Am still waiting for you to answer about the general state of most followers of God/Christ in the bible.
Ok, lets start with Jesus, David, Abraham, and Soloman.
One created it all, and owns it all, and he gave it to the rest.
David, Abraham, and Soloman, had so much "riches" that its comparable to Bill Gates,.....> and GOD caused it, and he is not changed.
Now regarding New Testament "saints"........well, in the beginning, you had the apostles and they were given a special mission.
Start the church.
Their mission was to die doing this, and in this, they lit the early church aflame.
Now, ....this is 2012, and God has not changed, and we as believers are to do the works of Christ using the provision that God provides.
And his provision includes access to all he has, all he is, and all that he can do...
He has given each of us a ministry, whether it be in a pulpit or whether it be as a light on the job, in the school, or on the street.....and whatever it takes
to expand God's net...... God will provide to you according to your faith that accesses his "riches in Glory".
Rach, when you read your bible, you have to see it in context, regarding "outreach" '2012.
For example, in Paul's day there was no internet, no cell phones, no TV Stations, no Delta Jets , no Radio or TV ministry...there were just long dusty walks to the next town.
So, understand we are in a different age and so, the access methods have changed, and because of this, our need for finances is a whole lot different then it was in Paul's day.
Hopefully you can understand this..??
But if you cant, you cant.
Think about it anyway.
Honestly...I'm interested in how you see that, and how on earth you compromise it with your beliefs on prosperity/health.
Actually, to literally "compromise" Jesus, regarding "health and money"..... is to deny his provision by trying to use the bible as some type of poverty manifesto that accuses God of creating a Christian's life to be "sickness and poverty"= to prove their spirituality.
Listen fella, God does not need you sick and broke, he needs you healthy and financially sound so that your outreach for him is not small and ineffective.
And if you think you can do more for God when you are sick and broke then you can do for him healthy and financially sound,... then you are smoking theological crack and you need to take some time off in a spiritual rehab asap.
So, dont come to my thread talking to me about........"well, i can do just as much for God when i dont have a dime, then i can do for him if i have plenty of money."
See, that type comment is fake spirituality braying loud and long.........that is a spiritual pretender with a martyr's complex trying to prove he is the second coming of Paul.
Forget all that, and get real.
You see...even if there are those who could claim wealth/health in scripture, they are: 1-far from the majority, and 2-pretty much all of them acknowledge that those things are fleeting and only in God is true riches found.
The bible tells you that that "it is the Lord who gives you power to get wealth"........so, "get wealth", is not related to Spiritual wealth.......as you dont "get" spiritual wealth, you are given that......such as Salvation which is wealth that is given.........for free.
All spiritual gifts , all 9, are given for free.
But when your bible is talking about the "power to GET",.... that is only describing "finances" that you "develop".
Listen fella., do not make the mistake of trying to spiritulize all the promises in the bible.
Once you do that, you'll never get past the idea that money is evil.
Money is not evil...........its only a TOOL, like a chisel or a saw.
So I have to believe that unless the bible directs me differently, and it doesn't, then the belief that we must be 'wealthy and healthy' is just fantasy on your behalf.
Well here you lied.
You sit there, decided to lie, and typed a big fat whopping lie.
Shame on you...
Now, Go back to any of my previous posts on this Thread, or my original Thread and find me a sentence that states that i said "All christians MUST be wealthy".
Ive not ever said this, implied this, or alluded to it..
The only place you will find on this Thread the words, ..."Christians must be wealthy", came from your lying little mind using your lying little fingers to type your big fat lie.
And Rach, i dont appreciate a liar, and i really dont appreciate one who claims to be a Christian and then shows up on my Thread and lies..
From now on, if you are going to post your opinions on my Threads, i would appreciate it if you dont lie, and i would appreciate it if you post my QUOTES if you are going to hang around here and rant.
Now having said all that, and i mean it...........i'll say this...
Isnt this Thread interesting?
I asked a simple question, and as far as i can tell, not one Christian has answered it..
The Question is........."Can God trust you with his money".
Has any responder answered that question yet?
Is there a Christian who has read this Thread, who has said........"yes, i can be trusted with God's money".????????????
So, i think what we are learning is that a whole lot of Christians who cant answer that question are devoutly opposed to the idea of any other Christian
having a lot of money.
Apparently those in the majority here who cant be trusted with money, dont want anyone else to have any.
Apparently those in the majority here who cant be trusted with money, have decided that no one else can.
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