 is the answer to chapter 7.
When one is born again, does that one receive a new mind and will?
Okay, let me use this example,
When the Apostle John writes, he that sins is of the devil and he that sins not is of God.
Could that be applied to the two minds at war in our members?
You mean as to what caused the bondage in Romans 7 that we are in that requires the rescue described in Romans 8?There's actually a third interpretive option, but I don't want to take Avagabond's thread down that rathole. There are plenty of other threads to discuss that topic. There's something about the question of whether the fault lies in our stars or in ourselves, in our nature or in our nurture, that obsesses mankind.