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  1. fivesense

    fivesense New Member

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    Cool beans
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  2. Faithful

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    I have something I want to share with you...
    The Lord has brought me back here three times. I wasn't sure why till I read your post just now.

    "deny God's Word "

    "but I am looking to foster a Biblically-sound community."

    Christ taught that 22.Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

    23.But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

    24.God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

    25.The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.

    26.Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.


    The Prophet said...

    Zechariah 4:6 (King James Version)

    6Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying," Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts."


    Paul taught... "6.Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. "


    The power of our God in the believer is not in the written word any longer. It is in the sword of the Spirit. The Words which the Spirit gives the believer and these should always be in line with the teachings of Christ as conveyed through the Prophets.

    What the Prophet Moses taught was that Christ was the Prophet to be listened to and the one who would correct all beliefs and show us the true beliefs.
    Deuteronomy 18: 15-20

    Christ is the person that taught us to love God and to love others. That there is only way and that is him.
    That he was the way, the TRUTH and the LIFE. No one can come to God but by him.
    We are people of truth who live in the power of truth which is imparted in your life by the presence of the truth of Christ and the Holy Spirit.

    John 16:13 (King James Version)

    13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


    1 John 2:27 (King James Version)

    27.But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


    If everyone who comes here are taught by the Spirit then there is no reason for them to learn.
    Those who are believers only by the letter (what the bible says) will need to learn correction about doctrines.
    But each is a work which is being performed by our Father and we should be gentle and accepting of them till God has brought his purpose for their lives to fruition.

    If your forum is to serve the Lords work. Then you must be aware of all that he is doing in yourself, your forum and through others.

    Love: this is what the faith is all about... being gentle towards those who have yet to mature looking after these seedling till they are strong plant able to support others...

    Stop looking at what Satan is showing you and look to who your Father really is...

    He has a plan and that plan is that all mankind to be saved. You have blessed many without knowing it.

    Spirit and Truth, remember...

    Love in Christ, faithful. xx
     
  3. skyangel

    skyangel Realist

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    How can so many people in this world who all believe they are led by the Spirit of God all have different statements of faith which conflict with each other?
    Is that not in itself proof that none are led by the Spirit of God?
    Those who are led by the Spirit have the same mind as Christ and they all think the same as HE does. No conflict amongst them because they are One in Him. ( 1 Cor 1:10)


    If Jesus Himself had to write "a statement of faith". What do you think that statement would be?

    Should our statement of faith not be the same as His statement of faith if we are ONE with Him ?

    I am that I am.
     
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  4. Surf Rider

    Surf Rider New Member

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    Not to start a debate here, as this isn't necessarily the appropriate venue, yet I think it proper to give some input for the forum statement of faith sake: Peter wrote that the writings of Paul were scripture, it would seem, both in the Greek understanding of the extant passage and virtually any translation of it, when he wrote, "as also the other scriptures", speaking initially of Paul's letters, equating them with the scriptures, stating that they are in fact scriptures also. As to the rest of the statement of faith, there is much in it that is not given in the word of God as a statement of faith. For example, the disciples came up with a statement of faith, and it was far more simple and pure. We have this strong tendency to add much to the basics. This is not a scriptural tendency, it would seem. But I don't really care to debate doctrinal statements, typically, for it doesn't seem to do much of any good either for the purifying of the church or for glorifying God or for winning souls.

    I have yet to see a statement of faith that has any clarity or impact on the unsaved. The statements of faith are solely for the saved, partitioning the body of Christ, it would seem. Shall we cast lots for His garments also? I am well aware that this is not necessarily the goal of those who write the statements, but indeed, is it not actually the fulfilment of the the scriptures that rebuke the Christianes for positing divisions? And does not the word expressly injunct us against this? In fact, does it not soundly condemn it, speaking quite harshly in regard to the state of the mind and even possibly the soul of those who do this? I do indeed have grave concerns to see the proliferation of this habit evidenced in statements of faith. But I'm the odd duck out on this one, it would seem.

    No statement of faith would be just fine, I would think, but I fully realize that I am in the extreme minority in this.

    It is more the running of the board, ie, moderating of posts, that I think to be of import. The statement of faith really has no life in the threads. The moderation of posts does. The rubber meets the road in posts, for that is the sole action of the forum: posts. Thus, full energies are to be directly at the posts and their facilitations. Improvements in this area would be far more beneficial than any statement of faith, no matter how well stated, I would think.

    I was indeed concerned that this forum was going the way of others, becoming accrimonious. And yes, there is always a battle on that front, it would seem. If more could be done on that front, there are many who have been here who would appreciate it, going on and looking elsewhere for a forum that is well moderated as to the civility of the interactions of the posters. This is most often the point upon which posters leave any given forum. Indeed, is this not the actual atmosphere of any forum? Of course it is. The statement of faith has absolutely no bearing at all upon the atmosphere of any forum that I've seen. But I may very well be wrong. And yes, a good forum in which civility is the strong suit is very, very hard to find.

    May this fully become such a forum.
     
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    In 1 Timothy 5:18 Paul joins a New Testament scripture---Luke 10:7 to an Old Testament scripture---Deuteronomy 25:4, and calls them both scripture.

    And we can see in 2 Peter 3:15-16 Peter recognizes Paul's writing as scripture.

    Here are more scriptures for you to consider.

    2 Peter 1:20-21

    20Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. 21For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

    Romans 16:25-27 Now to him who is able to establish you by my gospel and the proclamation of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery hidden for long ages past, but now revealed and made known through the prophetic writings by the command of the eternal God, so that all nations might believe and obey him--to the only wise God be glory forever through Jesus Christ! Amen.




     
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    "We believe that God has chosen certain servants since before the katabole of the Earth to use as his tools (Deuteronomy 7:6; Psalm 105:6; Isaiah 44:1-2, Ephesians 1)."

    I just want to make sure I am understanding correctly. You do believe in the Sovereignty of God and Predestination, right?
     
  7. IanLC

    IanLC Active Member Encounter Team

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    I agree with the drafted statement of faith!
     
  8. martinlawrencescott

    martinlawrencescott Servant Prince

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    I haven't talked to or with you yet Hammer, but I appreciate this venue. It has been beneficial to my own walk with God during this growing period in understanding and in what I believe.
     
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    Pretty flawless.
    It is quite funny but the reason I joined this Christian board is because it did not have a dating forum. Dating I believe goes against what The Bible teaches.
     
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    Angelina Prayer Warrior Staff Member Admin

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    I so agree with you sashka! I was glad when I first joined that this forum did not have a dating service either...

    Be Blessed ~
     
  11. Stefcui

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    That is about the best statement of faith I have heard.

    I totally agree about keeping dating searches off Christian websites… this has kept me off them for this reason. They promote “casual relationships” in imitation of unbeliever’s customs. Very sad!

    God Bless
    Steve
     
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    I would simply mention one small point (I think most states plainly some basic truths), from the sermon on the mount, God's conditional forgiveness was in the setting of the covenant of law, that is, acceptance is conditional to our performance, while under the new covenant, acceptance is conditional to Christ's performance.

    The contrast is:

    Under the old covenant, IF you forgive, God will forgive you. If you don't, He won't.

    Under the new covenant, Because you have been forgiven, you are to forgive others. ( . . . forgiving others, as God in Christ has forgiven you.)

    Love in Christ,
    Mark
     
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    Angelina Prayer Warrior Staff Member Admin

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    Amen! bless you brother and welcome aboard! ^_^
     
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    Love and unity at what cost ? all cost ?
     
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    I don't believe that statements of faith were necessary prior to the resurrection of our Lord, but people, saved or unsaved, recognize that the resurrection is a display of power and that Jesus Christ demonstrated undeniably His mastery over the base elements of our world and even over life and death. With this recognition comes the realization that people may be manipulated or used for personal benefit if His power can be tied to your own person or personal goals. The apostles had not yet suffered martyrdom before men started to appear with additions to the gospel which gave such individuals some degree of power over those who accepted their additions as a requirement for either salvation or fellowship. Most of the big churches and ministries in our time still make special requirements for either participation in fellowship, or for the "holding" of a leadership position. I have heard otherwise sound expositors of God's word state very plainly that tithing is a prerequisite for either membership or leadership in their congregations, even though tithing is never stated as a requirement in the new testament except to those under law, as in Jesus' references made to scribes, priests, pharisees, and Jewish disciples. I have heard otherwise sound expositors of the scripture tell people that God wouldn't bless them unless they opened up their wallets or bank accounts, and that their poverty or financial struggle was due to their being cheap with God, or even "stealing from God" by not tithing as in Malachi's preaching to apostate Israel. Malachi tends to be brought out of the old testament whenever a church is having financial problems, but poor revenue in a church is usually more about poor or dishonest preaching and a lack of understanding of the principles of stewardship and the purpose of wealth. I know more than a few people of wealth that have no regard for
    Christ, or for God in general, or for good. They might be called blessed for their wealth, but the Lord has blessed me in ways that they can never know through their wealth. I use tithing as an example, because its a principle which is commonly abused by those who see it as a way to further their kingdom building efforts. The people that invoke old testament law and try to superimpose it over the grace of God are not above using the law to bind the conscience of those that Christ died to set free. This is a means to their power, not to the glorification of God. The law had a glory to it and a majesty expressed in wealth with the display of gold and other riches, but that glory was a fading glory almost two thousand years ago and can never compare to the glory of Christ, which still remains largely hidden even while on display in the church.
    It would be easy to take what I'm writing here and try to make it about licentiousness, but the simple truth is that Christ died to set us free, and in receiving Him we make ourselves into His servants, not into servants of the law. You can't serve two masters. If Jesus lays a burden on you, then that burden is yours, not your neighbors, and you have no right to impose your burden upon your neighbor. "Who are you to judge another’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand." Romans 14:4
    The Lord knows the heart of men and not just in general terms, but He even knows our thoughts and the hidden intent of our heart, even when we don't know ourselves. The law is good and reveals God's good will, but the law is for the lawless and not for those who are led by the spirit of grace. The Spirit of our Lord does not lead us into lawless deeds, we manage to do that quite well on our own, so we are told, in the imperative, to be lead by the Spirit of God, and that in this there is no condemnation.
    Unfortunately, its much easier to follow the instructions of men, or use the scripture like some sort of checklist, that we may be satisfied with as sufficient for demonstrating our righteousness rather than walking continuously by faith, and in the same manner in which we were called.
    If you find yourself under the teaching of some person or organization that is unwilling to make a comprehensive statement of faith, then you can be sure that such a person or organization has an agenda that may not be your own. As Stewards of the gifts of God, we are obliged to be informed about the activities and organizations that we give our time or money to. If, as is often the case, the organization we are supporting is opposed to the gospel of salvation through faith in Jesus Christ and the atonement He provided, we may be held accountable by God for our participation in perpetuating a false gospel, and something held accursed at His return. This is no little thing. As babes in Christ we can be easily deceived and easily lead into things which have an appearance of righteousness but are not of the substance of faith. This is why teachers are held to a higher standard, not by men, but by God. This is also why we are called to read and to study the Word of God ourselves and to approve the things spoken or done by men, discerning good from evil. There is no such thing as instant spiritual maturity, but we are called to move toward it as the Lord leads and teaches us how to do so. This is often through the agency of men, but everything is weighed by the Spirit of Truth within us, and we need to learn to discern His voice and His will rather than simply put our trust in some person that we hold as more "spiritual" than ourselves.
    I applaud the efforts of those involved in providing a statement of faith for the forum, because disclosure of fundamental belief is a point of honesty, whether such fundamental belief is founded or unfounded. Honesty is a requirement of effective communication and the truth of the Word of God is the only foundation upon which a saving faith may be built. Amen. "So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." Romans 10:17
    (That's my two cents and then some.)
     
  16. firstthings1st.

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    I'am in somewhat of an agreement with : Howdy! I wanted to share that I've worked up an "official" Statement of Faith for Christianity Board, as we've had some members ask about it from time to time. While I certainly do not claim to have perfected a perfect document, I think it establishes some fundamental tenets to define Christianity as it is viewed by this website.Please note that I am not requiring that everyone agree to this statement to post here or anything of the sort. I know there will be bones of contention within the statement, and so be it. However, I do ask that you peruse it and share your thoughts with us. If anything appears unclear, let me know. I've attempted to land CB firmly within the Biblical middle ground on some hot-button issues.May God speak through Christianity Board, and may this Statement of Faith serve as a testament to God Almighty.


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    Christianity Board Statement of Faith There are certain undeniable tenets of the Christian faith which Christianity Board dutifully seeks to uphold. As such, the purpose of Christianity Board is the furtherance of the God’s Holy Word known as the Christian Bible. We have by no means created a list that covers Christianity in its entirety, but we stand upon the rock that Scripture is the universally available link to God for the individual, nation, and world.

    As such, it is our mission to provide an online environment where the Bible is the intense focus of study and where members are free to explore the treasury of knowledge. First and foremost, we believe in the God of the Bible (Exodus 3), that he is the Father, Creator, and Almightly Adonai (Lord). We believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit and that the three comprise the Godhead (
    Acts 17:29, Romans 1:20, & Colossians 2:8-9). We testify that Jesus is indeed the Son of God (John 3:16-18) sent forth in love for the salvation of whomsoever will believe (Romans 5:8).

    We hold that the Holy Spirit is the Great Comforter sent for work through all Christians (
    John 15:26 & Romans 8:26-27). We believe the Bible is the inspired and Holy Word of God (II Timothy 3:16 & II Peter 1:21), this includes all prophecy, parables, covenants, and history. Furthermore, this includes the entire Bible, both the Old and New Testaments (Matthew 5). We believe that Jesus the Christ is this Word made flesh which dwelt with God from the very beginning (John 1). We firmly and patiently await the return of Christ (I Thessalonians 3:13 & II Thessalonians 2:2) when he shall set foot upon the Mount of Olives and the water will go out from Jerusalem (Zechariah 14).

    He will occupy the throne of David (
    Isaiah 9:6-7 & Luke 1:32-33) and rule the earth for 1,000 years known as both the Lord’s Day and the Millennium (Zechariah 14:9, Revelation 20:4). We believe in salvation through Grace by faith as the gift of God alone and not by works (Ephesians 2:8-9). We also believe in an active faith where works are a manifestation of faith for Christians (James 2:26). Faith is judged by God Almighty and Him alone (I Corinthians 4:3-5), but we are to discern between good and evil and eschew evil (Hebrews 5:14). We hold that water baptism is a manifestation of faith ordained by God for all who believe (Matthew 3:13-15, Acts 2:37-39 & Romans 6:3-5). We also believe in the ordinance of communion as established by Jesus the Christ (Matthew 26:26-29 & I Corinthians 10:16). We hold true that prayer is a powerful tool for Christians (Matthew 6:10 & I John 5:14-15) to further the will of God; but, we must ask in faith and in the Name of Jesus Christ (John 15:16 & James 1:6-7). We must also forgive, in order to be forgiven (Matthew 6:14).

    We believe that God has chosen certain servants since before the katabole of the Earth to use as his tools (
    Deuteronomy 7:6; Psalm 105:6; Isaiah 44:1-2, Ephesians 1). Last but not least, we believe that salvation is a personal matter and ultimately part of a covenant with God and therefore not fit to be judged by any man, as God is the heart-knower (Psalm 44:21). We Christians are the salt of the Earth (Matthew 5:13). We must adorn the armour of God to fight the spiritual war against Satan and his forces (Ephesians 6:11-18).

    We hold that the Holy Spirit is the Great Comforter sent for work through all Christians (John 15:26 & Romans 8:26-27). We believe the Bible is the inspired and Holy Word of God (II Timothy 3:16 & II Peter 1:21), this includes all prophecy, parables, covenants, and history. Furthermore, this includes the entire Bible, both the Old and New Testaments (Matthew 5). We believe that Jesus the Christ is this Word made flesh which dwelt with God from the very beginning (John 1). We firmly and patiently await the return of Christ (I Thessalonians 3:13 & II Thessalonians 2:2) when he shall set foot upon the Mount of Olives and the water will go out from Jerusalem (Zechariah 14).

    He will occupy the throne of David (Isaiah 9:6-7 & Luke 1:32-33) and rule the earth for 1,000 years known as both the Lord’s Day and the Millennium (Zechariah 14:9, Revelation 20:4). We believe in salvation through Grace by faith as the gift of God alone and not by works (Ephesians 2:8-9). We also believe in an active faith where works are a manifestation of faith for Christians (James 2:26). Faith is judged by God Almighty and Him alone (I Corinthians 4:3-5), but we are to discern between good and evil and eschew evil (Hebrews 5:14). We hold that water baptism is a manifestation of faith ordained by God for all who believe (Matthew 3:13-15, Acts 2:37-39 & Romans 6:3-5). We also believe in the ordinance of communion as established by Jesus the Christ (Matthew 26:26-29 & I Corinthians 10:16). We hold true that prayer is a powerful tool for Christians (Matthew 6:10 & I John 5:14-15) to further the will of God; but, we must ask in faith and in the Name of Jesus Christ (John 15:16 & James 1:6-7). We must also forgive, in order to be forgiven (Matthew 6:14).

    We believe that God has chosen certain servants since before the katabole of the Earth to use as his tools (Deuteronomy 7:6; Psalm 105:6; Isaiah 44:1-2, Ephesians 1). Last but not least, we believe that salvation is a personal matter and ultimately part of a covenant with God and therefore not fit to be judged by any man, as God is the heart-knower (Psalm 44:21). We Christians are the salt of the Earth (Matthew 5:13). We must adorn the armour of God to fight the spiritual war against Satan and his forces (Ephesians 6:11-18).

    Love always. From Walter and Debbie, WA.
     
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    HammerStone Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    ATTENTION:
    This Statement of Faith (SoF) is superseded by the new Statement of Faith found here: http://www.christianityboard.com/topic/17009-statement-of-faith-christian-board-christian-forum/

    This is for archival purposes, only.
     
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