I never said they were scripture so your argument is mute already I said history proves out this was taught by ancient Hebrews and sense the dead sea Scrolls are highly respected as proof the bible has not changed much at all in 2000 years and the Essenes treasured and read the books we do (and its said in history Paul himself studied with them for 3 years)... The fact these fragment and books like the Book of Enoch were commonly read and accepted by those who were then the chosen people of God before there were any Christians or a churchs to change what is taught. And sense these same fragments are also written in scripture if one knows where/how to look ...and checks out the hebrew these fragments are only a second wittnes to the truth of scripture ...
No. The Book of Enoch was never originally a part of the Bible. It was adapted but then dropped.If you consider that there are Jewish fables, and the strict copying rules that the Essenes would go by, tell me how they did such a sloppy job. Answer, they didn't. Therefore the fragments were fragments because they were not scripture as other scrolls found there proved it was not. Did you take that into consideration?
But then that would require some real study on ones part instead of justy blindly following men as you do ...Tell me Pariah sense you think you know so much got it all figured out and we are to study the word according to Pariah
Real study on what part? The Bible or other sources? I am sure you did an intense study on the subject, Christina, but as dedicated as you are, how is it that the disciples that loved His words and kept them, would be so lacking? You are not alone that have studied as deeply and with fervor in these fields, but take a step back and see how you are trying to prove that God did not preserve His words for the church to have. I mean, the ramification of what you are trying to prove is..and you are doing it by outside sources... we cannot tell now if we really have the Word of God or not.I know better than that and you know better than that, but you "lost" perpective in your Lara Croft's/ Nancy Drew's adventure.
Your very good a telling us how wrong we are so lets here what you got on the subject ... So please tell me where you think the tares came from ? They were planted with Good seed (Adam) which was planted in Eden.So why dont you explain where these tares came from to us Who planted these tares ... Who was this wicked one ... Mat 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. Mat 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. Mat 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? Mat 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. Mat 13:36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. Mat 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked [one];
A little leaven leavens into a whole lump. The devil by lies as those that do not righteousness are of the devil as those that do righteousness are of God.1 John 3: 7Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. 11For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. This is what Jesus was referring to those He had acknowledged as Abraham's seed in John 8:37, but becuase they were seeking to kill Him, they were of the devil.1 John 2: 24Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. 25And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life. 26These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 27But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 28And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. 29If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.So the elect will see those depart from the faith and thus the tares from the wheat is being shown.1 John 2: 15Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. 18Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 19They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 20But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.But yet those "wicked and unreasonable men not of faith" were still called brothers even though they have fallen from the faith.2 Thessalonians 3:1Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you: 2And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith. 3But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil. 4And we have confidence in the Lord touching you, that ye both do and will do the things which we command you. 5And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ. 6Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us. 7For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;...14And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. 15Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.One can hope that God will deliver the brother from the snare of the devil before judgment falls on the House of God, but if not, Jesus will finish His work even in those left behind as they will be vessels unto dishonour, but His work in them will be in such a way that they will not love their lives even unto death.1 Timothy 4: 1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;Job 13:15Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him: but I will maintain mine own ways before him. 16He also shall be my salvation: for an hypocrite shall not come before him.Revelation 12: 10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.By His grace, I love you in Christ, Christina. I leave this on God to cause the increase. I am nothing.1 Corinthians 3:5Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.2 Corinthians 3:1Do we begin again to commend ourselves? or need we, as some others, epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you? 2Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men: 3Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. 4And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward: 5Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; 6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.What epistle of Christ is written on your heart and then compare... what need of these fables? Is this not what is happening, Chrsitina?2 Timothy 2:
23But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes. 24And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.I fail to see how these fables will deliver those taken captive by the snare of the devil. The fables do not serve Our Lord Jesus Christ. And since they definitely fall under the category of verse 23 above, I'll leave that for you to take to the Lord Jesus in prayer about, because I do wonder if the fables can be a snare as well.Galatians 5: 14For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.15But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. 16This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.Please be an ambassader of Christ in redeeming the times, not of fables that edify not. You already know some of your posters are ensnared by tongues they had gained by seeking another spirit to receive which is not the Gospel of Our Lord Jesus Christ for there is only one baptism. Ephesians 4:4-6 & 1 Corinthians 12:13 & Ephesians 1:12-15I cannot say that I will return for I know not what tomorrow will bring. I leave you in God's hands, sister. Amen.