Can God trust you with his money?

[BeforeThereWas]

God doesn't have any money so the point is moot.

Neither do I because I've given it all up for Christ so the point is doubly moot.

Pretty much takes care of that hehe :)

(Mat 19:21)
Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

How does one live without money apart from sponging off others?

SW

A "few things" K ...

First, don't even suggest I'm a liar. That is the quick way to hell for you.

That's sounds like you consider yourself seated on the Judgement Throne, in the place of Christ. That WOULD make you a liar. Perhaps you could clarify your words?

SW

 

[Kidron]

Do you know what Spirit you are of?

The born again type.

Is everyone faithless?

Everyone believes something..
the issue is "what".
So there is the issue...

If you work for God, Won't He take care of you?

Depends on your doctrine and your faith.
God does not bless heresy or unbelief no matter how much a faithless heretic "works".


K

A "few things" K ...

First, don't even suggest I'm a liar. That is the quick way to hell for you.

I'll call you a liar if you get on my Thread, try to sound "spiritual" and lie.
Count on it..
So, what about that internet payment?
Did you pay it this month??? ;)

Secondly, no I don't need money.

Then someone is taking care of you.
Right?



Thirdly, no, money has nothing to do with "riches in glory", whoever told you that is of the devil. You telling others makes you, well...

Do you have a Bible?
Ever read it?
/Read Philippians Chapter 4:10,15.
The context is MONEY.
Then read verse 19, as the context is related specifically to verses 10&15.
Enjoy your bible.\\
Its full of light that you have yet to discover.

Fourthly, I take care of my 96 year old grandparents who have internet provided for me. Thank Jesus.

So they pay the internet bill.
Ok, thanx for the clarification.
I knew someone was paying it.


Fifthly, the laptob I use was a gift from a sister in Christ for the ministry. Thank Jesus.
Sixth, I take care of my family and have food and shelter and gas and expenses taken care of in return. Thank Jesus.


Ok, so thats your job, and your payment is food, shelter, internet, etc.
Sounds good.

Because I've given up all and have taken up my cross and follow Jesus to crucifixion.

I would not worry about the crucifixion.
He's taken care of that.

I live in an RV next to my grandparents who stay in a relative's guest house so no, I do not have an address except for a P.O. Box.


OK.
145 Merlin, OR 97532. You are welcome to donate as you say but I know you have no intention to do so. Your manner of speech and your teaching clearly display the mark of the beast imprinted firmly in your forehead concerning buying and selling and it makes you very ugly. Your spirit as reflected in your post "against" me is one of contention and very mean and ungodly, I welcome nothing from you.

Stop sounding like a nut.
Ok?

Repent and be baptized for the remission of sins and go and sin no more.

Im not a Catholic or a heretic, so, i wont be getting baptised to be saved, as baptism cant save a housefly.

Otherwise, burn with your money.


Ah, I can feel the love of Christ in your speech., but im not certain you sound like a "christian"..
I forgive you ....
And no, i cant "burn" , as im born again, and those of us who are, (by faith), are eternally secure.


K

The thing i find strange in regard to money is the contrast between the way people who have it are judged and the way those living sinful debauched lifestyles are judged...the latter are almost always portrayed as helpless vicitims while the former are almost always portrayed as evil and greedy no matter how honestly they may have earned their money...one is a victim the other is a perpetrator...one we are told is not to be judged while the other is judged in the harshest of terms regardless of any evidence to support such judgement....make sense ? of course it does when you consider that hardly anyone is envious of the down and out while many are extremely envious of the wealthy...we must also keep in mind that both "rich" and "poor" are relative terms and that we may be rich to somebody while being poor to somebody else.

Where does the bible say that sin is the exclusive burden of the rich or poor ?
The Bible does say that the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil...the love of money drives the drug dealer,prostitute,the petty theif,organized crime,pornography ect etc etc but these people are treated by the church most often as helpless victims of circumstance,bad homes,ect etc which all may be true but they are no less sinners and no less accountable to God than the corrupt businessman or wall street tycoon.

The Bible says it's easier for a Camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a "rich" man to enter the kingdom of God...are the rich the only ones that lie,steal,fornicate,gossip,commit adultery ? does the Bible not say that those who commit these things will not enter the kingdom of God...does a Camel not have the same chance of getting through that needle as those who commit such getting into heaven.....the issue is sin,not money or lack of money....it is sin!!!

The fact is....there are a lot of unsaved "water baptised" people masquerading as "Christians".
And, there are a lot of Christians who are very unfamiliar with the New Testament, the new Covenant, Romans Chapter 4....,the blessings of Abraham, and "justification by Faith alone".
90% of the confusion in the body of Christ, is found right there.


K

You seem pretty proud of yourself, Kidron.

Hardly.
Im just a simple saved by Grace born again by the Spirit of God through faith Son..
I did nothing to earn it, and i can do nothing to keep this "free gift of righteousness".



Do you realize that the first will be last and the last will be first?


Do you realize that Mary cant save a donut?
Do you realize that a Priest cant change a cookie and some grape juice into the "literal" body and blood of Christ?
Do you realize that the Catholic bible took out one of the 10 commandments?
Do you realize that Peter is not the "1st Pope".?
Do u realize that water baptism does not save and cannot save anyone?
Do you know that "christening a baby", is as useless as blowing air into a paper bag?
Do you realize that the "one true church" is not the Roman Catholic Church?
Do you realize that when you get to the judgement seat of Christ, Mary is not going to be there?
Do you realize that when you get to the judgement seat of Christ, Jesus is going to ask you exactly how many
souls you led to him?


K

The problem I have with some rich people is

1. The creation of legislation that promotes hoarding of money
2. A lack of empathy for the poor.



You've described people in general.
rich or poor.


K

, all I want to say is that your post is a great argument for not banning homosexual marriage in this country

Now who would have guessed that you,..Aspen, would support homosexual marriage.
This is as odd as a fly landing on sugar....isnt it?
Flame on, buddy..........
over and out.


K

How does one live without money apart from sponging off others?

SW



That's sounds like you consider yourself seated on the Judgement Throne, in the place of Christ. That WOULD make you a liar. Perhaps you could clarify your words?

SW

Whitestone was a bit angry.
Im certain they only want me to burn in hell for a short time... ;)

K

 

[aspen]

how sad,,,,,

 

[us2are1]

The born again type.
Everyone believes something..
the issue is "what".
So there is the issue...
Depends on your doctrine and your faith.
God does not bless heresy or unbelief no matter how much a faithless heretic "works".

K

Did you read the scripture that I quoted about the wisdom of man?
Your answers are not that cleaver and reek of a foundation of flesh.
If you are working for God then His power will bare witness of you.
You will not need anything especially from the beast (your nation).
Repent and ask God for His Spirit in faith if you want to understand what I just wrote.

 

[Kidron]

Did you read the scripture that I quoted about the wisdom of man?

read them.

Your answers are not that cleaver and reek of a foundation of flesh.

;)at least i can spell "clever".
and the "foundation of flesh" you are leaning on, is what you are sitting on, big boy.

If you are working for God then His power will bare witness of you.

thanx for stating the obvious.

You will not need anything especially from the beast (your nation).

do you remember exaclty when you became a conspiracy theorist?


Repent and ask God for His Spirit in faith if you want to understand what I just wrote.


I'll tell you what, i'll repent for spending any time here answering a nut.
And honestly, your statement suggests you need some time with a therapist.
(or perhaps more time).




K

 

[soupy]

Wow, I understand discussing differences, but why do brothers and sisters in Christ personally attack each other?

Can we speak truth with love...

discussing the subject matter, not name calling.

Kidron, I agree with some of your points, but it gets lost in your anger.

 

[Kidron]

Kidron, I agree with some of your points, but it gets lost in your anger.

Ok, thx for agreeing., and i think what you mean to say is that, following my Thread, comes the assaults and thus my responses.
So, you are upset by the assaults or my responses?
Dont worry about is, as on any 'christian" forum, you will find a whole lot of people who think they have a clue about the bible who argue
endlessly with those of us who do.

Now, Soupy, how about the Thread's topic, which.................= is a question.
Can God trust you with his money?



be blessed,



K

 

[Foreigner]

Dont worry about is, as on any 'christian" forum, you will find a whole lot of people who think they have a clue about the bible who argue
endlessly with those of us who do.

-- LOL Ladies and gentlemen, I give you kidron. Legend in his own mind.

 

[us2are1]

read them.

;)at least i can spell "clever".
and the "foundation of flesh" you are leaning on, is what you are sitting on, big boy.

thanx for stating the obvious.

do you remember exaclty when you became a conspiracy theorist?

I'll tell you what, i'll repent for spending any time here answering a nut.
And honestly, your statement suggests you need some time with a therapist.
(or perhaps more time).

That's what I thought. No desire at all to know Christ.

 

[Kidron]

-- LOL Ladies and gentlemen, I give you kidron. Legend in his own mind.

"eternally secure" legend. ;)

That's what I thought. No desire at all to know Christ.

As far as i can tell, ive known him longer then you have been alive.



K

 

[us2are1]

"eternally secure" legend. ;)




As far as i can tell, ive known him longer then you have been alive.



K

As far as you can tell? That explains it. Jim Jones and David Koresh claimed to know him to.




.

 

[Foreigner]

As far as you can tell? That explains it. Jim Jones and David Koresh claimed to know him to.

-- You are spot on.
Mr. Kidron's arrogance on where he stands with God compared to others could end up with him hearing, "I never knew you."