Can a Believer Loose Their Salvation?

[Behold]

This is not true. They believe all churches have a means of salvation. The Catholic Church just has the direct root, or most means or something like that (don’t quote me, look it up)

What does the Pope say??

John Paul II says that “it was on Calvary that Mary’s suffering, beside the suffering of Jesus, reached an intensity which can hardly be imagined from a human point of view, but which was mysterious and supernaturally fruitful for the redemption of the world”

.""" Pope Francis recognizes Mary’s “yes” as an expression of her active role in salvation history—a role that we can call coredemptive.""

""""She, the mother of hope, sustains us in times of darkness, difficulty, discouragement, of seeming defeat or true human defeat.”""

""""He has also referred to Mary as “auxiliatrix” and as the “Queen of the Saints and the Gate of Heaven.”""

"""" In her, God was united to us, and if we want to unite ourselves to him, we must take the same path: through = Mary, woman and mother.”""""

 

[Eternally Grateful]

There is ONE church, the Lord's church of the bible, and that ain't the catholic church: "all churches" implies that the myriad of thousands of denominations are equally viewed as acceptable to God which is totally illogical and makes no sense because they all teach and believe something different.

who said anything about the catholic church made sense?

Many denominations and their teachings and traditions make no sense

 

[Davy]

You didn't address what I said or the parable in Luke and it's meaning. You also assumed things which I did not say or infer. And does "spirits in prison" mean they were in paradise? And yes, at death we depart the body which returns to the earth, the spirit returns to God, and the soul lives on, in hell or paradise with the Lord if you're a Christian.

And the scripture being discussed in Luke 16 IS a parable and Luke 16 is continuation of Luke 15. And who was his audience? Not just his disciples, but "publicans and sinners", and he only spoke in parables to those that followed after him, the crowds and others as mentioned. So yes because of his audience, consisting of not just his disciples, he spoke only in parables as noted elsewhere in scripture (Matthew 13:10).

I addressed the 'meat' of what Jesus was teaching. The word "torments" of Luke 16:23 the "rich man" complained of is a Greek word for a 'touchstone'. A touchstone is a stone that when gold ore is struck on it, the touchstone reveals how much gold is in the ore. It's a tool that was used for measuring. The "rich man" didn't 'measure up'.

And Lazarus is the same name as Eleazar (Aaron's son) of the Old Testament, which meaning is 'God is helper, or protector.' It suggests Lazarus, just by his name, may represent a poor preacher.

And of course the idea with Jesus comparing one who seeks to gain the world vs. one who seeks to follow God's commandments serving God is naturally attached to the Message. Lazarus was a poor beggar because he was not following the world, that's easy to see.