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I have searched through the entire Bible, looking for any passages which would support "universalism". I was unable to any, so I assume you are sharing your private opinion which is based on nothing other than your own personal feelings.

The problem with private opinions, is there are literally billions of opposing views and opinions in that sea of confusion. I would much rather embrace the Truth, because He will never lead me in to confusion or false doctrine. The Lord Jesus Christ said "I am the Truth", and I believe Him and I'm exceeding glad to believe every Word that proceeds from His mouth.

I think you misunderstood. I've seen this happen before. If someone says, Christ died for all- they are called a UNIVERSALIST? Baloney. Did you not read what @Eternally Grateful said immediately below that? I will quote-

"He who believes is not condemned, he who does not believe is condemned already"
 

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You do know that was a sarcastic remark, because you didn't provide ONE verse for what you stated above.
exactly as i thought my friend . Reread it again . The problem within this generation is
Unless one actually quoates the chapter and verse , MOST have no idea scriptures are actually being said .
Its proof that many actually aint been a reading they bibles much at all .
You go to and behold again what i wrote and you see if you are sure there IS No scripture tucked away within it .
OH its there my friend . Its there .
 

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exactly as i thought my friend . Reread it again . The problem within this generation is
Unless one actually quoates the chapter and verse , MOST have no idea scriptures are actually being said .
Its proof that many actually aint been a reading they bibles much at all .
You go to and behold again what i wrote and you see if you are sure there IS No scripture tucked away within it .
OH its there my friend . Its there .
Brother @amigo de christo is spotted. Praise the Lord.
 
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amigo de christo

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I think you misunderstood. I've seen this happen before. If someone says, Christ died for all- they are called a UNIVERSALIST? Baloney. Did you not read what @Eternally Grateful said immediately below that? I will quote-

"He who believes is not condemned, he who does not believe is condemned already"
That right there IS the condemnation i spoke of too our berean soilder
As with other scrips i tucked within that message . Only HE saw NO scrips within .
I tell us all that many do not know their bibles . One has to quoate verse and chapter for them to even
realize that perhaps scripture is even being said .
I am afraid that what we have here is a generation that might cliam to be berean
and yet their version of berean is how the bible is seen and taught through their own leaders mindsets .
And what little bible people know is and has been learned by the precepts of men .
Many DO NOT know scrips . they know a few certain ones , and even those are often twisted
to fit a pre concieved teaching of men . Its not looking good in this generation .
BUT i will continue by grace to do all to try and get people back into just reading the bible for themselves .
If they did they could know whether or not i was speaking of my own self or actually bringing the scrips of truth .
But continue to sit under men , it wont be working out too good for the many who did and who do so .
I really suggest that with joy we all again open our bibles and enjoy us some feasting time for our selves .
Cause we gots far too many wolves in wool who have and who are leading this people
RIGHT into the snare .
 
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That right there IS the condemnation i spoke of too our berean soilder
As with other scrips i tucked within that message . Only HE saw NO scrips within .
I tell us all that many do not know their bibles . One has to quoate verse and chapter for them to even
realize that perhaps scripture is even being said .
I am afraid that what we have here is a generation that might cliam to be berean
and yet their version of berean is how the bible is seen and taught through their own leaders mindsets .
And what little bible people know is and has been learned by the precepts of men .
Many DO NOT know scrips . they know a few certain ones , and even those are often twisted
to fit a pre concieved teaching of men . Its not looking good in this generation .
BUT i will continue by grace to do all to try and get people back into just reading the bible for themselves .
If they did they could know whether or not i was speaking of my own self or actually bringing the scrips of truth .
But continue to sit under men , it wont be working out too good for the many who did and who do so .
I really suggest that with joy we all again open our bibles and enjoy us some feasting time for our selves .
Cause we gots far too many wolves in wool who have and who are leading this people
RIGHT into the snare .
@amigo de christo
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Marvelloustime

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IN fact you will hear from the mouth of JESUS himself and more than once
QUITE the opposite of univeralism as HE HOLLERS WOE UNTO THEE , WOE UNTO THEE it will BE WORSE FOR YOU than ever
it was for sodom .
YOU will hear warnings as well from the apostels as they SHOOK the dust off against those who rejected
as a testimony against them . saying things LIKE YOUR BLOOD be upon your own head
AND ye count yourselves unworthy of , EVERLASTING LIFE .
LOOK at the dire warnings paul gave to even the hebrews and others .
LOOK at the dire warnings john gave
jude did
and others did . YOU WONT SEE UNIVERSALISM preached by those men . YOU WILLL SEE ONLY ONE NAME
they preached with the UPMOSET DIRE REMINDER YE NEEDS TO BELIEVE ON HIM .
Then read some revelation
ITs all one and the same . ME is very happy to see that by grace you see this too my friend . WE POINT ONLY TO JESUS THE CHRIST
and WE shall give NO FALSE HOPE unto this world . JESUS IS THE ONLY NAME whereby one may be SAVED
and thus THAT IS WHO WE SHALL preach . no false fables here my friend , no false love , no false hope .
ONLY THE TRUE LOVE OF GOD that desires none to perish , THUS ITS JESUS this sheep points too
and not rather to a fairy tale universalism incliusivism LIE . cause that lie AINT saving squat .
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Always obey to the God.
THis is my well beloved SON in whom i am well pleased . HEAR YE HIM .
It seems in this day and age many had rather hear and obey men and preach a false big ol fat broad road love
rather than to HEED the WORDS of CHRIST and to teach them to OBSERVE , aka TO DO , all things HE said .
I think many dont realize something .
But lets allow john to say it .
HE who recieves NOT the testimony that GOD gave of the SON ,
HIMS CALLING GOD A LIAR .
Sure didnt say He is serving the same GOD WE DO . HE said calling GOD A LIAR .
so lets keep that in mind when these sold out wicked men of belial
try and come along and tell us all religoins be serving the same GOD in different ways . ITS ALL A LIE and a sham .
IN fact
allow me to use some more words from john .
WHO IS A LIAR
he who DENIES that JESUS is the CHRIST , he is anti christ . OOPSY that just shot a big ol hole
in the all inclusive interfaith fake love pile of dung . THEM other religoins DENY JESUS IS THE CHRIST
so how the heck are they serving the same GOD we are . DENYING JESUS IS THE CHRIST , COMETH OF ANTI CHRIST . NOT GOD .
Oh and another reminder
HE who hears US is of GOD
but he who hears not us IS NOT OF GOD . OOPSY those who reject CHRIST JESUS , are not OF GOD at all .
But popes and the protestant realm sure are trying to convince us they are and that we one big lovey do happy family of GOD .
What a crock of dung . its of anti christ .
 
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THis is my well beloved SON in whom i am well pleased . HEAR YE HIM .
It seems in this day and age many had rather hear and obey men and preach a false big ol fat broad road love
rather than to HEED the WORDS of CHRIST and to teach them to OBSERVE , aka TO DO , all things HE said .
I think many dont realize something .
But lets allow john to say it .
HE who recieves NOT the testimony that GOD gave of the SON ,
HIMS CALLING GOD A LIAR .
Sure didnt say He is serving the same GOD WE DO . HE said calling GOD A LIAR .
so lets keep that in mind when these sold out wicked men of belial
try and come along and tell us all religoins be serving the same GOD in different ways . ITS ALL A LIE and a sham .
IN fact
allow me to use some more words from john .
WHO IS A LIAR
he who DENIES that JESUS is the CHRIST , he is anti christ . OOPSY that just shot a big ol hole
in the all inclusive interfaith fake love pile of dung . THEM other religoins DENY JESUS IS THE CHRIST
so how the heck are they serving the same GOD we are . DENYING JESUS IS THE CHRIST , COMETH OF ANTI CHRIST . NOT GOD .
Oh and another reminder
HE who hears US is of GOD
but he who hears not us IS NOT OF GOD . OOPSY those who reject CHRIST JESUS , are not OF GOD at all .
But popes and the protestant realm sure are trying to convince us they are and that we one big lovey do happy family of GOD .
What a crock of dung . its of anti christ .
@amigo de christo
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amigo de christo

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TO the trenches its all out war for the souls of men . And the father of lies is taking no time off
decieving even most of christendom with a false love that promotes a lie and saves none .
But he has always desired the death of man , so no suprises there at all .
 
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Moses could not enter the promised land not because he had done anything wrong, but because God did not need another king to lead his people. God needed to lead them himself.

But then there was a king, because Jesus Christ was coming, because Jesus Christ is the king.
TO the trenches my friend who dwells in china . These hours be the last days and a strong delusoin
has come to unite the decieved as one , under what all religons and the decieved will see as love and believe is of GOD .
But it aint . battle boots on my friend . We must point to CHRIST and all sound lovely bibilical doctrine .
 
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exactly as i thought my friend . Reread it again . The problem within this generation is
Unless one actually quoates the chapter and verse , MOST have no idea scriptures are actually being said .
Its proof that many actually aint been a reading they bibles much at all .
You go to and behold again what i wrote and you see if you are sure there IS No scripture tucked away within it .
OH its there my friend . Its there .
I am not in the business of guessing, you make statements and offer no scriptural proofs, and as a result, I will assume this is just your personal views not based on God's Word. Now, even if you cited scripture, that doesn't mean I would agree, but at least I would understand where you got your reasoning from.
 

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On the one hand you admit that salvation is of the Lord, and that He choses those He purposed to save. Then later you suggest that salvation is in the hands of the individual. We can't have it both ways, salvation is either all of the Lord, or al by mans choice.
God's plan of salvation was conceived in His mind with no human involvement.

God's plan of sanctification was conceived in His mind with no human involvement.

God's eternal purpose was conceived in His mind with no human involvement.

From eternity to eternity God is exercising His sovereignty to bring about His eternal purpose and script.

All of His creations are designed, created and used by Him for His pleasure.
 

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I am not in the business of guessing, you make statements and offer no scriptural proofs, and as a result, I will assume this is just your personal views not based on God's Word. Now, even if you cited scripture, that doesn't mean I would agree, but at least I would understand where you got your reasoning from.
Sometimes these biblical discussions make me so much more grateful for the revelation God our Creator gave me of His Spirit. That this is an ongoing revelation within a relationship with a Person, His resident Spirit.

He has eclipsed my former love which I focused on and built a dependeny on. This was the bible.

This Person has become my faithful Companion and Friend.

Debating scripture, the contents of the bibles, the written words of God have become of less and less an interest as our relationship grows.

We have so many other things of daily life to chat back and forth about. Our thoughts have become more and more synchronised. It's great to experience and acknowledge how we are becoming alike.

It would be refreshing to hear more of people's relationship with God's resident Holy Spirit than just one's familiarity with the bible.
 

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Yes, 144000 of the tribes of Israel. I love God's people, the descendants of Jacob. I love their divine Father more.
Jesus cut the Israelite religion off of being Gods chosen( Matt 23:38-39) The reference is to spiritual Israel in Revelation. Jesus began a new religion= Christian.