Christians who hate Israel

[Debp]

I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE ARABS ARE JEWS, JUST THAT THEY HAVE BEEN IN THAT LAND FOR MILLENIA, INDIGINOUS PEOPLE...HAVE YOU EVER LOOKED INTO THE HISTORY OF THE "NAKBA", OR THE ETHNIC CLEANSING OF PALASTINE IN 1948. WHOLE TOWNS AND VILLAGES WERE DESTROYED, MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN WERE TOSSED LIKE GARBAGE OUT OF THEIR HOMELAND. I NO LONGER BELIEVE THE MODERN CHURCHES AS THEY HAVE BEEN FED THE TALKING POINTS AND THE FEAR MONGERING OF ONLY ONE SIDED AND WE ARE TO JUST ACCEPT WHAT THEY SAY WITHOUT QUESTION. HOW CAN ANYONE EVEN FORM AN OPINION WITHOUT WEIGHING THE CLAIMS OF ALL SIDES?

@Jericho is very well informed on the Nakba. And also the many attacks on the Jews by the Arab Muslims. Jericho can you please give us some input? Thanks.

Also @Nancy do you know about the Armenian genocide committed by Arab Muslims? Many killed and women and children forced to convert to Islam.

Armenian genocide - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Debp]

it would be helpful for me if you posted your reply to my posts on the thread where we were discussing it.

This is the thread.

Somalis in MN...want Shari'a, think you should be killed for insulting Mohammad

so Israel brought the Chinese, Indians, Sri Lankans just after October 7th to work there? They replaced the Palestinian jobs? So now they are homeless? --300,000 foreigners brought into Israel by the government - who will likely never leave. I find that very interesting. more globalism. Don't...

www.christianityboard.com

@David in NJ

 

[TLHKAJ]

 

[TLHKAJ]

 

[Debp]

@Nancy This is only seven minutes long...the history of the Armenian Genocide. They were Christians, over a million killed. They were murdered by the Muslims. Others were attacked and women r_ped. Children put in orphanages and forced to convert to Islam.

 

[PS95]

Forgive the caps, only used them to differentiate between PS95 and my responses.

@PS95
"Ok and you surely were a Christian a year ago? So please try not to condemn others who think the same as you recently did. Make sense?!!..."

@Nancy - You wrote on this thread -- Somalis in MN...want Shari'a, think you should be killed for insulting Mohammad
that
"Christians"<- in derogatory quotes who support the trump admin all HATE the Palestinians.
when I asked why you would say that-
You replied with- the Palestinians are the indigenous people of Israel.

When I replied to that- you said-
you quoted the verse in Rev---- "those who say they are Jews but are not, they lie..."
Gee Nancy do you think my conclusion was surprising? Lets see---
" Christians" in derogatory quotes hate the Palestinians.. and they are the real indigenous Jews --and the Jews lie who say that they are Jews.
WHAT WOULD ANYONE CONCLUDE?

Then you said you had no time to post TO ME-- and never came back to reply to me.. I asked you to make a thread explaining what you mean and i would be interested.. you never replied.
but you post on this thread and go out of your way to make it unreadable? Sheesh.
You have a lot of nerve complaining about my conclusion. What on earth is your deal?

So what if many Jews today are Ashkenazi? How does that make the Palestinians - Jews.--.and the Jews in Israel now, LIARS who say they are Jews BUT LIE?
Jesus was not speaking to the Ashkenazi or to ole Netanyahu. lol
And then you say you do understand that a Jew is not about decent but inward? no you don't or you would not be talking about real Jews and fake Jews- REAL JEW is not decent..
What on earth ..
lol
Honestly- I have no interest in your opinions at this point. You are tossed to and fro too about much and full of hatred toward anyone who disagrees with you on voting.
I just posted this to show what a person could conclude from your own words.

ALL Christians should understand that these wars HAVE to come to PASS but the end is not yet. Instead you get you underwear all twisted and panic and tear others apart with hatred. It's shameful.

But Trump does eat babies after all, right? so ... there's that.

 

[Armour of God]

In response to the thread title, I don't hate Israel. I'm very apathetic towards them just like I am with most countries. I don't feel like I have to view them in a special kind of light or anything. To me their just another country

 

[Debp]

PEOPLE...HAVE YOU EVER LOOKED INTO THE HISTORY OF THE "NAKBA", OR THE ETHNIC CLEANSING OF PALASTINE IN 1948.

Nancy keep an open mind as you watch this video. It's only seven and a half minutes long.

The history of what really happened...btw, Jews were expelled from all of the surrounding Arab countries.

 

[Debp]

@Nancy Again please keep an open mind for this five minute video by Prager University.

The Arabs were offered their own State five different times...each time they rejected it. While Israel was willing to accept the two-State solution.

@Jericho

 

[Nancy]

@Nancy Again please keep an open mind for this five minute video by Prager University.

The Arabs were offered their own State five different times...each time they rejected it. While Israel was willing to accept the two-State solution.

@Jericho

That is only one side, how about you look at both sides and then make an informed decision? This is a 5 minute video, I have been looking into all of this for more than a year now, and what I found has made sense and is recorded actual history. There is a book by an Israeli historian and brings to light so much that has been kept in the dark. "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" by Ilan Pappe, who resides in Israel. Very informative.
And here is just one article that has another, more believable narrative: "
II: Ethnic Cleansing of Cities, Towns and Villages

"This second installment of our three-part series of Journal of Palestine Studies articles on the Nakba focuses on the ethnic cleansing of Palestinian cities, towns, and villages. One of the most pointed challenges faced by Palestinians has been acquiring the “permission to narrate” their own experience, as Edward Said so eloquently framed it. As Palestinians were forced out of their home en masse in 1948, Western media presented distorted accounts that largely ignored Zionist violence against civilian populations and instead resorted to deploying Orientalist tropes about aggressive Arab militias and unreasonable demands by Palestinians."

Even decades after 1948, the scholarly historiography of Israel-Palestine in the United States and Europe heavily favored Israel and its preferred narrative.

https://www.palestine-studies.org/en/node/1650102

 

[doctrox]

"I only know that I've read that Josephus wrote that the Arabs are Hagar/Ishmael's descendants..."

The problem is one of identity.

Anglo Saxon, Scandinavian and kindred people are true Israel.

Israel = Is + ra + el, which means children ruling with their father - a definition not to be found in a Jew-ified concordance.

Strong's #2453 was changed to "Jew" (most don't know Strong was an unbeliever) . In John 8:33, those Judeans are not Israelites. Jesus was not a Jew; Jesus was a Galilean or Nazarene. [John 8:33 - They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?]

Churches that teach the Jews are Israel are teaching satanism. Christianity and Judaism are irreconcilable opposites, enemies of each other, ppl today are completely deluded. About 90% of those who call themselves Jews are Ashkenazi Khazar Jews from Khazaria (called Ukraine today).

Those who call themselves Jews are not Israelites and never will be God's chosen people. It turns out the Ashkenazi Jews are not descendents of Ashkenaz. Gen. 10:3 shows that he had two other brothers (his brother Togarmah is actually the descendents of what we call 90% of the Jews today). They are not in the line of Jacob therefore are not Israelites.

So the bible isn't about the Jews; it's about the Israelites. Those that call themselves Jews know this and are doing everything they can in their power to destroy true Israel with wars, fake pandemics, race mixing, perversions, drugs, degradation of the education system, a communist indoctrination system, and the list goes on and on. The teachings of the Talmud are perverse.

As Christians, we've been in a war ever since the crucifixion. This is a war for survival; Satan's children will rule or God's children will rule. There is no in-between. It's not just God's people Israel they wish to subjugate or destroy, but all goyim/non-Jews, including blacks, browns, yellows, all other ppl's of our world.

 

[Luther7]

Antisemitism has been on the rise more than ever. NYS just voted their 1st Muslim mayor and was only a few minutes ago talking with a Christian in my area and, he reminded me of a town in I think Michigan that is run by Muslims and have Sharia Law in place??! Am I wrong to think it is not a very Christian thing to lift up Muslims and bash Jews.
Can anyone please explain to me why this is? I was talking to (texting) a Christian friend in San Diego who replied to my text that our home state just voted in a Muslim with "better than a jew"!

PLEASE someone tell me why this is?

Thank you!

I don't know if I already answered this post but you may be mistaking critical thinking as hate. It seems as if you don't know what the nature of judaism truly is, and not what we've been indoctrinated to believe.

Many Christians such as myself only have disdain towards what the religion teaches, not the individuals. There are many jews that forsake their religion because they are just as appalled as we might be. And some of them become Christians as well.

Many Christians disapprove of what jews in powerful positions do with their influence (putting it mildly). When I see as an absolute truth that 20,000 Palestinian children have been murdered since " October 7th", there is no justification as to why the government of Israel would allow this.
War means actual combat. The children aren't in combat with the IDF. They do not have to wipe out an entire civilization of innocent people to get to " Hamas". No other nation in the world would get away with this.

 

[Luther7]

The problem is one of identity.

Anglo Saxon, Scandinavian and kindred people are true Israel.

Israel = Is + ra + el, which means children ruling with their father - a definition not to be found in a Jew-ified concordance.

Strong's #2453 was changed to "Jew." In John 8:33, those Judeans are not Israelites. Jesus was not a Jew; Jesus was a Galilean or Nazarene. [John 8:33 - They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?]

Churches that teach the Jews are Israel are teaching satanism. Christianity and Judaism are irreconcilable opposites, enemies of each other, ppl today are completely deluded. About 90% of those who call themselves Jews are Ashkenazi Khazar Jews from Khazaria (called Ukraine today).

Those who call themselves Jews are not Israelites and never will be God's chosen people. It turns out the Ashkenazi Jews are not descendents of Ashkenaz. Gen. 10:3 shows that he had two other brothers (his brother Togarmah is actually the descendents of what we call 90% of the Jews today). They are not in the line of Jacob therefore are not Israelites.

So the bible isn't about the Jews; it's about the Israelites. Those that call themselves Jews know this and are doing everything they can in their power to destroy true Israel with wars, fake pandemics, race mixing, perversions, drugs, degradation of the education system, a communist indoctrination system, and the list goes on and on. The teachings of the Talmud are perverse.

As Christians, we've been in a war ever since the crucifixion. This is a war for survival; Satan's children will rule or God's children will rule. There is no in-between. It's not just God's people Israel they wish to subjugate or destroy, but all goyim/non-Jews, including blacks, browns, yellows, all other ppl's of our world.

AMEN 1000%
You know your facts.
All the families of the earth being blessed (Genesis 12:3) are not the fake jews of today, but rather the lost 10 tribes of Israel scattered into the four winds, assimilated with the nations, to be gathered at the glorious day of Jesus Christ. That's how " all the families of the earth" will be blessed. That is how I understand it.

 

[Luther7]

What about those who hate Christians while supporting a secular state of Israel, where the population is either atheists or Talmudic Jews who teach that Jesus is tormented in hell for his sorcery and bastardy (Sanhedrin 43a, 107b, Babylonian Talmud), rejecting Him as Messiah?
Is it Christian to back a state where 99.7% deny Christ (CBS/Pew 2025) and push a Third Temple that blasphemes His sacrifice (Hebrews 10:10–14), while demonizing other Christians who don’t swallow Christian Zionism or dispensationalism hook, line, and sinker?

Why support a state with Talmudic blasphemies (Sanhedrin 43a: Jesus executed for sorcery; 107b: Mary’s adultery) but condemn fellow believers for questioning it?

Exactly. All Christians need to understand that we are not of the same God....we are not a Judeo- Christian society. We are sojourners living in a Judeo- masonic society.

And we know Freemasonry is judaism for non-jews. And we know you cannot get in any position of influence or power unless you belong to one of those institutions.

 

[Debp]

That is only one side, how about you look at both sides and then make an informed decision?

I have looked at both sides. And the Arab Muslims have been continuously attacking the Jews.

The Palestinians were offered their own State five different times!!! Each time rejecting that independent State. They were even offered more land than Israel and rejected it. The Jews took the land and made it blossom.

The Palestinians don't want to share the land which the Jews are willing to do. The Palestinians want all of the land... that's what from the river to the sea refers to. It means the total eradication of the Jews... that's in the Hamas charter.

@Jericho

 

[Debp]

Propaganda videos from Gaza... several different incidents.

 

[markalan]

The history of what really happened...btw, Jews were expelled from all of the surrounding Arab countries.

That video gives a very good understanding of what "nakba" really means ... it was a catastrophe for the Arabs that the Jewish people were able to defeat five armies against overwhelming odds ... those with spiritual insight will recognize God's hand in restoring Israel.

 

[quietthinker]

That video gives a very good understanding of what "nakba" really means ... it was a catastrophe for the Arabs that the Jewish people were able to defeat five armies against overwhelming odds ... those with spiritual insight will recognize God's hand in restoring Israel.

Is it really believed that as believers in Jesus God uses the methods of the devil, ie destruction to forward his purposes?
If the conclusion is drawn in the affirmative, the Jesus that has been understood is not the resurrected Jesus.

 

[markalan]

Is it really believed that as believers in Jesus God uses the methods of the devil, ie destruction to forward his purposes?
If the conclusion is drawn in the affirmative, the Jesus that has been understood is not the resurrected Jesus.

What does the Bible say?

For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval,for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. (Romans 13:3-4)

 

[quietthinker]

What does the Bible say?

For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval,for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. (Romans 13:3-4)

You either settle for a God who knows all our sins and condemns you for them or you live in the liberty of his Grace and Truth. God does not have favourites. He gives life and breath, sunshine and rain to all.

What you share with those around you will be your judge.